Rayon Wick - Better Flow, Flavor, Longevity, and Nic Hit!! - Pt.2

[Sloth Tonight]

Hey Jeremy, I just started doing spaced coils about a week ago or so. The reason I started was to try to reduce gunk for a particular tobacco juice but I instantly realized I like them better, can't pinpoint why, seems like they just hit a little nicer. Anyway, what do you find to be the difference in wide spaced vs small spaced? I haven't done enough of either to really know yet. I basically am just aiming to have as little leg length as possible (virtually none with this style build anyway), so since I went with less wraps, I made the spaces bigger.

 

[tchavei]

I just rewicked my atty after a month of neglecting it. I should have taken a pic but the wick was like always... Snow white and only the coil had carbon deposits on it.

I made a new coil (Ti gr1, 2.5mm id, 26awg, 8 turns came out at 0.34) and wicked it with DM rayon. I love it so much...

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[Hiramkunz]

Would these be them

TIDI Cotton Balls, Large, 1000/Bag

 

[awsum140]

Those seem to be cotton and not rayon, Hiram.

 

[JeremyR]

Would these be them

TIDI Cotton Balls, Large, 1000/Bag

If you have DM your pretty well set. Tidi has a rayon version.

 

[JeremyR]

Hey Jeremy, I just started doing spaced coils about a week ago or so. The reason I started was to try to reduce gunk for a particular tobacco juice but I instantly realized I like them better, can't pinpoint why, seems like they just hit a little nicer. Anyway, what do you find to be the difference in wide spaced vs small spaced? I haven't done enough of either to really know yet. I basically am just aiming to have as little leg length as possible (virtually none with this style build anyway), so since I went with less wraps, I made the spaces bigger.

Oh it looks fine.

I switched to space a long time ago. And prefer it as well. The more space is just less coils to vaporize in the given space. It just depends on many factors of juice, atty, air flow, power, and your preference. More space probably reduces gunking further, eventually you find a point that there's just not enough coils for vapor density your looking for. I prefer to be around 7-9 wraps regardless, but that's me. If your stuck with a particular gauge all you can do it reduce the diameter to get a few more wraps.

You can balance the diameter to give the specific vape quality your looking for. If your using too big of a coil at not enough power it will constantly be over saturated. Reducing diameter helps this.

What you have looks good and just fine. Vape it out and see how it does. If it's been good go with it... There is no particular right or wrong way, it's all your perception.... If you need a little more, reduce the diameter for another wrap. If it was regulated (vw) you could just add a wrap or two at same diameter and turn up the power, but that's not in your bag of tricks right now.

 

[JeremyR]

Playing with the bachelor. Trying to find the coil for it. Was going to go 28g stainless but man that stuff kinda drives me nuts. Too flimsy and springy, torching it slightly make it even weaker. Option is to twist but I think then I'd have a little more heat retention than I want, but will try it next time. Or twist it with 32 kanthal. The bachelor came with a gigantic 4 or 5mm 22g coil. That took a few vapes just to get it going and then sizzled - for ever after the vape.

I went 26g, 3mm(2.5 is what I'm used to) I will need more spacing or a smaller coil to span the deck with less wire... cause I'm up at 1.3 ohms right now and the evic 60w maxes out at 7.99v and 47.7w at that ohm! I'm vaping it at the max 8v and there's plenty of air flow and juice flow. The wick slots are slightly bigger than 3mm. 50w single coil with this tank no problem it seems.

I did move the coil up a little to the higher position but still just the first day with it.

 

[JeremyR]

OK, had to trim a little more off the top, because the wick was touching the chimney. A no no, condensate goes back to the wick more and darkens it. You want to have a small gap between the chamber was and wick. I will probably lower the coil a tad next time if it's that high

You can see the darkening on the bits sticking up. They were touching the chimney, I cut those nubs off. It's running clear now.

Bachelor-

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It's nice you can pull the tank and it becomes a sealed unit. Check the coil with no liquid loss or juicy fingers.

 

[Sloth Tonight]

You can balance the diameter to give the specific vape quality your looking for. If your using too big of a coil at not enough power it will constantly be over saturated. Reducing diameter helps this.

That makes so much sense. I will experiment...been hesitating for less than 2.5mm with this style build. Dunno why, I guess a small coil looks kinda funny in the middle of that big deck. But heck great point to play around with, thanks man!

 

[JeremyR]

It will be smaller, but wider. More spread of heat on the wick. You really only need the bigger diameter coils for higher power or other wicking materials, so there is more juice in the coil, for one reason.

FYI -
I've been using a 2.4-2.5mm coils for a long, long, time in the FEV, running that at 40+ watts. Your only about 25w, so a 2mm coil should be no issue for you, or even smaller.

 

[sig-cmt]

However tidi is only available by the case load.

TIDI is available for purchase by the bag or by the case (two bags per case).

...a distributor [for Carolina Absorbent Cotton] has offered samples of all four sizes [9, 12, 16, or 20 grams...]...

Shipment notification was received from the distributor this afternoon (samples will be shipped tomorrow). Offhand, Carolina Absorbent Cotton coils may end up being the preferred choice of rayon for the vaping community as it combines a pharmaceutical grade pedigree with the simplicity of a coil format with high public availability through normal distributorship channels.

 

[kross8]

finally got my fastech order today.. now i have to retest my rayon wick skills on a Mutation and a Freakshow.. (apparently i ordered some useless stuff too lol,,, no biggy,, i will try my hand at modifying some with a drill bit and see where it takes me) still waiting on the phantus mech

the Freakshow arrived defected. the center post has a tiny hole to put the coil leg then you put a screw in the top of the leg to compress it,, but neither side post has a leg hole.. yes both will hold a top screw.

i have a choice,,, either change the screws to be the type with a larger head to 'grab the coil from the top of the post,, or drill a hole through the leg like the center post. or try to return it to fasttech...

or find out if i am way off base and the unit is correct and i am looking at it wrong........
looks like the mutation is also defective...........looks like some sleaze ball company dumped all of their rejects on fasttech........so i wont be buying much from them in the future.
geeezzz!=====pretty long wait with a asian holiday to just get garbage.

ok,, weird,, each came with a set of screws,,,,,so i went about installed the screws....i did not notice that each rda had screws inserted all the way into the shaft posts all the way down.....i finally caught a glimpse and figured it out...(feeling stupid,, but also wondering if that was normal since i dont remember anyone mentioning it before.) long story short,, its like a new beginning on setting up.........moving forward to coil and wicking finally.

 

[f1vefour]

Offhand, Carolina Absorbent Cotton coils may end up being the preferred choice of rayon for the vaping community as it combines a pharmaceutical grade pedigree with the simplicity of a coil format with high public availability through normal distributorship channels.

What makes you think CAC will be better than any other rayon? You sound like a salesman.

 

[Sloth Tonight]

That tharr is a 26g 2mm 7 wrap .7ohm smack-dabby central Z coil extravaganza.

Wicked with CCR. First run with CC.

So far vaping like a champ. Poppin like a good little coal but not in my mouth

Seems like a little better hit than that other coal...think this diameter thing maybe something worth exploring for sure. Different juice tho hard to evaluate properly.

Love the form of the CCr. Love the medical grade stamp of the Tidi balls.

Love rayon. Love it. Love.

 

[Sloth Tonight]

BTW I apologize if it seems like I've been bombarding the thread lately. I feel like I have been. To be honest I'm just so excited. The rayon is like a whole other level I never knew was there. Juice has never tasted this good I cannot even believe it's my diy. The longevity and nic hit have me singing. This stuff is unreal. I am so appreciative to all of you.

And to think that at this very moment I am set on wicking material for life...ha ha

 

[f1vefour]

BTW I apologize if it seems like I've been bombarding the thread lately. I feel like I have been. To be honest I'm just so excited. The rayon is like a whole other level I never knew was there. Juice has never tasted this good I cannot even believe it's my diy. The longevity and nic hit have me singing. This stuff is unreal. I am so appreciative to all of you.

And to think that at this very moment I am set on wicking material for life...ha ha

It's great to see a new user document their experiences, keep it up.

 

[sig-cmt]

What makes you think CAC will be better than any other rayon? You sound like a salesman.

Definitely not a salesman. Though I do expect the product to be in line with the pharmaceutical grade offerings from TIDI/Delasco/Fabco, but with the added benefit of being available in coil form with a choice of weights (diameters) to choose from to minimize waste when wicking. For now, this is just another product I happened to come across while searching for alternatives to rayon balls.

 

[JeremyR]

BTW I apologize if it seems like I've been bombarding the thread lately. I feel like I have been. To be honest I'm just so excited. The rayon is like a whole other level I never knew was there. Juice has never tasted this good I cannot even believe it's my diy. The longevity and nic hit have me singing. This stuff is unreal. I am so appreciative to all of you.

And to think that at this very moment I am set on wicking material for life...ha ha

Keep it coming my friend!

We've all been there. and we're still here singing it's praises. We need new users to re-energize the thread sometimes.
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[kross8]

BTW I apologize if it seems like I've been bombarding the thread lately. I feel like I have been. To be honest I'm just so excited. The rayon is like a whole other level I never knew was there. Juice has never tasted this good I cannot even believe it's my diy. The longevity and nic hit have me singing. This stuff is unreal. I am so appreciative to all of you.

And to think that at this very moment I am set on wicking material for life...ha ha

oh dont apoligize! between you, jeremy and all of the other posters i am staying with this,, and today is a very frustrating day for me............you guys are inspiring me........thanks for sharing all that you do!

 

[DavidAmonettNashville]

Can I find rayon suitable to vape with anywhere locally in a big city or is it mail order primarily?