So I could turn out to be full of it here.

[Punk In Drublic]

It’s not there because I don’t know exactly. I bought it I didn’t wrap it. What I do know: Ni80, very wide and flat, very small wrap wire. This to me means a fairly high number of fused heat wires, probably flat wire, and either 36 or 40ga wrap.

Fair enough. Taking a guess here but given its low resistance I suspect they utilized a low gauge wrap and obviously a lower gauge core(s). This will result in a very high mass coil. But as mentioned, not all Claptons are the same.

@tara81 – I own the Freemax Mesh Pro and have tried the single, dual and triple mesh coil heads. Do prefer the triple out of all 3 but I do not think it betters a good rda/RTA with a single or dual coil

As it was mentioned above the benefits with a subohm tank like the Freemax is convenience. But you are bound to the very limited choices they have to offer. With a rebuildable, there are much more options as to how you can configure it. Types of cotton (cotton/rayon), types of coils and even coil placement can have an effect on how the atomizer performs.

 

[greek mule]

Thanks for letting us know your experience! I’ve only tried a single Clapton rda and found the flavour from the mesh pro 5x better. Was curious about the dual coils! Do dual coil rta’s exist? If so how do you compare your favourite dual coil rta to the mesh pro?

Yes dual coil rta's exist.The difference between rta /drop in tank and rda is vapour at a rda has not to "travel" through a chimney and this results in better flavor.
And I must clarify that I have not tested the Mesh pro Tank.don't have one.
It is common knowledge rda's give better flavor.

 

[bombastinator]

I love the mesh pro and the coil lasts two to three weeks for me, I think it’s great quality I’ve read smok tanks aren’t the best for longevity or flavour. I find th falcon dual mesh almost as flavourful as the mesh pro, maybe a 5% difference?

Days is a lousy measure of coil life because everyone vapes different. As a general rule coil cartridges do last longer than RBA wicks by between 1.5-2x it seems to me. Still cost 60x as much to replace.

 

[bombastinator]

Is that the Titan deck?

Same aromamizer plus I’ve been using for the whole thread. That was the 2ohm radiator coil I was comparing to the subohm fused Claptons.

 

[bombastinator]

Running a new more “radiatory” radiator coil this time. I’m also abandoning SS for this build because I can’t get the TC to work right on my legend atm anyway.

2x 28g Ka1 18wraps on 3.5mm mandrel

UPDATE:
Vaping it. Runs ~1.8ohm up over 2.1ohm under load. Otherwise identical to the other coil. Perhaps a bit less flavor and a bit more cloud. Had to bring it down to 20w to avoid burning taste. Running just under 6v. 6.7 under load.

I liked the old coil better I think.

MORE UPDATE:
After the coil settled a bit I was able to 32w 7.5v resting, 8.5v under load. NOW it’s the equal of the big boy. Or more maybe. Tons of cloud and the flavor opened. 2-3 less Volts, one third the wattage. Smoother vape.

 

[muth]

Heh. I don’t blame you at all. I considered this thread unreadable when it passed page 6.
The answer i think is “maybe”. Triple mesh will throw a lot of vaporized juice and be relatively cool. A dual Clapton will be warmer at a lower wattage because it heats more air and less juice. Flavor volume follows juice volume, but there is a possibility that hot air may effect flavor character. That bit is still a mystery to me.

Huh? You went from too funny to too complicated

 

[muth]

Running a new more “radiatory” radiator coil this time. I’m also abandoning SS for this build because I can’t get the TC to work right on my legend atm anyway.

2x 28g Ka1 18wraps on 3.5mm mandrel

UPDATE:
Vaping it. Runs ~1.8ohm up over 2.1ohm under load. Otherwise identical to the other coil. Perhaps a bit less flavor and a bit more cloud. Had to bring it down to 20w to avoid burning taste. Running just under 6v. 6.7 under load.

I liked the old coil better I think.

MORE UPDATE:
After the coil settled a bit I was able to 32w 7.5v resting, 8.5v under load. NOW it’s the equal of the big boy. Or more maybe. Tons of cloud and the flavor opened. 2-3 less Volts, one third the wattage. Smoother vape.

 

[muth]

Which rta is better for flavour and how much better in comparison by percentage if you had to guess? Also what coil types? Thanks I’m a flavour junkie and so far love the mesh pro. I tried single coil rta and rdas and the flavour sucked in comparison, but I’m a coil wrapping newbie! I also tried Clapton coils bought from store.

I've been building for awhile now but I have to admit that mesh coils are the bomb. Yup, I mean drop in coils. But if you can build and wick a mesh coil properly you'll enjoy that equally. They are fussy little devils, though.

 

[bombastinator]

I did what with my what?

 

[bombastinator]

So the new radiator coil started to get that burned fast that goes with dead wicks. I changed the wick, and it was a bit different. Instead of a mass of .... on the outside of the coil, the outside was basically clean. INSIDE the coil things were different. The coils had burned completely through, and though there was far less .... than normal, there was a good bit of it on the inside of the coil which had to be dry burned away (yay kanthal). I think the next step is to do a pair of 28ga 20 wrap 3.5mm coils (which turn into 18 wrap 4+mm when they are released from the mandrel) and try those on TC. If I can get a good vape and keep the wick from burning there may be a really good coil thing here. (Though yes, undoubtedly folks have tried this years ago. There is nothing new under the sun)

 

[Zakillah]

Hmmm, a single huge radiator in the postless deck of the Aromamizer. Something like 2 x 4mm....I'm gonna try that.
Only thing is, will the middle part be too far away from the airflow and cause problems?

 

[bombastinator]

Hmmm, a single huge radiator in the postless deck of the Aromamizer. Something like 2 x 4mm....I'm gonna try that.
Only thing is, will the middle part be too far away from the airflow and cause problems?

It was two weak ones rather than one long one. Also I’m using thicker spaced wire and no parallel coils. It very well might. It did burn through faster than I expected. I’m trying to stay under or at least close to 2ohm as the single smaller SS one I’ve got in my Drone tends to touch “ohms too high” if I hold the button down too long.
I may have to stop messing with it entirely and go back to smaller stuff. The thing may simply produce too much vapor for an enclosed space.
My sister came over today and mentioned that my house smelled like “mrs butterworth”

 

[440BB]

My sister came over today and mentioned that my house smelled like “mrs butterworth”

Is it because you were making pancakes?

 

[bombastinator]

Is it because you were making pancakes?

 

[bombastinator]

Is it because you were making pancakes?

Bah. I’m going off for breakfast now and I’m going to eat some pancakes which I lay upon your head. They will land in my stomach of course, but I’m laying them on your head first.

 

[Katdarling]

Best (healthful) pankakes ever.

(3 ingredz pankakes - banana, eggies, maple syrup)

 

[bombastinator]

Best (healthful) pankakes ever.

(3 ingredz pankakes - banana, eggies, maple syrup)

So carbohydrates, fat, and sugar then. Oh.. with a bit of protein from the egg whites. I think that’s more or less what I ate.

 

[Katdarling]

So carbohydrates, fat, and sugar then. Oh.. with a bit of protein from the egg whites. I think that’s more or less what I ate.

Welp, we can discuss our carbs and fat at some point, but as far as the sugar from the maple? They are deeeeeeeeelish even without the syrup. (tho I do love a sprinkle of salt on 'em)

 

[bombastinator]

Welp, we can discuss our carbs and fat at some point, but as far as the sugar from the maple? They are deeeeeeeeelish even without the syrup. (tho I do love a sprinkle of salt on 'em)

Bananas are full of sugar too. This is a thing I used to get into a lot with my step mother. Chemicals are chemicals. It doesn’t matter where they came from. At least as far as your body is concerned. Everything gets dropped in a big vat of acid (your stomach) and gets broken down into component parts to begin with, at which point their origin source ceases to matter. You could create a totally healthy diet using all completely artificial ingredients. Nobody does not because it’s not possible, but because it’s horrifically expensive. This is the reason junk food is junk food. Not because it’s processed, but because it’s up processed. It’s made using the cheapest possible and generally quite unhealthy ingredients and then formed into something tasty. Below is the contents of a banana.
https://jameskennedymonash.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/ingredients-of-a-banana-poster-4.pdf

 

[bombastinator]

Further silly updates in my attempt to match a super sub ohm dual exotic coil safely and easily:

So the second wick to go the 2x28ga 18 wrap @3.5mm coils was great till it burned too but this time it burned in barely a day. Whoever it was that said the coils were too long is right.

So: shorter fatter coil: I wanted to make the biggest coil I could fit so I wound the coil around the handle of a dental pick.
Pick handle micrometers for me at 5.25mm, and the exterior diameter of the finished coil was 6.15mm. It’s a big sucker. So big I could only fit one of them on the deck and used so much cotton I had to thing the tails on the single wick
It’s a pretty ugly coil and was developing some burned spots where the coil was particularly poorly done.
9 wraps of 28ga coming in at ~2.6-2.8ohm depending on whether it’s firing or not, 6.6v.

It vapes at 16w a lot like the earlier coil did at 32w.

One handy thing is the coil is so ridiculously big I can reach into the inside of it with the dental pick and adjust the cotton and wire placement to reduce hot spots.