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Well, after all this banter about dry hits, I experimented with mine.
I rewicked 6 different times using a contact coil.( Kanthal 26gauge, 3mm id, with KGD)
Each time I varied the amount of cotton,both tight and lose in the coil, short tails, long tails, and trimmed 1/3 off the tail, and made sure I didn't cover the juice holes. Each time dry hits.
I then switched to a spaced coil, with similar wicking as above, and continued to get dry hits.
All of this of course with the same juice. 80/20(vg/pg)
I then switched to 50/50 juice, with the same dry hit cotton and coil still in place, and voila, no more dry hits.
I also varied the opening on the juice control, between 2-4 full turns on the dry hits with no success. The only way I could avoid the dry hits was to vent the chamber by loosening the fill cap, thus flooding the coil.
I know others have had no problems with max vg juice, but as previously noted in this thread, adding a little distilled water to the juice before rewicking may solve some of the dry hit issues. Just my two cents.
 

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Well, after all this banter about dry hits, I experimented with mine.
I rewicked 6 different times using a contact coil.( Kanthal 26gauge, 3mm id, with KGD)
Each time I varied the amount of cotton,both tight and lose in the coil, short tails, long tails, and trimmed 1/3 off the tail, and made sure I didn't cover the juice holes. Each time dry hits.
I then switched to a spaced coil, with similar wicking as above, and continued to get dry hits.
All of this of course with the same juice. 80/20(vg/pg)
I then switched to 50/50 juice, with the same dry hit cotton and coil still in place, and voila, no more dry hits.
I also varied the opening on the juice control, between 2-4 full turns on the dry hits with no success. The only way I could avoid the dry hits was to vent the chamber by loosening the fill cap, thus flooding the coil.
I know others have had no problems with max vg juice, but as previously noted in this thread, adding a little distilled water to the juice before rewicking may solve some of the dry hit issues. Just my two cents.
80 is pretty thick and I think some 80 could be thicker then other 80's, so that could be a pretty thick juice. I haven't received mine yet , so I'm not sure how it does with thick juices but in all my other tanks 70 is the thickest I go and the 70 vg juices I do use, don't really seem that thick. I never had an issue even over 25 watts but use rayon 95 percent of the time and find it wicks a little better so maybe give it a try if you haven't already. Also an 80 vg in cold weather can even get thicker

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Well there is no doubt your using enough cotton, so that's not the issue, in fact if you only had it in for a short time and it looked singed, it's either getting choked from to much wicking material or juice is not getting to the coil as much as it should. Maybe others are also using 26g, but I haven't noticed, but maybe it's just that combination of wire, juice, that's making such a big difference. 26 is my favorite wire as well and once I get this atty, I hope I can use it with a contact coil . I just never have heard that big of a difference between the 2 coils, yes I have heard some saying they get a little more flavor from a spaced, or they can go 4 more mls before rewicking but for one not to really work at all is strange . I do have to say that looking at your picks, that the cotton in your spaced coil looks less then the contact, whether it's enough difference to create these results, not sure

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I also thought that maybe it was getting choked from too much cotton, but it's the same amount cotton that I used on both coils, same strip cut in half... and it's about the same amount I've used in the K4 for so long.

I think what's happening is me not being satisfied with the flavor using the tight coil, so I keep turning up the wattage and eventually ruining the wick. It'd be interesting to see how a spaced coil affects the K4, since I never felt the need to do that...

It's been working great so far today. :thumbs:
 
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Well, after all this banter about dry hits, I experimented with mine.
I rewicked 6 different times using a contact coil.( Kanthal 26gauge, 3mm id, with KGD)
Each time I varied the amount of cotton,both tight and lose in the coil, short tails, long tails, and trimmed 1/3 off the tail, and made sure I didn't cover the juice holes. Each time dry hits.
I then switched to a spaced coil, with similar wicking as above, and continued to get dry hits.
All of this of course with the same juice. 80/20(vg/pg)
I then switched to 50/50 juice, with the same dry hit cotton and coil still in place, and voila, no more dry hits.
I also varied the opening on the juice control, between 2-4 full turns on the dry hits with no success. The only way I could avoid the dry hits was to vent the chamber by loosening the fill cap, thus flooding the coil.
I know others have had no problems with max vg juice, but as previously noted in this thread, adding a little distilled water to the juice before rewicking may solve some of the dry hit issues. Just my two cents.
I use a 70/30 juice, so not as thick, and not a single dry hit. Unless I forget to open the juice control after a refill, done that a couple times! :oops:

Do you fluff your KGD? And remove the outer layers? I spend way too much time perfecting my wicks, I do that in all my tanks, but the results are always excellent, for both wicking and flavor. I cut about .5-1", remove outer layers, roll it then insert it. I then spend lots of time fluffing it using tweezers, then cut to length and I'm good to go. Never ever a dry hit.
 

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I use a 70/30 juice, so not as thick, and not a single dry hit. Unless I forget to open the juice control after a refill, done that a couple times! :oops:

Do you fluff your KGD? And remove the outer layers? I spend way too much time perfecting my wicks, I do that in all my tanks, but the results are always excellent, for both wicking and flavor. I cut about .5-1", remove outer layers, roll it then insert it. I then spend lots of time fluffing it using tweezers, then cut to length and I'm good to go. Never ever a dry hit.
Although I do have some kgd, I rarely use it , but when I do, I don't peel the top or bottom, I just cut a strip about 3 times the diameter of coil tighten one end and slide it through, once it's through just fluff up a bit , but nothing special. Now I have to say there are a few different types of ... cotton so that works for me with the one I have. Now my wife just ordered the egrip and it came with some ... cotton that was quite different to my stuff, her stuff was alot more dense and not as white as mine and had alot more spots in it. I haven't used that stuff yet, so don't know if it would work the same. Rayon, easy also, just pinch a piece, point one end and slide, after slide, slightly fluff. I use 26g so I don't twist the wick as I slide, like what some do using a thinner wire as to not disturb the coil

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Sorry vapingblues, I didn't realize you were asking ottefrep..

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No problem. I order a big bag of KGD from Amazon, 80 sheets for about $12, lasts me and my gf at least a year, that's even after giving away a few sheets to some friends.
 
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No problem. I order a big bag of KGD from Amazon, 80 sheets for about $12, lasts me and my gf at least a year, that's even after giving away a few sheets to some friends.
Thanks............. I hear you, when I first heard about rayon, I could only find this box, this box is huge and now a year or so later I haven't made a dent in it. Seriously, if this stuff doesn't have a shelf life, it will last me like 20 years. And it was like 10 bucks or something!

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Was that like a buffed flat Clapton or something? Coil art for sure, and a fancy bottle of e juice

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I don't know what that was. I first thought he was doing a clapton then I thought it was ribbon. It's somewhere between the two. And that juice looked like blood. Not sure I could vape that. I'm kind of betting his vape doesn't taste better than my basic kanthal build. :)
 

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I don't know what that was. I first thought he was doing a clapton then I thought it was ribbon. It's somewhere between the two. And that juice looked like blood. Not sure I could vape that. I'm kind of betting his vape doesn't taste better than my basic kanthal build. :)
I think those perform better at major wattages but for an rta, like you said, about the same as regular wire. Sure was pretty though

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So bronze, as you know I loved my kfl and if they had 2mm airflow , I would be still vaping them. Besides more airflow and obviously a smaller profile, would you say the vape is similar to the kfl? Can you notice any difference in TH and general heat?

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So bronze, as you know I loved my kfl and if they had 2mm airflow , I would be still vaping them. Besides more airflow and obviously a smaller profile, would you say the vape is similar to the kfl? Can you notice any difference in TH and general heat?

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The KM3 is every bit as good a vape as the KFL. I like a tight draw so I haven't tested the airflow only to know it offers more airflow than the KFLs. It's a slightly warmer vape but not a lot. Plenty of TH. If yuo liked the KFLs you will like the KM3. It's an excellent rta. So easy to fill which offsets the smaller capacity.
 

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The KM3 is every bit as good a vape as the KFL. I like a tight draw so I haven't tested the airflow only to know it offers more airflow than the KFLs. It's a slightly warmer vape but not a lot. Plenty of TH. If yuo liked the KFLs you will like the KM3. It's an excellent rta. So easy to fill which offsets the smaller capacity.
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