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Mark understands my struggles now. I'm so sorry.

Chasing that feeling away takes more than vaping, time, and willpower. When I figure out the something I'll share with the class.

For now WTA curbs a lot of it. If you haven't tried it you'll wonder what the hype is about. Just please don't think I'm nuts!

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I don't think it's flavor, taste , or anything else like that. It's something habit related that I can't put my finger on. Late at night I find myself instead of sleeping I want to step outside on the porch but if I do there's still something missing. It's not a taste or anything like that but I haven't figured it out yet. It's totally mental.

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Lol, not trying to laugh at that, but I understand about that something "extra".

All I thought when I read that last line was "should be easy for me... I'm mostly mental"!!
 

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You do not need to buy a full sized Provari to use an 18650 battery. You use your Mini, the extension cap and a Tatroe extension ring. Or just two Tatroe extension rings. I do not remember where I got mine. Check this thread.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/provape/541402-great-2014-provari-ring-roundup.html

This will show you links to the rings. Most that carry the rings will carry an extension ring. Tatroe and Hippo (more $) are the 2 I can think of off the top of my head. They show up in the Classifieds some times but not at a discount usually.


Good Afternoon! I hope everyone is having a great day!

Went to hospital last night, nothing too horrible, my back was tied up in knots, Had to have some injections just Torodol and a muscle relaxer but it helped. Muscle relaxer made me very sleepy and I got 8 hours in!!!! Yay me, been a long time since I could do that!

Waiting for nephew to check mailbox to see if I got my Itaste VV V3, gave my others to roommate and a friend so I really would like that to come soon, I miss having that! I have to get an extender for the Provari mini, I am constantly changing the battery! Note to self, when I am in better financial shape, get a bigger Provari need to use it as 18650! (already have it lined up, just waiting on the cash!)
 

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My biggest problem is seeing. And now I am realizing that my hands are not as agile as they used to be. Does not bother me to type, but the small work involved in manipulating wire into a coil and little screws and stuff is hard for me to do. Do not remember having trouble with that stuff years past. I think age and arthritis is catching up with me.

I have a few links regarding using DarkZero's jig and to a thread where someone made a wood copy of it. Couple others too. Let me know if you want me to post them or PM me.

Congrats! I knew you would master it. I saw a review of one yesterday that might change my mind. Look up the "EXpromizer". I realized what didn't appeal to me was the abscence of a tank. I can't sit still during a commercial, much less to drip would feel like torture. Convienence trumps flavor I guess. I'd be buying a pack in 15 min. of that. Different strokes, eh?

I heard of a different coil where you wrap the wick around the long center tube and somehow the coil heats that up. It was just mentioned and went over my head. But it sounds like there are ways to do it without threading cotton inside the little tiny micro coils. There's some videos of a coiling thing on YouTube from someone called DarkZero too. I liked his jig and it wouldn't be hard (for even me) to do.

But I knew you were going to figure out how to do it.
 

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Are you absolutely sure your vape is right??? I have found that 'missing' or 'longing' feeling a couple of times in the last 8 months. Did not want a cigarette, but something was not satisfying me. When I use my Spinners, I find that as they get close to needing a charge I can slowly lose the quality of my vape and not realize it. Same with when one of my 510 attys is getting close to biting the dust. That day or 2 before. Once the battery is dead or the atty dies I can look back at it and say, oh!, that was it. But I am not good at telling what it is
at the time it is happening. I did not realize this was happening that much until I started using just my provari for days at a time.

So my suggestion is to take and thoroughly clean everything, whether you think it needs it or not. Change coils. If your egos or MVP are close to extinction use a device you can change batteries in and see if that makes a difference. Switch up your juice. Vape a totally different flavor or maybe you need to briefly up your nic level to get over a hump.

I am finding that if I string together 2 or 3 mediocre days of vaping in a row I am in that 'missing something' place and it is not good for me. So I try to be proactive.

Or I go the opposite and just vape unflavored or straight vg for a couple of days. Then I know there are no expectations on a wonderful, flavorful vape and I get past it.

The last few days I've really missed something and smoked a cigarette today seeing if that's what it was.
OMG it tasted like I was inhaling a balloon or kids pool float. It did not satisfy the whatever I was craving the last few days. I did get so dizzy I could barely walk but had to drink a bunch of water to get that nasty plastic/rubber taste out of my mouth.
I really don't know what I'm craving but nicotine and/or a cigarette ain't it I did find out today.
I can't think of any juices I've had that I might be missing, it's just something I still can't put my finger on but it's driving me batty, even affecting my sleep.
Anybody else run into that? Did you ever figure out what it was or did it just eventually go away?

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Mark, are you vaping everywhere in the house. I have found that since I have started vaping in my living room I am vaping more and not being quite as satisfied. Part of it is dropping nic level but I also think that part of it is about me not having to go out to the sunroom to vape. That is the only place I smoked so now there is no special place I vape. I never smoked in the house. I still do not know if that is one of my 'missing' list items but the timing on it fits for me. Just a thought thrown out to you.

I also considered that I might be getting bored with vaping in general. Kind of like my smoking became boring and a burdensome habit/addiction. One of the reasons I got the Provari and now I am going to build coils. I do not feel like I want a cigarette in the least, but boredom is very bad for me, since I do not work and do not get around a lot.

It also may be a sense of loss, the loss of an old friend, the cigarette and all associated with it. Although I do not miss it and being around others that smoke does not trigger anything in me except a scrunching of the nose once in a while.

I don't think it's flavor, taste , or anything else like that. It's something habit related that I can't put my finger on. Late at night I find myself instead of sleeping I want to step outside on the porch but if I do there's still something missing. It's not a taste or anything like that but I haven't figured it out yet. It's totally mental.

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Hi to you, lonz and darksparkle. Welcome to the thread. Lonz, you may be having a bout of Vaper's Tongue, where you can taste nothing and it is miserable for a day to a week, in which case that is when I vape up unloved flavors or just plain unflavored for the duration. It does pass and will come back time to time. Drink lots of water. Then drink some more water. This is key. I am finding that for myself, if I do not drink enough water I can tell in the taste of my vape. By the time I can tell, it is too late and it takes hours to a day to make it all better.

And Darksparkle, good to see you here. Yeah, we are a prettymuch chatty group. We do really discuss how vaping does or does not work for us at any given time. It is the best way for me to be successful and the give and take is a way to stay connected to a group of people that I have grown most fond of.

The wonderful thing about this thread and the people here is that we are not going to judge a person. Your journey is YOUR journey. We can relate our experiences and tips and tricks and stories. By you doing the same, we all learn a little and grow. Although we do love our lurkers. Some people are too shy to post so we are happy that there is a place they know they can come and just read if that is more comfortable.

Hang out with us and chat a bit.


(almost) ex chain smoker here. Jumped into vaping head first, have a growing assortment of gear, and am building my own coils for some of my tanks/RDA's but for whatever reason, I can't 100% taste my juices like when I first started. Very frustrating because I find myself going through alot of liquid/coils/patience before I find something that tastes right. Am I just getting more and more picky? Have you all had this experience before?

I usually blend a couple strengths of Java from DuraSmoke with some pure PG to my liking. Its tasted perfect at this mix (I know there are easier ways to get there but): 100% VG 24MG (35%) 50/50 18MG (50%) and Pure PG (15%) The point being this worked very well for a while, but now it's not hitting like I need it to. New coils, clean tank, same resistance, wattage, everything. Am I missing a variable thats obvious to some veterans??? Or do I need to stop chain vaping and switch flavors for a while? I actually tried to mix in some tribecca (another tank, not mix juice) and it seems to help a little, but that starts tasting bland after a few puffs. Also - this is kinda odd, but vaped some apple cinamon and switched back to java (again, in a different tank/battery) and the after taste from the apple cinamon and coffe taste like flat beer!? ...?> LOL

Sorry that I'm all over the place, but just wanna get this working CONSISTENTLY so I don't have to smoke a cig to remind me that my juice actually tastes better (down to an average of 3 cigs per day from pack+)


btw.... I'm using an MVP2/ProTank 2 and some ego's with mini pro tanks for my all day vapes with stock coils (usually a fresh coil per day)

What great stories and makes me feel ok Bout where I am in my journey..
Thank each and everyone of you to expose your selves!
I am doing wonderful
Replacing the analogs with vaping, but there are times of the day that vaping just doesn't get it!
 
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OK, now that I'm home from work and can comment decently without having to move the truck every 2 minutes I'll try to break this down some. I'm far from an expert, but here's my 2 cents.

(almost) ex chain smoker here. Jumped into vaping head first, have a growing assortment of gear, and am building my own coils for some of my tanks/RDA's but for whatever reason, I can't 100% taste my juices like when I first started. Very frustrating... Am I just getting more and more picky? Have you all had this experience before?

I usually blend a couple strengths of Java from DuraSmoke with some pure PG to my liking. Its tasted perfect at this mix... New coils, clean tank, same resistance, wattage, everything. Am I missing a variable thats obvious to some veterans??? Or do I need to stop chain vaping and switch flavors for a while? I actually tried to mix in some tribecca (another tank, not mix juice) and it seems to help a little, but that starts tasting bland

btw.... I'm using an MVP2/ProTank 2 and some ego's with mini pro tanks for my all day vapes with stock coils (usually a fresh coil per day)

Starting from the top, there are a lot of things going on here and that means lots of variables. So let's keep it simple and just work with your favorite set up (I'll assume its the pro tank and MVP for clarity).

First off, most of the time brand new pro tank coils (and most stock coils for that matter have a "bedding in" period, during that time they will produce less than optimum flavor and vapor but I will just focus on flavor.

The idea of getting a coil to "bed in" just means to get fully saturated with juice and start wicking properly, and its a slightly different amount of time for each coil since they are made by hand (this even applies to me when I just re-wick an existing coil). You might get around 90% of the flavor right away and see that flavor become a bit stronger as you use the coil for a few hours, silica wicks can be notorious for this and tend to under-wick in the beginning (one of the reasons I moved to cotton). Also, when you change flavors frequently your taste buds can get burned out (the same way they do if you go sample several fragrances back to back in a short amount of time); still its nothing to worry about, just vape the same flavor for a half hour or so and then try the switch again.

About switching tanks, I have noticed (maybe some of you have noticed it too) that some tanks give a better or true-er flavor than others (not counting that "factory-fresh" taste if not washed well) and that is just a preference thing on my part. IMO, my favorite drip tip almost gagged me before I washed it till it nearly cried for mercy lol. The thing with building coils is that very tiny differences can change subtle things in your flavor and the way it comes out as you vape it, not something big for now but it might be later. The key for me hasn't been perfection but repetition, if I can't repeat that vape that I loved when I first built it I will head to the store for the bad stuff... I would highly suggest a simple micro coil that you can just rewick every few days while the coil stays intact and on the RDA if you want to start with rebuildables and are having issues.

Like I said in my earlier post, I think you just have a case of vapers tongue and it will go away in a few days on its own. I will say that in my experience smoking a cigarette will not help get over it, it will actually make it stay longer.

If you can't get past the flavor block, I have a "melt your tastebuds" menthol that is strong enough to do everything but the dishes, just ask TopDog lol. I would be happy to send you a sample of it, kinda doubt most people would vape it all day like I do :cool:

Anyway, that's my thoughts on it, just yell if you need something and I'm sure someone will be around. Happy vaping and Embrace the Suck!!
 

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Hi, darksparkle!

ABSOLUTELY! I look at it as a choice. Smoke or vape. No judgement.

Lots and lots of times I just choose to vape.
Sometimes I choose to smoke instead.
The times I choose to smoke are getting much fewer and farther between.
But I don't keep score.
Some day I hope to realize that I accidentally went a month without smoking. And I think it's gonna happen.
Probably still a couple months away though. I'm OK with that.

Welcome to ECF, and this forum in particular! Lots of great people here! Not me, but the rest of these guys are OK.

Hahah well I am sure your ok! Yeah I have been vaping more and smoking less, but it drives me crazy when something happens and in my head I think I need a "real" smoke.... Or I "reward" myself with a smoke, I want to reward myself with a vape instead!
 

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Darksparkle you aren't alone in that! I have been vaping for over a year, I still smoke. I cut down from 3-4 PAD to less than 1 PAD. I am not satisfied with that, I keep chasing the final quit. DIfferent devices, different juices, different tanks. I am not the best at self control, ask me about my sugar levels. I do know that I have to quit eventually.

I would never have stayed with it, without this group of people here. I would have left the Forum, and gone back to full time smoking. They give me the strength and the support I need to continue.

Stick around and enjoy these wonderful friends and you will find that you will not be judged and are always welcome!
 

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I feel that unsatisfied feeling much of the time, but I clearly remember having the same feeling after smoking too, it's one of the reasons I quit. For me it begins the search for a new flavor to break the monotony of what I am vaping.

Something I find that really helps is to eat an orange, but that only helps for a little while, I think for me it is boredom and I just live with it.

I know it isn't a cigarette because I clearly remember the same feeling when I was still smoking and right after a cig too.

Are you absolutely sure your vape is right??? I have found that 'missing' or 'longing' feeling a couple of times in the last 8 months. Did not want a cigarette, but something was not satisfying me. When I use my Spinners, I find that as they get close to needing a charge I can slowly lose the quality of my vape and not realize it. Same with when one of my 510 attys is getting close to biting the dust. That day or 2 before. Once the battery is dead or the atty dies I can look back at it and say, oh!, that was it. But I am not good at telling what it is
at the time it is happening. I did not realize this was happening that much until I started using just my provari for days at a time.

So my suggestion is to take and thoroughly clean everything, whether you think it needs it or not. Change coils. If your egos or MVP are close to extinction use a device you can change batteries in and see if that makes a difference. Switch up your juice. Vape a totally different flavor or maybe you need to briefly up your nic level to get over a hump.

I am finding that if I string together 2 or 3 mediocre days of vaping in a row I am in that 'missing something' place and it is not good for me. So I try to be proactive.

Or I go the opposite and just vape unflavored or straight vg for a couple of days. Then I know there are no expectations on a wonderful, flavorful vape and I get past it.
 
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