SX Zero 50w Clone

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Nikkita6

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Thanks for the quick review Nicole I wished I lived in the States for the vapegear! ;) Your SX Mini review was the best yet! :)

You are welcome, and thank you so much hun :).. Its a shame that shipping costs are so high from the US to UK, shouldn't we have some type of agreement between countries that makes shipping free? I can relate to your plight a bit because sometimes there are things that I want that only happen to be available in UK shops, like the Taifun GT 2 when I was thinking of getting the authentic, but the US dollar sucks and the rate of exchange is painful :cry: :laugh:

In other news .. Eachely alerted me to some new news about yet another SX Zero variation they have come up with. They sent me a picture so I will come back with more details later and explain. Eachely specifically asked me to put the feelers out and reply with feedback about consumers reactions so, I hope at least a few posters/lurkers will be around later. :)
 

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I'm dying to know as well.

His listing now has a 2nd "update" and reads:
UPDATE #2: DO NOT BE FOOLED BY OTHERS SELLING A SIMILAR ITEM. ASK THEM IF THERE'S IS MADE BY HOTCIG. IF IT IS, IT IS NOT AN AUTHENTIC ORIGINAL CHIP BUT A POORLY MADE COPY. OUR UNITS ARE NOT HOTCIG. THEY HAVE ORIGINAL AUTHENTIC YiHi CHIP.

Zero Modz Style SX 50W SX350 Chip 7 50 Watt Variable Wattage G Sensor | eBay

While I'll not let my hopes get too high, I do know the authentic chip will fit... and I really REALLY want this to be true!!! I was thinking of just getting the focalcig one and swapping the chip when/if it died :2cool:

Please let us know what he says and if it seems legit, I may have to be the guinea pig! :laugh:


That listing is one big fat lie, so do not believe anything that this Ebay seller, who also goes by another vendor name is saying because they are lying and attempting to slander to Hotcig out of revenge ... that is all. You did notice the blue and white Eachely sticker on the front of redwood inner housing didn't you? :blink:
 

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You are smack on ZeroOhm, the true source of these chips have been previously verified and thank you for providing further proof of the chips source ... This Ebay seller, which is not that unfamiliar to us (wink wink) HAS AN AGENDA ... Some people don't do well with being publicly humiliated, as well as passed over behind the scenes.

But every dog has it's day :D

Nice reply! looks like its down to your own judgement! The hotcig chips from what I could tell (as I have never seen a real Yihi board were not available to modders or the general public) were real, board analysis of components used and board design were all consistent with a design made by YiHi. Just to say not one dna clone board has the same design as an evolv board all are reversed engineered and use other components and board design.

Authentic YiHi SX350 60W Chip!

It may possibly be YiHi have fire sold SX350s given the movement in the vaping market and are dumping stock I can't wait to see a real review of one which will most probably not happen (a real teardown, hires board pictures and verified firmware not to mention output voltages) I have been vaping SX350s boards (30W before any firmware updates) since March 2013 so i would know exactly if it was a real one.

Varitube are selllng SX350s for $70 plus the mod and thats a loss for us in the UK and USA its China anything is possible but so is the misinformation, trickery and its business after all (No racism I am 50% Chinese myself)

It amuses me sellers advertise vapegear with pictures & specs that are not of the actual vapegear they are selling ;) It's like selling a house online then when you get there the seller says it's this one! ;)

Vaping from China is like the wild west you pay your money and roll the dice!

Just had a look at the listing, here the UK you only buy from ebay if you have money to burn ;)

UPDATE #2: DO NOT BE FOOLED BY OTHERS SELLING A SIMILAR ITEM. ASK THEM IF THERE'S IS MADE BY HOTCIG.

(The build is very good apart from the sleeve fitting and iffy soldering common with china) IF IT IS, IT IS NOT AN AUTHENTIC ORIGINAL CHIP BUT A POORLY MADE COPY (Believe who you want there;)

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(Where are they made? NO description) OUR UNITS ARE NOT HOTCIG. THEY HAVE ORIGINAL AUTHENTIC YiHi CHIP. (Why if this is true have all SX350s been @ 60W for 6 months!)

The New Zero Sx 50W Mod: 50 watts of intelligent vaping power in the smart and sexy style of stainless steel with additional decorative sleeves available. G-Sensor for easy wattage adjustment without the need for extra buttons . Memory function and adjustable in 0.1W increments.

Features:

Made from 304 grade Stainless steel (frame) Phenolic material (inner housing) Sandblasted SS !!! (Did only the Yosen DNAs come with sandblasted sleeves?) have (removable sleeve)
Decorative Sleeves available separately (Where who makes them?! :))
Gravity sensor adjusts power automatically: 7.0-50.0W in 0.1W increments
Voltage output 3.7-11.0 volts (!!!!!!!!!! SX350 has buck and boost so 1-9.5V)
Atomizer resistance .3-3.5ohms (!!!!!!!! SX350 fires at .15)
Adjustable Spring Loaded 510 center pin made of copper (Copper will last a week if its not brass)
Pass-Though Capability (!!!!!!!! SX350 is not pass through!)
Screen size: 0.66" OLED
Uses 18650 batteries (Not Included)
Size: 82.5mm x 45mm x 25mm

More than 10 available / 16 sold

Thats a nice cash cow! Can't wait to see, no sample you are going of what some excellent english speaking chinese sales rep has told you;) This one is even more interesting than waiting for the SX350J
 

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ZeroOhm, yes, the hard part of changing the 510 is going to be tapping the SS frame. I have access to a machine shop so will be taking advantage of that. I'm waiting on one new mod rigt now and then will get it done. I do think my Yosen Zero is my prettiest mod. However, with what this cost me, plus chip and 510, I could have had another SX Mini. But, I bought it, its here, and I may as well make it a good mod.
 

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Originally Posted by jbarrick View Post
Email sent to EBay seller:

There is a discussion ecf forums about your Zero Mod having an authentic SX 350 chip. The pictures and specs don't add up to a sx350 chip. "on the last pic i see a sticker, and that sticker is from hotcig ( on wood below 510 connector)."
Can you verify this is a authentic SX 350 chip with a picture of the chip? Love this mod.

Thanks

Reply from EBay seller:

Dear monkeybizzness01,

This is NOT a hotcig model. The pic is not accurate and taken of a hotcig. But the look is exactly the same. The new models have just left the mfg to me today and are on the way. Once i receive i will update with the actual pics.

And yes, it is an authentic SX-350 chip. Not the fake sx-300 chip that hotcig uses. I used to sell the hotcig until they were caught lying about their chip. And delivery. I was then able to find this manufacturer with much better quality.

I would NOT list a fake or mislead in any way. Especially on eBay which is ALL pro-buyer. You can see I am a powerseller and 100% positive feedback. The last thing I would do is misrepresent an item.

Be assured, I know it sounds too good to be true, but this IS a real YiHi SX350 chip. And a steal at this price considering the units out there with a fake SX300 and the build quality of them. If you are unhappy with the unit in any way shape or form, we will gladly take it back for a full refund.

- crash944

My reply to crash944 (ebay seller):

I am no expert but I have 2 SX Zero Modz 50W clone from Focalecig, Eachely (Hotcig) arriving in a few days. $82.58 SX Zero Modz 50W clone

Give me one unit at half price (below your cost obviously) and I will compare and review your SX350 version, post it on the forum and put it up on Youtube.

Until then: If a deal is to good to be true, it isn't
 

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Ok people .. so in the wee hours of the morning Eachely skypes me with this ...

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At first I am excited because I thought they were telling me the Wood Zero was done, but when I looked closely it was errrr .. different. :blink: The above is a PMMA sample they have created. So of course I panic because I think they are telling me that they are no longer doing the Wood Zero, but they are. They are making the Wood and this PMMA SX Zero.

I asked why? They said it was because production would be slow and limited on the Wood SX, while they could churn out the PMMA wood looking body much faster, so they plan to offer and sell both. I also think this was knee jerk reaction to Yosen's SX in acrylic, kind of their answer to that, but that is my own speculation.

I can't speak for anyone else but I don't really want a PMMA SX Zero, most especially for the same price :laugh: But I told them I would share their photo and let them know what people thought of it ... Errr, your turn :laugh:
 

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When booted up this says SX 300, and it's only 35 watts.

It's what it says I ordered.... FT - fast tech, authentic? dunno.

https://www.fasttech.com/p/2000200


Guess I'm in the wrong thread. LOL

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Fasttech only had the 35W Zero, not the 50W .. to answer your question please see ZeroOhm's photos with the Yihi receipt in it. :)
 

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I can't speak for anyone else but I don't really want a PMMA SX Zero, most especially for the same price :laugh: But I told them I would share their photo and let them know what people thought of it ... Errr, your turn :laugh:

I like the fit of the material against the frame edge, as seen in the pic. I thought a lot of the clones looked too roughly made and wouldn't buy them for that reason.
If they can maintain that quality then I would consider this over the cloupor mini. These two are my choices right now. I would buy the wood model over any other IF there was product to buy. if they are going to use a composite plastic then make sure the parts all line up and people will ignore what it's made of because the mod itself works good. Maybe put out special editions (of other materials) as they get product made along the way.

I am waiting to buy one of these. If it matters. My opinion: just get something reliable to market. NO OFFENCE meant to any retailer or manufacturer but not being able to buy when the buyer is ready is annoying and makes people look at other products.
 

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Originally Posted by jbarrick View Post
Email sent to EBay seller:

There is a discussion ecf forums about your Zero Mod having an authentic SX 350 chip. The pictures and specs don't add up to a sx350 chip. "on the last pic i see a sticker, and that sticker is from hotcig ( on wood below 510 connector)."
Can you verify this is a authentic SX 350 chip with a picture of the chip? Love this mod.

Thanks



My reply to crash944 (ebay seller):

I am no expert but I have 2 SX Zero Modz 50W clone from Focalecig, Eachely (Hotcig) arriving in a few days. $82.58 SX Zero Modz 50W clone

Give me one unit at half price (below your cost obviously) and I will compare and review your SX350 version, post it on the forum and put it up on Youtube.

Until then: If a deal is to good to be true, it isn't

Ebay sellers response:


Dear monkeybizzness01,

So, I just read that thread & see your/my quote as well as the non-believers. Got a bit of a chuckle I must say. You want to report me as a fraud? Why because I am selling a superior product? And "Cotay" He's the only ignorant one as he is making a comment without having any knowledge of the product or actually seeing one.

Guess the world we live in makes us a bit cynical. Perhaps I should increase my price an additional $25 then more people with believe me? :)

Or even better, as I am not deceiving anyone here..... Since "ZeroOhm" seems to be the expert over there, have him contact me on the listing. I will give him one unit at half price (below my cost obviously) and he pays the global shipping costs as well as duties (if any). It will be worth it just in laughs. What an added bonus it will be knowing that when he posts his pictures and reviews no one will EVER buy a Hotcig unit again!

- crash944

Another item by the same seller DNA 40 w/ Temperature Control 40 Watt

They have cloned the Evolv DNA 40 chip
 
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Nikki, I'm likely to only buy a real wood one or another with the removeable sleeve like I have. The composite looks pretty decent, actually, and might be very strong. Price will also have a big influence on my decisions. So far from what I see of Yosen's acrylic, the price point is pushing it. Eacheley's pricing is yet unknown so its hard for me to say at this time.
 

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I like the fit of the material against the frame edge, as seen in the pic. I thought a lot of the clones looked too roughly made and wouldn't buy them for that reason.
If they can maintain that quality then I would consider this over the cloupor mini. These two are my choices right now. I would buy the wood model over any other IF there was product to buy. if they are going to use a composite plastic then make sure the parts all line up and people will ignore what it's made of because the mod itself works good. Maybe put out special editions (of other materials) as they get product made along the way.

I am waiting to buy one of these. If it matters. My opinion: just get something reliable to market. NO OFFENCE meant to any retailer or manufacturer but not being able to buy when the buyer is ready is annoying and makes people look at other products.

I agree with that ... What is the point of announcing something to market if its going to take a year a day to get to the market? I will ask what if any other colors in PMMA they might be planning on ... I might not be mad at a dark dark Red one :D
 

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Nikki, I'm likely to only buy a real wood one or another with the removeable sleeve like I have. The composite looks pretty decent, actually, and might be very strong. Price will also have a big influence on my decisions. So far from what I see of Yosen's acrylic, the price point is pushing it. Eacheley's pricing is yet unknown so its hard for me to say at this time.

Yeah the wood is the one I really want, but as I said above if they can do deep red in PMMA I might be game for that also. I did ask about price, and was told "around the same", which IMO it shouldn't be. They have opened to this idea of PMMA because they can machine it faster and produce more, but I would like to think that it also costs them less, so ...
 

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Ebay sellers response:


Dear monkeybizzness01,

So, I just read that thread & see your/my quote as well as the non-believers. Got a bit of a chuckle I must say. You want to report me as a fraud? Why because I am selling a superior product? And "Cotay" He's the only ignorant one as he is making a comment without having any knowledge of the product or actually seeing one.

Guess the world we live in makes us a bit cynical. Perhaps I should increase my price an additional $25 then more people with believe me? :)

Or even better, as I am not deceiving anyone here..... Since "ZeroOhm" seems to be the expert over there, have him contact me on the listing. I will give him one unit at half price (below my cost obviously) and he pays the global shipping costs as well as duties (if any). It will be worth it just in laughs. What an added bonus it will be knowing that when he posts his pictures and reviews no one will EVER buy a Hotcig unit again!

- crash944

Another item by the same seller DNA 40 w/ Temperature Control 40 Watt

They have cloned the Evolv DNA 40 chip

For the record, I think what you are doing by passing this forum discussion on to this seller and doing all this reporting back is totally unnecessary, and a bit messy. If you are interested in their product but are doubtful, then have your own private discussions with that seller about it and make your own choice. But forcing the rest of us into this back and forth is rather inconsiderate of you.

No one comes here every day to be involved in some petty tit for tat drama with an Ebay seller, and it is not right for you to impose this nonsense back and forth on the rest of us who don't really care. There is no reason for an Ebay seller to be discussing and calling out members of this forum by name, which you are the cause of.
 

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I like the fit of the material against the frame edge, as seen in the pic. I thought a lot of the clones looked too roughly made and wouldn't buy them for that reason.
If they can maintain that quality then I would consider this over the cloupor mini. These two are my choices right now. I would buy the wood model over any other IF there was product to buy. if they are going to use a composite plastic then make sure the parts all line up and people will ignore what it's made of because the mod itself works good. Maybe put out special editions (of other materials) as they get product made along the way.

I am waiting to buy one of these. If it matters. My opinion: just get something reliable to market. NO OFFENCE meant to any retailer or manufacturer but not being able to buy when the buyer is ready is annoying and makes people look at other products.
I just want one too [emoji24] I saw when they had 14 but had my heart set on a wood one so I held off. Wasn't too big a fan of their acrylic they're going to release, I'd rather have the ss between the two.

Kind of eyeing the sx mini, but at the price point it's a bit high for me, and on top of that they may have another model with their temp control chip they're coming out in may.

Decisions decisions. I only really wanted to pick up one regulated box mod haha.. Gosh, I hope I understood this entire thread correctly haha. Here's to hoping they put out more stock soon. Pardon in advance for any confusion. I'm new.

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For the record, I think what you are doing by passing this forum discussion on to this seller and doing all this reporting back is totally unnecessary, and a bit messy. If you are interested in their product but are doubtful, then have your own private discussions with that seller about it and make your own choice. But forcing the rest of us into this back and forth is rather inconsiderate of you.

No one comes here every day to be involved in some petty tit for tat drama with an Ebay seller, and it is not right for you to impose this nonsense back and forth on the rest of us who don't really care. There is no reason for an Ebay seller to be discussing and calling out members of this forum by name, which you are the cause of.

For the record I did not pass anything on to the seller from this this forum. He read it here not pasted on by me.

"forcing the rest of us into this back and forth is rather inconsiderate of you. " How have I FORCED anyone to read my posts? How is any of this inconsiderate of me? It is on topic after all. Just because your agenda is to help FC sell more product, talking about "What is the point of announcing something to market if its going to take a year a day to get to the market?"

Remember when you shot me down when you were telling everyone how great the Kayfun V4 by RobbotTech? Turns out you were wrong, not worth the extra profit FC on that one.

Would it be safe to assume you are speaking for everyone, or is this just your opinion? There are others here that asked me to let them know what he said.

Inconsiderate, I don't think so. But who are you to judge me or anyone else?? You did not start this thread, Roxy did. Did Roxy appoint you as the JUDGE?

Well don't worry JUDGE Nikkita I will let you dictate your opinions in peace. I will not post any more where you are involved.

Judge the post not the poster:admin::grr:
 
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For the record I did not pass anything on to the seller from this this forum. He read it here not pasted on by me.

"forcing the rest of us into this back and forth is rather inconsiderate of you. " How have I FORCED anyone to read my posts? How is any of this inconsiderate of me? It is on topic after all. Just because your agenda is to help FC sell more product, talking about "What is the point of announcing something to market if its going to take a year a day to get to the market?"

Remember when you shot me down when you were telling everyone how great the Kayfun V4 by RobbotTech? Turns out you were wrong, not worth the extra profit FC on that one.

Would it be safe to assume you are speaking for everyone, or is this just your opinion? There are others here that asked me to let them know what he said.

Inconsiderate, I don't think so. But who are you to judge me or anyone else?? You did not start this thread, Roxy did. Did Roxy appoint you as the JUDGE?

Well don't worry JUDGE Nikkita I will let you dictate your opinions in peace. I will not post any more where you are involved.

Judge the post not the poster:admin::grr:


Just my :2c:, I am curious how the ebay thing works out. :)
 
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