RTAs for a restricted lung hit

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Just got the elevate going myself and I agree with everything you just said. It's an awesome rta :thumb:

Can't recommend the doggy enough. Try one of the 2k18 top fillers or the sjmy 2k16 bottom fill version. They are all with a bigger airflow hole.

since I don't have a doggy rta I'm wondering how the flavor on the elevate compares to something I have..

so, how does the elevate compare in the flavor department to the kayfun 4 or 5? To the original serpent mini? To the original Hastur? or to the Siren?
 

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    since I don't have a doggy RTA I'm wondering how the flavor on the elevate compares to something I have..

    so, how does the elevate compare in the flavor department to the Kayfun 4 or 5? To the original serpent mini? To the original Hastur? or to the Siren?

    I've only got the original serpent mini in your list - to me the elevate is as good as or maybe a touch better. It's a different type of vape
     

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    I've only got the original serpent mini in your list - to me the elevate is as good as or maybe a touch better. It's a different type of vape

    But flavor is spot on if not better?

    it's flavor that concerns me since I'm into flavor chasing..
     

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    Restricting airflow doesn't work most of the time, and I'm not the only one. I have the original Goon and no, doesn't work.
    It all simply depends on how you want to define "restrictive". The restrictiveness that I was referring to in my previous reply can hardly be felt if you're taking really slow drags, but then, the OP didn't specify anything about taking really slow drags, and, the Reload RTA does meet the OP's only other criterium of "air holes at least 2.3mm in diameter" so not sure what you must be getting at here. IMO it's still the best RTA of them all. For this reason alone, it's the only RTA that currently I own and use. The rest of what I use are all typical high end RDAs of various types and sizes, but I never put the airflow wide open on any atomizer I own (usually I have them at about 2/3 of the way open), excepting only on the Reload RTA so I stand by my conclusion that the amount of restrictiveness of the Reload RTA is way more than reasonable enough.
     

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    It all simply depends on how you want to define "restrictive". The restrictiveness that I was referring to in my previous reply can hardly be felt if you're taking really slow drags, but then, the OP didn't specify anything about taking really slow drags, and, the Reload RTA does meet the OP's only other criterium of "air holes at least 2.3mm in diameter" so not sure what you must be getting at here. IMO it's still the best RTA of them all. For this reason alone, it's the only RTA that currently I own and use. The rest of what I use are all typical high end RDAs of various types and sizes, but I never put the airflow wide open on any atomizer I own (usually I have them at about 2/3 of the way open), excepting only on the Reload RTA so I stand by my conclusion that the amount of restrictiveness of the Reload RTA is way more than reasonable enough.
    Air pressure is something to be taken very seriously on any tank. If you close down the air intake even by 2/3 air pressure changes and everything suffers. Flavor and vapor. The reload is one of those tanks. If you like it, great, but, air pressure is completely different. Leave that to cloud chuckers, there are far better things for flavor than the Reload nowadays.
     

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    since I don't have a doggy RTA I'm wondering how the flavor on the elevate compares to something I have..

    so, how does the elevate compare in the flavor department to the Kayfun 4 or 5? To the original serpent mini? To the original Hastur? or to the Siren?
    I like it more than the siren 2. I’m in it for the flavor, not clouds
     

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    Same here. The flavor that the Reload RTA can produce is worth jumping up and down about, and so I'm jumping up and down about it. :D

    yes but its my understanding the reload has (2), 2.5mm air holes on its deck.(I could be wrong here but that is how I've read the specs on that)..

    5mm worth of air doesn't usually qualify as restricted lung... and that's just honest. When you have two 2.5mm airflow holes on the deck, you have effectively doubled your air intake, meaning you now have 5mm of air intake on the deck..

    whereas what is normally considered restricted lung max's out, most usually, at 3mm worth of airflow..(3.5 is really pushing it) 5mm puts it smack in the middle of being a DL tank.. whether that is restrictive to some or no..

    it does sound like a nice tank though..
     

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    yes but its my understanding the reload has (2), 2.5mm air holes on its deck.(I could be wrong here but that is how I've read the specs on that)..

    5mm worth of air doesn't usually qualify as restricted lung... and that's just honest. When you have two 2.5mm airflow holes on the deck, you have effectively doubled your air intake, meaning you now have 5mm of air intake on the deck..

    whereas what is normally considered restricted lung max's out, most usually, at 3mm worth of airflow..(3.5 is really pushing it) 5mm puts it smack in the middle of being a DL tank.. whether that is restrictive to some or no..

    it does sound like a nice tank though..
    Yes, but it is my understanding the OP did not mention anything about the number of air holes. My bad... I didn't know this thread was for people with only one lung. And, again, air intake and restrictiveness, although related of course, are two entirely different things, as there's low intake restrictiveness and there's high intake restrictiveness. Both types are restrictiveness. But in these kinds of discussions there's always someone who wants to just make all the simplest of the simple things as confusing as terribly possible. :p
     

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    Yes, but it is my understanding the OP did not mention anything about the number of air holes. My bad... I didn't know this thread was for people with only one lung.

    And, again, air intake and restrictiveness, although related of course, are two entirely different things, as there's low intake restrictiveness and there's high intake restrictiveness. Both types are restrictiveness. But in these kinds of discussions there's always someone who wants to just make all the simplest of the simple things as confusing as terribly possible. :p

    Restricted Lung inhalation atomizers as a whole have a definition that is between the definition for MTL inhalation atomizers and DL inhalation atomizers.

    that definition is defined in amount of airflow that is somewhere between the MTL and the DL.

    there are definite parameters for this definition (which I gave in my previous post), and the OP stated clearly she was interested in the upper parameters of the definition and not the lower, but this doesn't mean she was asking for devices that were well beyond the defining parameters of RL.

    It's only complicated by the fact people want specific features, and not generalities when vaping, most usually. If generalities worked for us I'd be happy with a clearo and so would you

    as I said, I'm sure the reload is a very good tank. It's awesome to talk with you! :)

    as for my one lung.. lol. My son thinks so too.. I think his are steel traps... hahaha to each his own.
     
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    I like it more than the siren 2. I’m in it for the flavor, not clouds
    That's one thing that bugs me. I love the SMM for the thick, dense clouds. I'm somewhat flavor blind, I taste but not the subtle things. So flavor is nice but not top priority.
     

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    Restricted Lung inhalation atomizers as a whole have a definition that is between the definition for MTL inhalation atomizers and DL inhalation atomizers.

    that definition is defined in amount of airflow that is somewhere between the MTL and the DL.

    there are definite parameters for this definition (which I gave in my previous post), and the OP stated clearly she was interested in the upper parameters of the definition and not the lower, but this doesn't mean she was asking for devices that were well beyond the defining parameters of RL.

    It's only complicated by the fact people want specific features, and not generalities when vaping, most usually. If generalities worked for us I'd be happy with a clearo and so would you

    as I said, I'm sure the reload is a very good tank. It's awesome to talk with you! :)

    as for my one lung.. lol. My son thinks so too.. I think his are steel traps... hahaha to each his own.
    Speaking of generalities, I'm an atheist in the general sense (despite I do own two different versions of the Hammer Of God "Four Horsemen" and a Deathwish Modz t-shirt that has upside down crosses on it) so I don't believe the assertion that the airflow parameters for a restricted lung hit are set in stone by some kind of spiritual vape entity. :D
     

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    Speaking of generalities, I'm an atheist in the general sense (despite I do own two different versions of the Hammer Of God "Four Horsemen" and a Deathwish Modz t-shirt that has upside down crosses on it) so I don't believe the assertion that the airflow parameters for a restricted lung hit are set in stone by some kind of spiritual vape entity. :D

    Well, speaking of generalities that don't work - I'm a Christian (despite having various mods and tanks) but it's a very specific kind with a very narrow definition.. I believe in specifics. I'm not an oops, in general kind of person.

    And - I believe those airflow parameters were chiseled in stone long long ago...

    hahaha


    Anyway, this has likely gone off topic... so I'll leave you to it! It's been fun!
     
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    Well, speaking of generalities that don't work - I'm a Christian (despite having various mods and tanks) but it's a very specific kind with a very narrow definition.. I believe in specifics. I'm not an oops, in general kind of person.

    And - I believe those airflow parameters were chiseled in stone long long ago...

    hahaha


    Anyway, this has likely gone off topic... so I'll leave you to it! It's been fun!
    Here's what the correct definition of "airy vs restricted" looks like, specifically in this post:
    I am mouth to lung but.......
     

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    The Prime is too tight for RL..

    It's too tight for relaxed MTL. And has a small building deck. *sigh*

    I have a Kayfun 5, it's great in RL, but they went backwards with the Prime because their MTL customers complained about the version 5 being too airy.

    And why oh why can't they make simple airflow reducers for us in the middle (2, 2.2, 2.4 mm or so)???? The air intake hole on K5 is 3.2 mm, and the reducers are 1.2, 1.4 and 1.6. :facepalm: Hey, SvoeMesto, I'm not going to pay 200 bucks for a tank that needs (inadequate) modifications. People are stuffing ss mesh and all kinds of coils into that tube to reduce the diameter. :evil:
     
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    Oh s#*t! :facepalm: Thx for the heads up on the Prime. Maybe I can modify it. We'll see.

    Ummm.... It's easier to reduce airflow than to increase it. Short of drilling a larger hole. And the Prime is a true MTL, closer to KFL. Did you get an authentic? I hope not...
     

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    Well, to me it looks like just too much. Dual massive coil, dual air intake, increased juice consumption and battery drain. I'm sure it's a great atty, just not my style.

    Here's what the correct definition of "airy vs restricted" looks like, specifically in this post:
    I am mouth to lung but.......

    So many definitions, opinions, vaping styles. I know what I like, I can't really define it. I've tried several DL tanks (I never bought one, I won them in various contests I entered because I was curious), including one of the baby Smoks (with a quad coil), OBS nano, and a Vaporesso. I tried them all, but I MTL-ed with all of them because I just can't and won't DL (my lungs have suffered enough). They are all different and totally vapeable, just not my thing. Maybe I'm just stuck on the Kayfun design--strong blast of air from the bottom directed at the center of the coil.
     

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    Well, to me it looks like just too much. Dual massive coil, dual air intake, increased juice consumption and battery drain. I'm sure it's a great atty, just not my style.



    So many definitions, opinions, vaping styles. I know what I like, I can't really define it. I've tried several DL tanks (I never bought one, I won them in various contests I entered because I was curious), including one of the baby Smoks (with a quad coil), OBS nano, and a Vaporesso. I tried them all, but I MTL-ed with all of them because I just can't and won't DL (my lungs have suffered enough). They are all different and totally vapeable, just not my thing. Maybe I'm just stuck on the Kayfun design--strong blast of air from the bottom directed at the center of the coil.
    One day, we'll actually get definitive pressure ratings in the specs from mfgs, instead of having to have these discussions and do mental extrapolation from: below port intake/af hole dia/chimney/DT size, or trial and error. Then we can spend more time arguing about "best mod ever," "is Juul evil," "clone vs. authentic," and stuff like that. :)

    I mean, it's not like it's rocket surgery or brain science to measure pressure. You listening, Phil? Anyone who reviews?
     

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    One day, we'll actually get definitive pressure ratings in the specs from mfgs, instead of having to have these discussions and do mental extrapolation from: below port intake/af hole dia/chimney/DT size, or trial and error. Then we can spend more time arguing about "best mod ever," "is Juul evil," "clone vs. authentic," and stuff like that. :)

    I mean, it's not like it's rocket surgery or brain science to measure pressure. You listening, Phil? Anyone who reviews?

    Hahah. Hey, Brewdawg. I was googling Kayfun 5 specs last night and guess what came up in my search? Our conversation in Bronze's thread about air intake hole diameters. That made me smile. :wub:
     
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