Shinyitis Support Group

[DeloresRose]

Oh, and I had the Flow pod with me. 7 hours in the ER. I went through about a third of the juice. I don’t know if I could have survived without it.

 

[charlie1465]

Good morning shiners! @DeloresRose I hope things work out for you with your mom. It does sound like her remaining in her home alone is becoming impossible for her safety. I hope any changes go smoothly.

@charlie1465 it could be. The problem I have is trust. And that's compounded by the lack of any venting (except maybe through the button). If it autofires in my pocket or even if I step out of the room for a little while, things don't end well. I really feel too concerned over using a mod that autofired like that, even if it turns out to be an intermittent or only occurred that one time problem. It's a personal thing, but once a mod misbehaves like that, I just can't have trust in it, even if it seemed to work fine for a few days or even weeks. That one failure not in my direct line of sight could become very nasty very quickly, and I don't fee like sitting around with one eye always on the mod to make sure it doesn't misbehave.

But that's my personal risk level, and you're right, use under observed conditions could be an option, but it's not one I want to live with. Anyway I'm still waiting on word from sourcemore, so maybe it'll be resolved. If not, sending it back to Asmodus might still be worth the shipping costs just to have them take a look inside and inspect it before I trust it.

Either way kinda sucks as it's such a beauty of a mod. But looks don't trump safety for me. Hopefully I'll have a solution in a few weeks and be back to enjoying a Luna.

No quite right actually and I would be the same in terms of worrying it may happen....it's human nature. However from a purely mathematical point of view there is just as much chance of it not auto-firing as there is firing so the risk either way is the same So just because it's auto fired once the odds that it will happen are just the same as before it auto fired.

If you can get your head around that

Mind you if you can still get a replacement or repair then great

 

[charlie1465]

Oh, and I had the Flow pod with me. 7 hours in the ER. I went through about a third of the juice. I don’t know if I could have survived without it.

Hey Delores...must have been a nightmare of a day. Thing is with this kind of thing it doesn't really stop even when mum's well again. I really hope you get a good solution from the senior services...it's never an easy desicion to make. If you can get round the clock home cover that would be great but don't know if that's an option for you but sometimes the old person's home is the only solution

One step, hour, day at a time. We're all thinking of you this end

 

[Eskie]

No quite right actually and I would be the same in terms of worrying it may happen....it's human nature. However from a purely mathematical point of view there is just as much chance of it not auto-firing as there is firing so the risk either way is the same So just because it's auto fired once the odds that it will happen are just the same as before it auto fired.

If you can get your head around that

Mind you if you can still get a replacement or repair then great

I do get your point but it's not really a simple heads or tails probability. A mod, any mod with a board, unregulated or regulated, should never fail to auto fire. It's a manufacturing failure. Once it occurs damage or failure in the circuit has to be assumed, and that stuff doesn't repair itself.

Mind you the first time I used it, it worked fine. It was only a few days later when entering real use with a full squonk bottle (a question on that to follow) that it happened. So if damage or failure happened it doesn't necessarily heal itself. Bottom line, it's a risk I personally won't assume.

Question. How do you get the bottle out?? I had to pinch it to work it down which flooded the atty. Also the tubing remained attached and pulled out of the bottle. Is there some trick I'm missing as it's a bit messy and don't want to gave to buy a 510 fill bottle if I can avoid it.

 

[the wind]

Morning all.

Thanks for all the well wishes, gang. We have a rep from Senior Services coming tomorrow to talk us through the process for getting her into assisted living or nursing care, whichever she is determined to need.

She wanted to stay in her own apartment as long as possible and that went fairly well for a while, but I think she knows it can’t go on much longer.

I’ll head over as soon as I’m showered and my tummy settles down. None of us had eaten so I stopped by Burger King on the way back from the hospital.

I tried the Impossible Burger. Whopper combos were $5, mine was $9. If you didn’t know it wasn’t meat, I bet you’d think there was something a little off with the burger, but I doubt you’d notice it was a veggie burger. Very close in looks and texture and flavor.

I don’t think the veggie part is what is giving me trouble so much as I haven’t eaten BK in years. You really ought to build up immunity to that kind of gut abuse.

I still have about a half dozen FT orders somewhere out there, blowing in the wind, but I bought a Zeus single and some spare squonk bottles for the Rams. I’m using one with the included PET bottle and it squeezes okay, but they don’t seem like they’d last long.

in my unprofessional opinion,see will like assisted living being around people her own age and activities with them once settled in.

 

[stols001]

My Rosefinch arrived .It's pretty in person!

Anna

 

[charlie1465]

I do get your point but it's not really a simple heads or tails probability. A mod, any mod with a board, unregulated or regulated, should never fail to auto fire. It's a manufacturing failure. Once it occurs damage or failure in the circuit has to be assumed, and that stuff doesn't repair itself.

Mind you the first time I used it, it worked fine. It was only a few days later when entering real use with a full squonk bottle (a question on that to follow) that it happened. So if damage or failure happened it doesn't necessarily heal itself. Bottom line, it's a risk I personally won't assume.

Question. How do you get the bottle out?? I had to pinch it to work it down which flooded the atty. Also the tubing remained attached and pulled out of the bottle. Is there some trick I'm missing as it's a bit messy and don't want to gave to buy a 510 fill bottle if I can avoid it.

I do understand. Hope it works out as you need

Yes what I do is carefully pinch the side of the bottle and pull it down until I can get my finger behind the bottle cap or base. It is a bit messy if you get it wrong but it's fine when you refill because the bottle is empty so doesn't shoot juice up as long as you pinch it carefully at the side.

 

[Eskie]

I do understand. Hope it works out as you need

Yes what I do is carefully pinch the side of the bottle and pull it down until I can get my finger behind the bottle cap or base. It is a bit messy if you get it wrong but it's fine when you refill because the bottle is empty so doesn't shoot juice up as long as you pinch it carefully at the side.

Yeah, I guess it was because it was a full bottle when I had my autofire issue. But what about the tubing? Does that eventually work itself out? Having it remain attached and pulled out of the bottle didn't help my mood.

 

[DancingHeretik]

Morning all.

Thanks for all the well wishes, gang. We have a rep from Senior Services coming tomorrow to talk us through the process for getting her into assisted living or nursing care, whichever she is determined to need.

She wanted to stay in her own apartment as long as possible and that went fairly well for a while, but I think she knows it can’t go on much longer.

I’ll head over as soon as I’m showered and my tummy settles down. None of us had eaten so I stopped by Burger King on the way back from the hospital.

I tried the Impossible Burger. Whopper combos were $5, mine was $9. If you didn’t know it wasn’t meat, I bet you’d think there was something a little off with the burger, but I doubt you’d notice it was a veggie burger. Very close in looks and texture and flavor.

I don’t think the veggie part is what is giving me trouble so much as I haven’t eaten BK in years. You really ought to build up immunity to that kind of gut abuse.

I still have about a half dozen FT orders somewhere out there, blowing in the wind, but I bought a Zeus single and some spare squonk bottles for the Rams. I’m using one with the included PET bottle and it squeezes okay, but they don’t seem like they’d last long.

My grandmother fell several times during her last years. Only once was it serious. She fell and hit her head on the toilet.

She refused to move out of her own home. She was on oxygen and in a hospital bed the last few months. But, she never left that house. She had a terrible fear of living in an institutional setting.

On the upside, she lived to be 100. Just a month or so short of 101.

The issue with my grandmother was blood pressure.

Hope all goes well for y'all.

 

[charlie1465]

Yeah, I guess it was because it was a full bottle when I had my autofire issue. But what about the tubing? Does that eventually work itself out? Having it remain attached and pulled out of the bottle didn't help my mood.

I agree it is a tight fit and I wonder whether there's another gauge tubing that would be just a tad looser. Its nice that it's tight in terms of leaking but then again my limelight almost feels too loose and i've never had any problems with it.

Mind does the same and there is a knack to it. Sometimes it pulls the tube out of the bottle, sometimes off the 510 tube connector. I think it'll loosen up in time....probably

EDIT...Just a thought....get some vg on the 510 connector and maybe that will lubricate it up enough to stop it happening.

 

[Spydro]

Yep différent models...so ive Got thé P3 and thé classic which actually looks like à 2.5 and still looking... I need a mini also

I have never owned the earliest versions Charlie (all of my ProVari's have 2.5 trons). But if you are referring to that green one you pictured here a ways back, it is a standard 2.5 IMO.

While not 100%, the different basic Provari versions prior to the P3... Provape-1, Provape-1 V2, Provari V2, Provari V2.5 had differences such as tube diameters and designs, battery sizes, different LED colors, what finishes they were each offered with and in some cases older versions were updated to newer trons for customers if returned to them for the pricey upgrade. Extension caps made them more versatile... a mini 18350 could run an 18490, a standard 18490 could run an 18650. (I bought matchy extension caps for all of mine.)

Very rarely ProVape used an older tube design with newer electronics in it with special finishes for prototypes that they never did a production run of. My 1 of 1 V2 tube/V2.5 tron Coyote Tan Military w/red LED's, black caps, dark screen is an example. There was also a Battleship Gray version of it that I tried to buy but couldn't talk the source out of it for all the tea in China.

The Stealth's and Stealth Mini's were a special project limited edition made for only one specific source who sold them at a much higher price than standard Provari's. He used all the profits to help first response military, police, fire department, EMS, etc folks who were suffering from syndromes associated with those jobs. The Stealth models have a special black triple coat finish that is near bullet proof, a darkened screen with blue LED's for vaping on night ops in stealth mode. The only variation I know of is my 1 of 3 Stealth's that have green LED's instead of blue.

A moldy old picture of five of mine from very early 2014 that shows some of the tube/finish/size differences. L to R, a 2.5 Stealth Mini, 2.5 Stealth, 2.5 w/ext cap, 2x2.5 Military and 2.5 Mini.


Some resources about the Provari's are still available on line... videos, articles and forum archives. A couple you may want to check out...

The History of ProVape - Guide To Vaping

 

[charlie1465]

I have never owned the earliest versions Charlie (all of my ProVari's have 2.5 trons). But if you are referring to that green one you pictured here a ways back, it is a standard 2.5 IMO.

While not 100%, the different basic Provari versions prior to the P3... Provape-1, Provape-1 V2, Provari V2, Provari V2.5 had differences such as tube diameters and designs, battery sizes, different LED colors, what finishes they were each offered with and in some cases older versions were updated to newer trons for customers if returned to them for the pricey upgrade. Extension caps made them more versatile... a mini 18350 could run an 18490, a standard 18490 could run an 18650. (I bought matchy extension caps for all of mine.)

Very rarely ProVape used an older tube design with newer electronics in it with special finishes for prototypes that they never did a production run of. My 1 of 1 V2 tube/V2.5 tron Coyote Tan Military w/red LED's, black caps, dark screen is an example. There was also a Battleship Gray version of it that I tried to buy but couldn't talk the source out of it for all the tea in China.

The Stealth's and Stealth Mini's were a special project limited edition made for only one specific source who sold them at a much higher price than standard Provari's. He used all the profits to help first response military, police, fire department, EMS, etc folks who were suffering from syndromes associated with those jobs. The Stealth models have a special black triple coat finish that is near bullet proof, a darkened screen with blue LED's for vaping on night ops in stealth mode. The only variation I know of is my 1 of 3 Stealth's that have green LED's instead of blue.

A moldy old picture of five of mine from very early 2014 that shows some of the tube/finish/size differences. L to R, a 2.5 Stealth Mini, 2.5 Stealth, 2.5 w/ext cap, 2x2.5 Military and 2.5 Mini.
View attachment 833817

Some resources about the Provari's are still available on line... videos, articles and forum archives. A couple you may want to check out...

The History of ProVape - Guide To Vaping

Spydro this is really appreciated and exactly what I needed. It is very confusing and especially when there are discrepancies in knarling/design.

I also think I was getting confused due to sellers incorrectly naming some of the products they were selling. Having said that that the green 2.5 is still a Provari classic as well......i think

This will be an excellent starting point for further research so thanks again. I shall have to get used to some 1 ohm + coils again

 

[ShowMeTwice]

Good morning Folks

I hope all have an awesome day.

 

[TrollDragon]

Good morning shiners! @DeloresRose I hope things work out for you with your mom. It does sound like her remaining in her home alone is becoming impossible for her safety. I hope any changes go smoothly.

@charlie1465 it could be. The problem I have is trust. And that's compounded by the lack of any venting (except maybe through the button). If it autofires in my pocket or even if I step out of the room for a little while, things don't end well. I really feel too concerned over using a mod that autofired like that, even if it turns out to be an intermittent or only occurred that one time problem. It's a personal thing, but once a mod misbehaves like that, I just can't have trust in it, even if it seemed to work fine for a few days or even weeks. That one failure not in my direct line of sight could become very nasty very quickly, and I don't fee like sitting around with one eye always on the mod to make sure it doesn't misbehave.

But that's my personal risk level, and you're right, use under observed conditions could be an option, but it's not one I want to live with. Anyway I'm still waiting on word from sourcemore, so maybe it'll be resolved. If not, sending it back to Asmodus might still be worth the shipping costs just to have them take a look inside and inspect it before I trust it.

Either way kinda sucks as it's such a beauty of a mod. But looks don't trump safety for me. Hopefully I'll have a solution in a few weeks and be back to enjoying a Luna.

My Luxotic autofired on me once, I tore it down as they can leak and there was nothing to be found no juice or anything inside. I put it away and was going to swap out the board for a Big Al's iSwitch. Tested it again some months later and the autofire issue went away, so I put it all back together and am still using it.

I don't trust it to be left on its own so I put a little plastic tab between the battery and contact when its not in use.

 

[ShowMeTwice]

Yeah, I guess it was because it was a full bottle when I had my autofire issue. But what about the tubing? Does that eventually work itself out? Having it remain attached and pulled out of the bottle didn't help my mood.

I had that happen with one of the tubes on a Luna did that. I was able to fix it by squirting some VG into the tube, then installing the tube on the squonk pin and just working it on and off. That fixed it for me.
Another option is grabbing the bottle and the tube inside the bottle and pulling it off. If your fingers are able.

I use three Luna's everyday, and have since I bought them, and none has had any issue with auto firing.
Hopefully sourcemore or asMODus are able to replace the one you have.

 

[TrollDragon]

Shiny delivery, new Omron switches (Japanese originals and not the Chi-Nee cheapies) arrived for my mouse to fix the bouncing left click.

It will take longer to get it apart than to change the switch.
Pic from the interwebs of the internals.

 

[Rob B.]

Oh, and I had the Flow pod with me. 7 hours in the ER. I went through about a third of the juice. I don’t know if I could have survived without it.

I went through the same thing with my parents a couple years ago. They live in Florida, and I tried to get them to move up here with me. They didn’t want to leave their friends, medical, and church. Thankfully my brother and I found a nice assisted living center that they love. My heart goes out to you Delores. You are in my thoughts every day, and I hope this all works out for you and your mom

 

[ShowMeTwice]

I agree it is a tight fit and I wonder whether there's another gauge tubing that would be just a tad looser. Its nice that it's tight in terms of leaking but then again my limelight almost feels too loose and i've never had any problems with it.

Mind does the same and there is a knack to it. Sometimes it pulls the tube out of the bottle, sometimes off the 510 tube connector. I think it'll loosen up in time....probably

EDIT...Just a thought....get some vg on the 510 connector and maybe that will lubricate it up enough to stop it happening.

Charlie, I received my Gloom a few weeks ago and I love it. The tubing on mine was also loose and of poorer quality than any other squonk mod I have. Before I even used the Gloom I swapped tubes.

Before using it I took my Gloom apart to have a look/see at the internals. Their wiring and solder joints are meh at best. I didn't like how exposed the MOSFET was in the Gloom so I made and applied a rubber patch to completely cover, and seal off, the MOSFET. There is no way juice will come into contact with mine. I am fairly confident that the exposed MOSFET is the reason for "some" autofires I read about. Juice likely managed to work it's way up and onto the MOSFET and/or wiring. Likely a combination of a loose fitting tube and the exposed MOSFET IMO. I also suspect when some who experienced an autofire pulled their bottle they likely squirted juice up into the exposed MOSFET and wiring.

I don't know if you ever took one of yours apart. You can slide the black plastic washer off the squonk pin and looking inside you will clearly see the MOSFET is very exposed. If you pop the two 510 screws you can easily pull the 510 squonk assembly out to look at the wiring. You will see under the fire button all their exposed wiring.

I was very curious to know what the MOSFET actually does in the Gloom so I contacted Ulton. They replied with "We would recommend Hellfire mod over this gloom mod because of multiple protections and better soldering." They never answered what the Gloom MOSFET actually does but their answer is easy to read between the lines.

I have great confidence in my Gloom with the improvements and modifications.
It is a nice little squonker.

If you are interested I can shoot you some photo's of what I did to upgrade mine. Let me know.

 

[stratus.vaping]

Shiny delivery, new Omron switches (Japanese originals and not the Chi-Nee cheapies) arrived for my mouse to fix the bouncing left click.
View attachment 833823

Longer to get it apart than to change the switch.
View attachment 833825

What a spectacularly clean mouse interior. Mine always looks like a hay barn! Or did you clean it first

 

[ShowMeTwice]

Shiny delivery, new Omron switches (Japanese originals and not the Chi-Nee cheapies) arrived for my mouse to fix the bouncing left click.
View attachment 833823

Longer to get it apart than to change the switch.
View attachment 833825

Very cool and nice job.
What mouse is that?
Would be good to know just in case I have the same mouse.
Thanks.