Rayon Wick - Better Flow, Flavor, Longevity, and Nic Hit!! - Pt.2

[Kingboomer]

OK I figured I'd post this here. I'm using my Serpent exclusively, and I can say without a doubt it's the best atty I've ever owned (not saying much, I only have 3 ). Now here's how I wick it with rayon: I do the Scottish roll thing to get the fibers even and snug, wick as per normal, then I deviate a bit. I'll cut the wick just past the deck, fluff/pancake, then pinch the ends so it looks like a bowtie. I'll place the wicks in the channels, then hack off whatever sticks up (those of you who have an aqua v2 recognize this method). I'll then wet the wicks really well, push the edges into the channel, pull up the tails a bit and trim the ends so when I place the wicks back there's a small gap between the bottom and the end of the wick. I HAVE HAD ABSOLUTELY NO LEAKS/WEEPING DOING THIS!!! Not only that, the wick keeps up beautifully! Folks if you own a Serpent you really should give this a shot! Much better than the standard way IMHO.


-Kingboomer

 

[Kingboomer]

Here's some crappy pics:

 

[Uncletattoowhat]

Well, looks like I have to find some Tidi then. I have an entire bag of DM that's just laying here that I'm not fond of because of how the fibers run. Too much work spreading and straightening and rolling for me compared to Graham.

 

[JeremyR]

Hi all, sorry to jump in the middle of a thread, but Great opening posts. I will go back and read the thread for more details.

I just wanted to say from reading what I did, I just back from Sally's with a box of my first ever wicking material, which just happens to be Rayon. I don't think I like the taste of cotton in the pre-made factory coils.

I figured if I start learning to wick and wire with it, I wont have to adjust what I learn.

Thanks again great thread.

Any time swampus, your always welcome to post. I think your starting on the right foot.

 

[JeremyR]

Well, looks like I have to find some Tidi then. I have an entire bag of DM that's just laying here that I'm not fond of because of how the fibers run. Too much work spreading and straightening and rolling for me compared to Graham.

DM and tidi should be about the same, they are both large balls.. Not as easy as Sally's but quality is better.. DM is my go to right now it's seems.

 

[Uncletattoowhat]

DM and tidi should be about the same, they are both large balls.. Not as easy as Sally's but quality is better.. DM is my go to, but another option may be around the corner...

Oh really? Well, I'll just wait for this "other option" lol. If it's similar and/or easier to use than Sally's, I'll buy into it.

 

[awsum140]

DM and tidi should be about the same, they are both large balls.. Not as easy as Sally's but quality is better.. DM is my go to, but another option may be around the corner...

You're teasing all of us Rayonoti mercilessly.

 

[Bigbob2322]

Tell us now! Or give us a hint.

 

[xpen]

Suspense is growing..

 

[Sloth Tonight]

Been through close to 10ml on my first rayon wick, vaping great. Decided to wick another atty...

In case nobody caught Rossum's drift earlier, a) he is a god among sloths and b) this is Tidi rayon. I may be a born natural

 

[CbrVapeRR]

I'm sure it will be worth the wait

 

[jambi]

Been following this thread for awhile. Always wanted to try rayon, but it wasn't a priority getting my hands on some, till I was in a strip mall with a Sally Beauty Supply the other day. Walked in there and bought a lifetime supply of the stuff in a huge box (only size they had).

Gotta say it works great in my Griffin and Aromamiser, but I've yet to perfect it with my RDAs. Both the ones I've tried leak like the dickens when wicked with rayon. It's like the rayon just lets the liquid run all over the place, though other than major leaking it seemed to perform well. I'm sure I'll figure it out if I bother to screw around with it long enough, but for now I'm still using good old Japanese organic in my drippers.

 

[xpen]

Rayon 'transports' liquid instead of absorbing it (like cotton), so possibly you're using RDAs with a shallow well.
I almost only use drippers (origen, derringer, veritas) and the occasional leak only happens when absent mindedly I pour too much eliquid in there..
What RDAs are causing the problem for you?

 

[sig-cmt]

...but another option may be around the corner.

Has anyone tried Carolina Absorbent Cotton? They produce and sell rayon in coils...

 

[f1vefour]

Hass anyone tried Carolina Absorbent Cotton? They produce and sell rayon in coils...

It's difficult for an individual to get this type, unless you want to purchase 22+ lbs of rayon.

 

[Sloth Tonight]

Day 2 with my first 2 rayon wicks. One has been through 10-12ml the other about 5. Here are my observations so far. The one that's been through about 5ml, if that was cotton, it'd be gunking by now - fairly badly. However not even my coils have darkened really, there are a few dark specs on the wick at the edge of the coil but that's it. The coil would be fairly crusted if this was cotton and the wick would be very dark. It's a tobacco juice that wreaks havoc but the rayon is holding up incredibly well. I'd normally rewick at the 8ml mark but clearly the rayon will go at least double that.

The other isn't particularly a coil gunker but it is definitely cleaner after 10ml than it would be with cotton. No gunk whatsoever - none.

So in my experience with my first 2 wicks, you freaks are correct about 1) nic hit 2) longevity 3) flavor. Consider me a convert, a Rayonati Sloth or whatever you call yourselves

This morning both are spitting more than yesterday but seem to be simmering down the more I use them. They're not violent spits like I get with overwicking cotton but annoying nonetheless. But honestly if it doesn't get worse, it's fine. And I imagine as I get experience wicking with rayon, I'll be able to hone that in a bit.

I think I'll still use KGD for testing flavors. I diy and do a ton of flavor testing. For me KGD takes literally 2 seconds, and if all I'm doing is "mmhmm, that tastes good" or "yuck, never again," that'll probably be my go-to wick. For setups I intend to vape, it's rayon baby - all you.

Thanks to all for the heavenly information. That old thread's over 700 pages. I'll get through it in oh maybe a month

oh PS I do think I'm a born natural and this is in fact easier to get right than cotton. We'll see if I eat my words as I try more than 2 measily wicks but dayyum that's easy to get a solid vape IMO (thanks to the detailed info particularly in the OP)

 

[PaulBHC]

If I get spitting I kick up the watts by .5 until it stops. Sometimes it is temporary and I kick it back down.

In general, you need to up the watts with rayon because it flows more juice.

 

[Sloth Tonight]

I've heard that but I don't use regulated mods and don't want to build lower. I like the power right where it's at (.75ish ohms) I used to like a lot more power but those days have passed me by.

BTW Paul your avatar makes me smile everytime.

 

[jambi]

Rayon 'transports' liquid instead of absorbing it (like cotton), so possibly you're using RDAs with a shallow well.
I almost only use drippers (origen, derringer, veritas) and the occasional leak only happens when absent mindedly I pour too much eliquid in there..
What RDAs are causing the problem for you?

The really problematic one is an atty 3. It has a decent juice well, but the air slots are really low. If I could close off the bottom slot only that would solve the problem, but of course it's the top slot that has to close first. Unfortunate design element. It's leaked on me many a time with cotton as well, but with rayon it hemorrhages liquid out of those bottom slots at the slightest tilt. Thing is that it's not flooded, it vapes like it should even while it's leaking. This RDA is probably a lost cause, but that's fine, I never liked it much anyway.

The other is a Velocity clone. Pretty much figured that one out last night. I had the wicks trimmed to where they were just barely touching the deck as per advice in this thread, and it seeped from the bottom air slots when vape-tilted. So I rewicked it like I would with cotton, leaving long tails and stuffing them down into the well. It hasn't leaked yet, but now it's popping like a racehorse on ....... I will figure it out, but I might actually prefer cotton in this RDA.

I definitely prefer rayon in my tanks though. Rayon wicks seem to live forever in them.

 

[Kingboomer]

@emotionalstabilitysloth I DIY as well, and I use rayon for tasting my flavors as well. Trick I use is I'll taste a flavor enough to know weather or not I like it, then drip some straight VG to clear the wick, vape, then on to the next flavor. Just thought I'd throw that out there


-Kingboomer