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[TrollDragon]

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What a spectacularly clean mouse interior. Mine always looks like a hay barn! Or did you clean it first

Sorry that's not my pic, it's one I grabbed from a YT video (post updated). I imagine mine will be quite filthy inside as well.

 

[TrollDragon]

Very cool and nice job.
What mouse is that?
Would be good to know just in case I have the same mouse.
Thanks.

Not done yet, updated the post about the internals picture.

I have an old Steelseries Sensei Raw and 90% of the mice out there use Omron D2FC-F switches which are the authentic Chinese made ones. I went with the original Japanese version as the manufacturing quality is higher and there are a lot of reports of people getting a 5 or 10 pack of the Chinese versions only to find DOA's in the bag.

The ones I picked up have the levers that you can just pinch and remove as there were none of the standard ones available on Canadian Amazon.

These are the ones you most likely need.
https://www.amazon.com/Japan-Subminiature-Switch-Logitech-SteelSeries/dp/B00HZBR4UG

 

[ShowMeTwice]

Not done yet, updated the post about the internals picture.

I have an old Steelseries Sensei Raw and 90% of the mice out there use Omron D2FC-F switches which are the authentic Chinese made ones. I went with the original Japanese version as the manufacturing quality is higher and there are a lot of reports of people getting a 5 or 10 pack of the Chinese versions only to find DOA's in the bag.

The ones I picked up have the levers that you can just pinch and remove as there were none of the standard ones available on Canadian Amazon.

These are the ones you most likely need.
https://www.amazon.com/Japan-Subminiature-Switch-Logitech-SteelSeries/dp/B00HZBR4UG

Thanks Troll and I appreciate the info.

 

[TrollDragon]

Charlie, I received my Gloom a few weeks ago and I love it. The tubing on mine was also loose and of poorer quality than any other squonk mod I have. Before I even used the Gloom I swapped tubes.

Before using it I took my Gloom apart to have a look/see at the internals. Their wiring and solder joints are meh at best. I didn't like how exposed the MOSFET was in the Gloom so I made and applied a rubber patch to completely cover, and seal off, the MOSFET. There is no way juice will come into contact with mine. I am fairly confident that the exposed MOSFET is the reason for "some" autofires I read about. juice likely managed to work it's way up and onto the MOSFET and/or wiring. Likely a combination of a loose fitting tube and the exposed MOSFET IMO. I also suspect when some who experienced an autofire pulled their bottle they likely squirted juice up into the exposed MOSFET and wiring.

I don't know if you ever took one of yours apart. You can slide the black plastic washer off the squonk pin and looking inside you will clearly see the MOSFET is very exposed. If you pop the two 510 screws you can easily pull the 510 squonk assembly out to look at the wiring. You will see under the fire button all their exposed wiring.

I was very curious to know what the MOSFET actually does in the Gloom so I contacted Ulton. They replied with "We would recommend Hellfire mod over this gloom mod because of multiple protections and better soldering." They never answered what the Gloom MOSFET actually does but their answer is easy to read between the lines.

I have great confidence in my Gloom with the improvements and modifications.
It is a nice little squonker.

If you are interested I can shoot you some photo's of what I did to upgrade mine. Let me know.

The authentic Gloom's autofired as well if juice got in there until they fixed it. The industry has conformal coatings now that will do IP7 and IP8.

 

[charlie1465]

Charlie, I received my Gloom a few weeks ago and I love it. The tubing on mine was also loose and of poorer quality than any other squonk mod I have. Before I even used the Gloom I swapped tubes.

Before using it I took my Gloom apart to have a look/see at the internals. Their wiring and solder joints are meh at best. I didn't like how exposed the MOSFET was in the Gloom so I made and applied a rubber patch to completely cover, and seal off, the MOSFET. There is no way juice will come into contact with mine. I am fairly confident that the exposed MOSFET is the reason for "some" autofires I read about. Juice likely managed to work it's way up and onto the MOSFET and/or wiring. Likely a combination of a loose fitting tube and the exposed MOSFET IMO. I also suspect when some who experienced an autofire pulled their bottle they likely squirted juice up into the exposed MOSFET and wiring.

I don't know if you ever took one of yours apart. You can slide the black plastic washer off the squonk pin and looking inside you will clearly see the MOSFET is very exposed. If you pop the two 510 screws you can easily pull the 510 squonk assembly out to look at the wiring. You will see under the fire button all their exposed wiring.

I was very curious to know what the MOSFET actually does in the Gloom so I contacted Ulton. They replied with "We would recommend Hellfire mod over this gloom mod because of multiple protections and better soldering." They never answered what the Gloom MOSFET actually does but their answer is easy to read between the lines.

I have great confidence in my Gloom with the improvements and modifications.
It is a nice little squonker.

If you are interested I can shoot you some photo's of what I did to upgrade mine. Let me know.

SMT that's really useful and thanks if you can be bothered to send through some example of your modding that would be good. Its actually nice to have it confirmed that there is a mosfet in there as I personally didn't think there was (there is one the OG). I'd probably prefer it like that too.

I shy away from soldering but I think with my purchasing habits I need to get over that one and have a practice. That's all it will take to become proficient and it would be nice to quickly repaire bad solder joints.

Catch you later

 

[charlie1465]

The authentic Gloom's autofired as well if juice got in there until they fixed it. The industry has conformal coatings now that will do IP7 and IP8.

Or clear nail varnish

 

[TrollDragon]

Or clear nail varnish

This stuff would actually be better.
419C - Acrylic Conformal Coating (Fast Dry) - Conformal Coatings | MG Chemicals

 

[charlie1465]

This stuff would actually be better.
419C - Acrylic Conformal Coating (Fast Dry) - Conformal Coatings | MG Chemicals

Hey how you doing? Good I hope. How're are sales going?

Just playing with dressing up my BB's and the bantam boxes too. It's actually kind of nice knowing that under the panels are little embellishments that are hiding away.....I think the point is that you know they're there

I re-wrapped a couple of HG2's earlier with BB brnvd wraps....looking good and when they're charged should complete the ensemble

 

[Eskie]

This stuff would actually be better.
419C - Acrylic Conformal Coating (Fast Dry) - Conformal Coatings | MG Chemicals

Now that's useful stuff for sealing things up. If I end up with a new or repaired Luna. I might well take it apart and apply that to the board. The only other squonk I have with a mosfet is that S2 squonk from Mass Mods, but that looks all nice and sealed up.

@ShowMeTwice I'm not surprised they'd want you to get the Hellfire. I was actually tempted by it. Then again it's around $43 from FT, about twice or more of the Gloom, depending where you got it.

 

[ShowMeTwice]

SMT that's really useful and thanks if you can be bothered to send through some example of your modding that would be good. Its actually nice to have it confirmed that there is a mosfet in there as I personally didn't think there was (there is one the OG). I'd probably prefer it like that too.

I shy away from soldering but I think with my purchasing habits I need to get over that one and have a practice. That's all it will take to become proficient and it would be nice to quickly repaire bad solder joints.

Catch you later

PM sent with photo's.
Cheers

 

[ShowMeTwice]

This stuff would actually be better.
419C - Acrylic Conformal Coating (Fast Dry) - Conformal Coatings | MG Chemicals

Troll thanks for posting that. I will buy some.

Now that's useful stuff for sealing things up. If I end up with a new or repaired Luna. I might well take it apart and apply that to the board. The only other squonk I have with a mosfet is that S2 squonk from Mass Mods, but that looks all nice and sealed up.

@ShowMeTwice I'm not surprised they'd want you to get the Hellfire. I was actually tempted by it. Then again it's around $43 from FT, about twice or more of the Gloom, depending where you got it.

I was looking at the Hellfire too but got Gloom-ed instead. I may still pickup a Hellfire.

Eskie, this photo I took back in July when I posted my Luna take apart pic's here.

All you need to do is remove the 2 top screws. Then there are 2 screws holding the chip in place.
The chip will be easy to coat. I'm going to test it on this Luna before I go hog wild on all.

 

[ShowMeTwice]

Who all bought Gloom clones here?

Perhaps I should post the photo's for all who might be interested in sealing off the MOSFET?

Let me know please. Thanks.

 

[Eskie]

I was going to get a Gloom but got caught up in the Luna craze followed by the Ivapesupply blowout on the RAM and AD Crea. Thanks for that Luna photo. So I'll assume looking at it in person (can't tell in the photo) the board is not coated/sealed? If that's so it may well be worth the little effort to coat it. I found that stuff on Amazon, but just the spray on one. I'll do some digging for a small bottle of a paint on version if I end up going that route.

You would that these days every mod, regular or squonk, would have sealed boards. I can't see it adding that much more to the production cost.

Oh, post the photos. even if it may not be used for a Gloom, it would give a nice generic idea on how you went about protecting it.

 

[AngeNZ]

Morning shinies

Who all bought Gloom clones here?

Perhaps I should post the photo's for all who might be interested in sealing off the MOSFET?

Let me know please. Thanks.

Definitely post the pics - there's a lack of any information on this squonk mod, and others similar to it

Thanks for all the well wishes, gang. We have a rep from Senior Services coming tomorrow to talk us through the process for getting her into assisted living or nursing care, whichever she is determined to need.

She wanted to stay in her own apartment as long as possible and that went fairly well for a while, but I think she knows it can’t go on much longer.

Thinking of you both today - tell your Mom more calf pics will come at the weekend. We called Missy's baby calf Bobby

 

[TrollDragon]

Hey how you doing? Good I hope. How're are sales going?

Just playing with dressing up my BB's and the bantam boxes too. It's actually kind of nice knowing that under the panels are little embellishments that are hiding away.....I think the point is that you know they're there

I re-wrapped a couple of HG2's earlier with BB brnvd wraps....looking good and when they're charged should complete the ensemble

Doing well!

Just had an customer in with a 30Q that sparked in his charger because of a torn wrap, actually burnt his thumb on it. Told him he was very lucky the battery didn't vent or worse, took the bad battery from him as he was still using it and sold him a new one.

Yes the little embellishments are very nice on the BB and Bantam, even if they are covered.

Albert had a 24hr sale yesterday on Bantams, $75CAD got you the box, gold panel, button and key, clear boro and stainless window... All that was left was Orange and Green, I had one in the cart but didn't bother as 30W would be a struggle for me to find a decent vape.

 

[ShowMeTwice]

As requested ... here are my Gloom (squonker) modification photo's with info.

Location of the MOSFET

Perhaps a better angle

This one shows the top under the 510 squonk assy. and where the wiring is located under the Fire button.

After I applied the rubber patch.

Another angle.

Here is the detailed info on the rubber patch I used. I'm certain you can get these at a music store that sells saxophones or clarinets. Very likely a hardware store too.

So that is my mod for sealing off the MOSFET. The only other thing I did was replace the squonk tube because I didn't like how loose fitting it was. In my way of thinking over time juice might flow out of the tube while installed because it is loose fitting (that whole path of least resistance). And it just felt cheap compared to my other squonk tubes.

If anyone else has any ideas/thoughts please feel free to share. I'm confident together we can make the Gloom clone safer than Ulton did.

Hope that helps.

And just so all the info is in one place here is my earlier post on Gloom...

Charlie, I received my Gloom a few weeks ago and I love it. The tubing on mine was also loose and of poorer quality than any other squonk mod I have. Before I even used the Gloom I swapped tubes.

Before using it I took my Gloom apart to have a look/see at the internals. Their wiring and solder joints are meh at best. I didn't like how exposed the MOSFET was in the Gloom so I made and applied a rubber patch to completely cover, and seal off, the MOSFET. There is no way juice will come into contact with mine. I am fairly confident that the exposed MOSFET is the reason for "some" autofires I read about. Juice likely managed to work it's way up and onto the MOSFET and/or wiring. Likely a combination of a loose fitting tube and the exposed MOSFET IMO. I also suspect when some who experienced an autofire pulled their bottle they likely squirted juice up into the exposed MOSFET and wiring.

I don't know if you ever took one of yours apart. You can slide the black plastic washer off the squonk pin and looking inside you will clearly see the MOSFET is very exposed. If you pop the two 510 screws you can easily pull the 510 squonk assembly out to look at the wiring. You will see under the fire button all their exposed wiring.

I was very curious to know what the MOSFET actually does in the Gloom so I contacted Ulton. They replied with "We would recommend Hellfire mod over this gloom mod because of multiple protections and better soldering." They never answered what the Gloom MOSFET actually does but their answer is easy to read between the lines.

I have great confidence in my Gloom with the improvements and modifications.
It is a nice little squonker.

 

[Spydro]

Spydro this is really appreciated and exactly what I needed. It is very confusing and especially when there are discrepancies in knarling/design.

I also think I was getting confused due to sellers incorrectly naming some of the products they were selling. Having said that that the green 2.5 is still a Provari classic as well......i think

This will be an excellent starting point for further research so thanks again. I shall have to get used to some 1 ohm + coils again

If it helps you out getting on the straight and narrow path faster/easier then it was time well spent. Back in the early years of ECF there were many very knowledgeable Provari folks on PV related forums here on ECF. But they are scarce as hens teeth now days.

The 1.1Ω lowest coil limit is what destined my PV's to all be a fail for my vaping. I tried to help them along by using carto tanks that I ran By Leo Sopia RTA's in instead (I hate cartos). But they were still way too under powered and produced way too little vapor for my DL hits. So all too soon only two were still being used... a metallic green mini 2.5 with ext cap running an 18490, and a wrapped chrome 18490 driven by a ProVape Pass-Thru (that with it's accessories cost considerably more than a new Provari). I kept both on a ProVape wood cradle on my massive free form redwood slab coffee table by the couch, or just the chrome w/pass-thru in a different type of ProVape stand on a side table next to my recliner.

Old pictures from 2013 to very early 2014...

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Peace and Fire folks...

 

[Zazie]

I'm not a fan of mosfet lighting

Why? (Just curious.)

 

[ShowMeTwice]

Note for all who have a Luna squonker(s)...

The Luna uses the UL-80-JX chipset.

I just got off the phone with asMODus. The chipset IS coated. The four solder joints on the chip are uncoated. If a little liquid, or juice, got on those, or the board, it will be fine. That comes directly from the support staff and their experience repairing Luna's.

IMO from taking one of mine apart it would be very difficult to get juice into where the board is located. The design is solid and the compartment where the board is located is sealed off nicely.

If one of your Luna's ever goes belly up they do offer a board replacement service.
It's $30 for them to replace it (shipping extra).

 

[Zazie]

Morning all.

Thanks for all the well wishes, gang. We have a rep from Senior Services coming tomorrow to talk us through the process for getting her into assisted living or nursing care, whichever she is determined to need.

She wanted to stay in her own apartment as long as possible and that went fairly well for a while, but I think she knows it can’t go on much longer.

I’ll head over as soon as I’m showered and my tummy settles down. None of us had eaten so I stopped by Burger King on the way back from the hospital.

I tried the Impossible Burger. Whopper combos were $5, mine was $9. If you didn’t know it wasn’t meat, I bet you’d think there was something a little off with the burger, but I doubt you’d notice it was a veggie burger. Very close in looks and texture and flavor.

I don’t think the veggie part is what is giving me trouble so much as I haven’t eaten BK in years. You really ought to build up immunity to that kind of gut abuse.

I still have about a half dozen FT orders somewhere out there, blowing in the wind, but I bought a Zeus single and some spare squonk bottles for the Rams. I’m using one with the included PET bottle and it squeezes okay, but they don’t seem like they’d last long.

I'm sorry all this is happening and feel so bad for your mother having to come to grips with leaving her home, even if it does sound like it's time. I hope she can go to an assisted-living joint where she can still feel independent to a certain extent. It'll probably end up being better for all concerned once she's resettled, but this part has got to be very hard.