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Been seeing reports some states are now making the legal components of the other stuff illegal as well. Hope it doesn't happen here. Does wonders for one of my friends with her rheumatoid arthritis, she hasn't had to get cortisone shots for over a year and can sleep thru the night without prescription drugs.
 

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The same news station that pushed the original story then deleted it without retracting pushed this story last year: New teenage fad 'dripping' could be deadly

The interesting thing, if you do a search For the aritivles, neither the original or new story come up under vape. Searching via Google will turn up the original story with a 404 error and the new story.
 

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Specifically, they were selling one legal item that has questionable marketing practices; the police believed this legal item had illegal components to it. They shut down the shops, sent SWAT in, detained the employees, held press conferences in front of the stores condemning all vape shops, arrested them then unarrested after the lap results came back that there was no illegal substance in the product. Then the news web sites deleted the original story and passed off blame to faulty sources.
Tax dollars at work. Send in the troops first and hope for the desired results. Meanwhile tax paying business suffer. All in hopes of confiscating a product that is being sold to consenting adults. So much for smaller government
Sorry. I get a little worked up when police departments arrange for press ops and then say oops.
 

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Tax dollars at work. Send in the troops first and hope for the desired results. Meanwhile tax paying business suffer. All in hopes of confiscating a product that is being sold to consenting adults. So much for smaller government
Sorry. I get a little worked up when police departments arrange for press ops and then say oops.
Literally, the SWAT team went in, not just a waste of money, also endangered lives.
 

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Actually, they were not selling illegal stuff, the original article was taken down without a retraction and they rewrote history saying "oops". Most of the shops were more of the head shop variety though.
The "other stuff" is legal here so many shops sell gear for both. They do it openly and market it as such. They are in 2 seperate sections of the cases. Now that I have gotten used to it,kinda seems strange that other places aren't that way. Seriously SWAT?
 

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Literally, the SWAT team went in, not just a waste of money, also endangered lives.
They have their shiny and deadly toys that they want to show off in front of cameras. Sure, lets storm in and treat these employees like they are dangerous criminals. Have to make sure that everyone knows who's in charge. All this for a victimless crime (that ended up not being a crime). Meanwhile there are real crimes being committed and real victims who are suffering.
 

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The "other stuff" is legal here so many shops sell gear for both. They do it openly and market it as such. They are in 2 seperate sections of the cases. Now that I have gotten used to it,kinda seems strange that other places aren't that way. Seriously SWAT?
Texas no knock search warrants! If it involves drugs, it is going to be no knock. The SWAT van was hitting one after another as vape shop managers were texting each other saying such and such just got hit and the van is heading in such and such direction.
 

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I really hope one of Indiana's neighbors (how bout you Illinois!) legalizes the unnamed leafy green substance. Not for me, but so that my backwardass state will see the millions in tax dollars they are missing out on as our residents head out of state to spend their money.
 

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I really hope one of Indiana's neighbors (how bout you Illinois!) legalizes the unnamed leafy green substance. Not for me, but so that my backwardass state will see the millions in tax dollars they are missing out on as our residents head out of state to spend their money.

I'm on the fence where that's concerned ... I see it as detrimental really, but in the end it's not my call so I don't suppose it matters.

What bothers me is state's legalizing that but wanting to mess with ejuice flavors and ecigarettes.

I'll guarantee I know which is more harmful to youth, and it's not ecigarettes.
 

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New Orleans is a liberal island in the mostly conservative South. I live in the suburbs with two head/hookah shops within spitting distance. In Alabama, in the large, very cosmopolitan city close to our camp, a shop selling mostly Indian jewelry, henna, batik material etc got driven out of business by the building owners because they sold (gasp) rolling papers. Pretty sure paper is legal to own... but it was sure to be the downfall of the local youth. Hard to open closed minds, and if they associate vaping with drugs.... not great
 

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Texas no knock search warrants! If it involves drugs, it is going to be no knock. The SWAT van was hitting one after another as vape shop managers were texting each other saying such and such just got hit and the van is heading in such and such direction.
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Almost angry enough to smoke! but, won't do that, will make @Letitia mad and THEY will win! lol

I just know the kids, one shop that used to sell the legal item before the raids, but didn't get raided had the shop in the next strip mall raided. They employ a former group home kid trying to graduate high school, 20-year-old dude that had a baby last week, and two disabled people.
 

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I really hope one of Indiana's neighbors (how bout you Illinois!) legalizes the unnamed leafy green substance. Not for me, but so that my backwardass state will see the millions in tax dollars they are missing out on as our residents head out of state to spend their money.
I wish for the same but not holding out much hope. We'll see after the next round of elections. They need to legalize just for the income, our credit is shot thanks to the whole budget stalemate.
 

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I'm on the fence where that's concerned ... I see it as detrimental really, but in the end it's not my call so I don't suppose it matters.

What bothers me is state's legalizing that but wanting to mess with ejuice flavors and ecigarettes.

I'll guarantee I know which is more harmful to youth, and it's not the other stuff.
I respect why you and others feel that way. I just think that it's something that people are going to partake in and if it's monitored and regulated correctly the market will force the illegal sales out. It's going to be bought and sold regardless
 

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