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Is there a way to flip the screen? (not in the manual) The way mine came, the up button is down and the down is up. I know I'm in the southern hemisphere but c'mon!

First impression about the 510 is that the actual 510 pin (not the whole assembly) is very springy and even wobbles side to side with easy pressure. It's reading a 0.58 Ohm build at 0.62 Ohms which isn't disastrous but is a bit annoying.

I love the small size with a 21700. Pretty light weight. Threads on the battery cap are a bit crunchy but not terrible - think Pico 75W.
First impression is that it's firing a bit hot but that could be because of the resistance reading.

The placement of the up and down buttons is right in the way of my ring finger. Will need to lock those for sure with the way I hold it.

Not in the same league as the Mixx imo. Not even close.

Only had it for an hour so these are very much first impressions.
I agree with most of that. My 510 is rock solid (for the moment), but to be fair it didn’t get much use because the dani came shortly after. The up and down buttons ARE reversed, which is quite bothersome. Usually I can find a video review to help figure things out. I just didn’t get that far with it. Neither it or the Mixx stirred me up enough to search.
 

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Mine came loose again, I glued it the 2nd time, and it still has a little play, it's been put away for now, it looks really good, just not made really good unfortunately, it's well over priced for what it is, glad I got it on a good sale.
Guess what? Was gonna refill my KFL19 and my Paramour 510 is loose again. :lol: Gee, that didn't take long.

o_O W-T-Ferk?......:censored:ing POS

I was thinking of installing a lock washer between the 510 and the nut. Need to do some solder work in order to get a washer on the 510. Doable.

Do you recall if there is a washer installed on yours? I'm like 99.9% certain the lack of a lock washer is the problem with the 510. Design flaw.

I mentioned this in the Evolv-ing thread. BillW50 responded, besides the washer, he suggested trying some Loctite or even nail polish. I have Loctite. I'll try that first. For now the Paramour is back in its box narrowly missing the trash can on its way.

It is a way overpriced mod. And I'm also happy I got it on sale.
 

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Guess what? Was gonna refill my KFL19 and my Paramour 510 is loose again. :lol: Gee, that didn't take long.

o_O W-T-Ferk?......:censored:ing POS

I was thinking of installing a lock washer between the 510 and the nut. Need to do some solder work in order to get a washer on the 510. Doable.

Do you recall if there is a washer installed on yours? I'm like 99.9% certain the lack of a lock washer is the problem with the 510. Design flaw.

I mentioned this in the Evolv-ing thread. BillW50 responded, besides the washer, he suggested trying some Loctite or even nail polish. I have Loctite. I'll try that first. For now the Paramour is back in its box narrowly missing the trash can on its way.

It is a way overpriced mod. And I'm also happy I got it on sale.

This is all part of an ongoing lesson for me.
You spend more money on a better quality mod like a Dani or an authentic BB and you never regret it.
Affording it is not always easy and often impossible but forking out lots of 50 to 100 dollar amounts for mods that don't last is getting very old.
 

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Is there a way to flip the screen? (not in the manual) The way mine came, the up button is down and the down is up. I know I'm in the southern hemisphere but c'mon!

First impression about the 510 is that the actual 510 pin (not the whole assembly) is very springy and even wobbles side to side with easy pressure. It's reading a 0.58 Ohm build at 0.62 Ohms which isn't disastrous but is a bit annoying.

I love the small size with a 21700. Pretty light weight. Threads on the battery cap are a bit crunchy but not terrible - think Pico 75W.
First impression is that it's firing a bit hot but that could be because of the resistance reading.

The placement of the up and down buttons is right in the way of my ring finger. Will need to lock those for sure with the way I hold it.

Not in the same league as the Mixx imo. Not even close.

Only had it for an hour so these are very much first impressions.
There is no way of flipping the screen that I know of. I just tried all possible button combinations. I couldn't find a flip screen option.

Just so I understand you - the button on the left is up on yours and the right button is down? You must have received the new and improved southern hemisphere version. j/k



If you plan on using the Paramour in regular TC mode - don't.

Their TC implementation sucks bad. When I use it in TC I use TCR mode. Their TCR implementation is not the industry standard. The designers thought it would be a good idea to have the TCR value range go from 500 to 8000. I mean, that's normal, not. :lol:

The rest of the industry uses the standard known TCR values for the wire we use. Obtaining the TCR values for the commonly used wires in TC (ss316L, ss430, Ni200, Ti) via the Paramour folks was a PIA. It took me some time going back and forth via email exchanges to get their "recommended" values. I posted those in the SbS thread a while back.

IIRC their suggested TCR value for ss316L was 1150. I did some testing with a couple of my DNA mods comparing the vape to the Paramour set at 1150. It was close to a DNA chip but not quite right. I ended up at 1250 for 316L.

A customer should never have to jump through hoops to figure these things out.

Paramour. :)
 

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Guess what? Was gonna refill my KFL19 and my Paramour 510 is loose again. :lol: Gee, that didn't take long.

o_O W-T-Ferk?......:censored:ing POS

I was thinking of installing a lock washer between the 510 and the nut. Need to do some solder work in order to get a washer on the 510. Doable.

Do you recall if there is a washer installed on yours? I'm like 99.9% certain the lack of a lock washer is the problem with the 510. Design flaw.

I mentioned this in the Evolv-ing thread. BillW50 responded, besides the washer, he suggested trying some Loctite or even nail polish. I have Loctite. I'll try that first. For now the Paramour is back in its box narrowly missing the trash can on its way.

It is a way overpriced mod. And I'm also happy I got it on sale.
That sucks man. I'm sure that is pretty disappointing about the 510.
 

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You spend more money on a better quality mod like a Dani or an authentic BB and you never regret it.
Right on. Exactly.

Affording it is not always easy and often impossible but forking out lots of 50 to 100 dollar amounts for mods that don't last is getting very old.
Very true.

Of all the mods I own the Paramour is the only one that I would rate as junk. IMO the Paramour should have been a SMOK product.
 

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Ok straw poll time:

For those of you who build your own setups (wind from spools or buy pre-wound coils but not drop -ins) roughly how long does each coil last you?

Do they last days/weeks/months ?

I stretch my dual core claptons out to at maybe a month or so.
When I wind a new coil and get that fresh blast I sometimes think I should change them more often.

any thoughts??
 

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Ok straw poll time:

For those of you who build your own setups (wind from spools or buy pre-wound coils but not drop -ins) roughly how long does each coil last you?

Do they last days/weeks/months ?

I stretch my dual core claptons out to at maybe a month or so.
When I wind a new coil and get that fresh blast I sometimes think I should change them more often.

any thoughts??
I use 24awg ni80 at 50 watts. ~7ml per day

With this, I get about a month. Dry burn, rinse, rewick every 2 or 3 days

I used to run parallel 26awg and didn't get as long

If you want long life. Try titanium SSV Ti is highly regarded as a very pure grade. Which is important safety wise with Ti
 

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Ok straw poll time:

For those of you who build your own setups (wind from spools or buy pre-wound coils but not drop -ins) roughly how long does each coil last you?

Do they last days/weeks/months ?

I stretch my dual core claptons out to at maybe a month or so.
When I wind a new coil and get that fresh blast I sometimes think I should change them more often.

any thoughts??
I roll my own coils. Here are a few RBA's and their current coil life.

On my Arise I am running a 26/36 ss316L clapton. I installed it when I received my Arise back in early November. So 4 months and the flavor is still excellent.

My KFL19 with the same wire is nearing 3 months and still going strong.

The Dvarw DL FL, same wire, is at 4 1/2 months.

My Creeks are nearing 5 months.

I am running 12 mods and a combination of 12 RTA's and RDA's all the time. I follow what the guy at AVS told me as far as maintaining coils. He believes coils should last. I agree.

When the flavor is not what it should be with my DIY juices is when I install a new coil.

I get months.
 

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I don't use TC much. Is there an advantage to titanium for wattage mode over other wire types apart from longevity? Sometimes I use SS wires but mostly Ni80.
Not really. Very similar vape to nichrome

Nichrome and nickel have the worst longevity of all types. But ni80 plays nice with my throat sensitivities, which end up scratchy and horrible with SS etc
 

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What did the guy at AVS tell you?
I dry burn, rinse then brush my claptons/aliens. Is there a recommended technique for long life?
Here is an AVS webpage he told me to checkout. That page has much of what he told me over the phone.

Stainless Steel Coil & Wire Instructions and Tips - AVS
First video goes into ss316L. The second video he explains how to get longer life from your coils.

There are other tips on that page. Like: "DO NOT get your coils glowing bright red or white. A dull red glow is enough. If you get it too hot you will hurt the wire and it will form harmful oxides. (Oxides are present on any heated metal, harmful oxides aren't released on SS unless critical temps are reached, like a bright glow instead of a faint dull glow.)"

He also has some other decent videos on the AVS YT page.

I dry burn my ss316L claptons between 12.5w and 16.5w, never going higher. Very short pulses, from 0.5sec to 1-2 seconds max, making sure the wire never goes beyond a dull orange glow. Above he says "dull red glow". His dull red is the same as my dim dull orange (lol). Rinse and repeat as needed. Brush, rinse, repeat until clean. You never want to dry burn ss316L to a bright glowing orange or red like we would with kanthal. That will ruin ss316L. Same is true for other SS wire types.

Faint dull glow is key.

ETA: I follow the same procedure for Ni80. It works well for me.
 
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I agree with most of that. My 510 is rock solid (for the moment), but to be fair it didn’t get much use because the dani came shortly after. The up and down buttons ARE reversed, which is quite bothersome. Usually I can find a video review to help figure things out. I just didn’t get that far with it. Neither it or the Mixx stirred me up enough to search.
The up/down buttons are reversed on your Paramour? Or your Dani SbS?

On my Paramour, when the buttons are facing me, the left button is down and the right is up.
 

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On my Paramour, when the buttons are facing me, the left button is down and the right is up.
Same here.
So if you are looking at the numbers on the screen horizontally, the top button on the Paramour turns the values down and the bottom button turns the values up.
Reverse of most setups. Top button normally turns the values up and bottom button turns values down.
 

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Same here.
So if you are looking at the numbers on the screen horizontally, the top button on the Paramour turns the values down and the bottom button turns the values up.
Reverse of most setups. Top button normally turns the values up and bottom button turns values down.
On my Paramour when I am looking at the screen horizontally, the top button on the Paramour turns the values UP and the bottom button turns the values DOWN.
 

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But I'm making a different point. I don't know how many posters here bought Paramours, but if, say, thirty did, and three found fault with the mod, that means 10 percent of the total number of mods purchased had problems. That is not a good record.
Sorry to disagree again but mathematically speaking that doesn't prove causation only correlation....you need a much bigger sample size to say what your saying.... :wub:
 

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