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    Today's experiment:
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    MTL staple 2.5mm id, 4*0.1x0.3mm/40 in the Juggerknot Mini rta.

    After I rewicked it tighter :facepalm: I gave it a go. At 25 watts, it was good, but came alive above 30 watts. To me it vaped similar to a 3*30/38 tri-core clapton, with a slightly faster ramp up and cool down.

    Although it's sold as MTL, the warmth and wattage needed makes this a much better option for a RDL setup in the 28-35 wattage range.

    MTL Staple Spool 10ft
     

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    Today's experiment:
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    MTL staple 2.5mm id, 4*0.1x0.3mm/40 in the Juggerknot Mini rta.

    After I rewicked it tighter :facepalm: I gave it a go. At 25 watts, it was good, but came alive above 30 watts. To me it vaped similar to a 3*30/38 tri-core clapton, with a slightly faster ramp up and cool down.

    Although it's sold as MTL, the warmth and wattage needed makes this a much better option for a RDL setup in the 28-35 wattage range.

    MTL Staple Spool 10ft
    Those are some nice looking coils. One thing I still have issues with now that I am using RTAs is how to know what wattage is good for the coil. At least with drop-in coils, there was a recommended range.
     

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    I was using Vape Tool Pro, and Stream Engine to give me a guide. But now I just start low, and keep increasing wattage until I'm happy.

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    I have used Steam Engine before but still a bit confused. One thing that gets me is that it shows the higher resistance, the higher the wattage. For example, it shows a 1.0ohm 28g Kanthal coil should be around 11 watts. While a 0.5 ohm coil should be at 5.6 watts.

    I had always thought that with higher resistance it meant lower wattage. At least that is what it seemed with drop-in coils. But this is showing higher resistance needs higher wattage.
     

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    Haven’t posted here in a while...

    But I, HBcorpse, am NOT a reformed Shinyitis-aholic.

    I give you, the EVO AIO by 67mod.

    21700 battery
    10ml tank
    DNA60

    Smaller and lighter than a Billet Box
    - full black and full Ultem versions to come
    - Dicodes version to come as well

    Any Billet Box Bridge (minus the Atmizoo VapeSnail and EVL Alien, for obvious reasons)

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    That looks nice and great that it takes a 27100. I like white too.

    Let us know how it Vapes. I'm presuming that the tank won't take any of the bigger atties for a Boro but it will take atties like the karma, Exocet etc.

    Thanks for sharing.
     

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    charlie1465

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    I have used Steam Engine before but still a bit confused. One thing that gets me is that it shows the higher resistance, the higher the wattage. For example, it shows a 1.0ohm 28g Kanthal coil should be around 11 watts. While a 0.5 ohm coil should be at 5.6 watts.

    I had always thought that with higher resistance it meant lower wattage. At least that is what it seemed with drop-in coils. But this is showing higher resistance needs higher wattage.


    Your quite right, the higher the ohm the lower the wattage. There's something amiss with your steam engine settings there :)
     

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    Glad I have simple taste,not sure I want a curd and how do you fit a square in a round tank.:confused: sorry but someone needs to take up @ShowMeTwice slack.
    WF Cranberry cocktail is a decent stand alone. I like with a bit of lime added and 1 drop of sweetness. I'll do a sft of the SSA Cranberry jam just for you.
     

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    Morning shinies ;)

    I have used Steam Engine before but still a bit confused. One thing that gets me is that it shows the higher resistance, the higher the wattage. For example, it shows a 1.0ohm 28g Kanthal coil should be around 11 watts. While a 0.5 ohm coil should be at 5.6 watts.

    I had always thought that with higher resistance it meant lower wattage. At least that is what it seemed with drop-in coils. But this is showing higher resistance needs higher wattage.

    It's all to do with the amount of wraps and the amount of metal to heat. Your lower resistance 0.5ohm 28g ka1 coil only has 3 wraps, which takes less wattage to heat than your 1ohm 6 wrap coil.

    I use the wire wizard at steam engine as it has capabilities for clapton, fused clapton etc coils. But the best way to compare various coils is the Heat Capacity - and that number is also on the Coil Wrapping Wizard.

    The larger number the heat capacity is - more wattage will be needed, it will ramp slower/cool down slower than a coil with a lower number heat capacity.

    When I'm comparing coils, I plug in my usual coil in one window and new coil in another. As I like a cooler vape but lots of flavour, I'm juggling between low Heat Capacity and more Surface Area.
     

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    Morning shinies ;)



    It's all to do with the amount of wraps and the amount of metal to heat. Your lower resistance 0.5ohm 28g ka1 coil only has 3 wraps, which takes less wattage to heat than your 1ohm 6 wrap coil.

    I use the wire wizard at steam engine as it has capabilities for clapton, fused clapton etc coils. But the best way to compare various coils is the Heat Capacity - and that number is also on the Coil Wrapping Wizard.

    The larger number the heat capacity is - more wattage will be needed, it will ramp slower/cool down slower than a coil with a lower number heat capacity.

    When I'm comparing coils, I plug in my usual coil in one window and new coil in another. As I like a cooler vape but lots of flavour, I'm juggling between low Heat Capacity and more Surface Area.
    I always just choose the thinner wire options for faster ramp. Saves me having to fool with the wizard.:D
     

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    Morning shinies ;)



    It's all to do with the amount of wraps and the amount of metal to heat. Your lower resistance 0.5ohm 28g ka1 coil only has 3 wraps, which takes less wattage to heat than your 1ohm 6 wrap coil.

    I use the wire wizard at steam engine as it has capabilities for clapton, fused clapton etc coils. But the best way to compare various coils is the Heat Capacity - and that number is also on the Coil Wrapping Wizard.

    The larger number the heat capacity is - more wattage will be needed, it will ramp slower/cool down slower than a coil with a lower number heat capacity.

    When I'm comparing coils, I plug in my usual coil in one window and new coil in another. As I like a cooler vape but lots of flavour, I'm juggling between low Heat Capacity and more Surface Area.
    You are explaining this well, I am just dumb. I don't get how the drop in coils used to use would be different. If they were low resistance, like 0.25 then it was listed at higher wattage than a coil that was 0.5 or 1.0.
     

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    You are explaining this well, I am just dumb. I don't get how the drop in coils used to use would be different. If they were low resistance, like 0.25 then it was listed at higher wattage than a coil that was 0.5 or 1.0.

    If you have a bulkier coil. (Thicker guage) then it will also read lower but take more heat(wattage) to function as expected.
    So if I make a 30g coil and a 24g coil with the same resistance respectively I'll need a lower wattage setting for the thinner guage coil to give me a similar end result as the 24g coil.
     

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