Terminator/Nautilus/Choddy/Oddy Clone Pics, Tip,Tricks and Quirks

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My ody v2 always had the positive pin a little off center and so does my term c as I have just noticed this. Does this really cause an issue, not seeing any as of yet. I think it happens when the locking ring is tightened on the rebuildable part against the base, it was fine as I screwed it into the base paying attention to how far I had it sticking out the 510 but the above comment made me go look and sure enough now it's a little .... eyed. There is no play in it what so ever though cause I tightened the center pin really good, that was an issue with the original too, always came loose trying to undo the positive lead at rebuild time...shouldnt anymore cause it seams the oring pushed out from under the nut allowing it to seat tight against the ceramic but also still sealing around the center post against the side of the ceramic if that makes sense. I think the oring they included in the ceramic is a bit too big imo.
 

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So here we are 24 hours into getting my Term c built and filled the same way I did my Ody v2 and not one leak, gurgle or stuck air bubble thanks to the wonderful tips in this forum, I'm in love with this rba!! I left my juice control open all night and layed on its side, not one drop of juice leaked. AMAZING QUALITY PRODUCT!!!! fwiw I'm using cov 3mm wick with cheap silver nr wire from micheals craft store here in Canada, the way I do it is the same as Igetcha with the double wick setup but for the negative lead I like to trap it under the nut....I know your saying that the wrong way but here is how to do it without having it leak.


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First take your wicks and hold them in front of you as if your going to wrap them with your made up coil, I make my coils with pliers an wind them really tight so they make really good contact to the res/nres. Cut the tails of the joints so they are 2mm long. Now imagine the wicks are in your hand and your holding them in front of you to wrap the wick, here is the secret, most people will start wrapping the coil by placing the start of coil in between your thumb and wick then in a clockwise wrap over top of the wick and around. I do it opposite to that, I place the coil in between my index finger and the wick on the back side of the wick as you are looking at it and wrap it towards me over the top in a counter clockwise so that if you look at it the negative lead ends up being in the front of the wick and the positive on the back. Now I do this because I like trapping the lead under the nut to maintain a stable ohm setting when using this and found that just running it in the channel will yield varied ohm results through out the day especially if you are using your juice control. The reason behind wrapping the coil this way so that when you take the negative lead and trap it under the nut to make the connection it wont choke the wick off when you snug the nut down, hope that make sense. Now back to the process lol, you want to trap the positive lead first like usual, then take the negative lead that is now set up coming out from under the nut like the v1 did, wrap one full turn around the entire term c rebuildable part under the nut(have the nut tightened so you can just fit the non res under it while wrapping) until you get back to where you started from and over lap 1mm so that the nut itself stays level. Makes a pretty damn good seal since it will now be even all the way around with the nut tightened down instead of having air channels from just taking it directly out of the channel and trapping it which will cause leaks. When that nut gets tightened and you wrap it the way I said not to do it, otherwise known as the standard way to wrap lol, it will choke the wick out as the nut us tightened, this way it will not affect the wick at all and I get extremely stable coils with no leaks or dry hits. I open my juice control about 1mm and leave it, never a leak, maybe a .1 ohm jump here and there but it is perfect just like it was on my ody v2. I know this is probably very hard to understand and next rebuild I will try to take pictures and add them to this post if this is not clear for you guys.

Edit: I did forget to mention that the nut/ring that retains the negative in my build has a flatter surface side than the other side of it, I made sure that the flatter side was facing down onto the base section rather than up to the mouthpiece. Take a look closely at it next time you have the ring off and you will see what I mean, the mouthpiece seals great against the thinner flat surface still. I think it is just the way the tapping bit puts more of a counter sink on the ring/nut.
 
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Thanks guys, I actually was pretty excited to bring something useful to the table. Hope it works well for anyone trying it, mines still going strong and havent had to touch my juice control once. I'm about 3/4 through the first tank and my wick is now getting nice and broken it, its perfect. I did a little test to see if it was leaking and when I close my juice control off and suck through the mouthpiece there are no bubbles coming from anywhere.
 

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I just built a beautiful(looking and performing) wick and coil Monday night. 3mm ekowool with several strands removed and a 1.5 ready wire. I'll be trying this on Friday when my second term c shows up.

I purchased the ready made wire also - so you find this wire to be of just as good performing as other wires? I heard it was of a sub quality. I have 2mm wool and 3mm wool so i will give this a go when my herc and term arrive (hopefully today).
 

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Ready wires would help wicking too for some people because there is less mass to deal with depending on the build. When I first bought my gg Ody it came with premade wicks which cov never has in stk and it was so much easier to deal with, no worries where it lands basically. Might try some ekowool soon but I still have a good 12 feet of 3mm silica so it may be a while.
 

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My ody v2 always had the positive pin a little off center and so does my term c as I have just noticed this. Does this really cause an issue, not seeing any as of yet. I think it happens when the locking ring is tightened on the rebuildable part against the base, it was fine as I screwed it into the base paying attention to how far I had it sticking out the 510 but the above comment made me go look and sure enough now it's a little .... eyed. There is no play in it what so ever though cause I tightened the center pin really good, that was an issue with the original too, always came loose trying to undo the positive lead at rebuild time...shouldnt anymore cause it seams the oring pushed out from under the nut allowing it to seat tight against the ceramic but also still sealing around the center post against the side of the ceramic if that makes sense. I think the oring they included in the ceramic is a bit too big imo.

Thanks for the input.

I wish the center post was only a little off center, that I could deal with. Mine is enough off center that I feel it would take very little pressure to short it out against the inside wall of the 510 connector. I never got the Term-C working consistently on my ProVari, but I am not sure if that is the off center post or the ProVari just being a finicky.

I have tried just about everything to get the post more centered, I am convinced it has something to do with the nut inside the ceramic cup sitting on an o-ring and the o-ring not being compressed equally as the center post is tightened. I have been unable to prove this as without the o-ring I can't get the post tight enough to test.


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I didn't remember that o-ring in any of the videos that I had watched on the Term-C or the Ody. I just looked at the exploded drawing of the Ody on the GG wiki and it doesn't show an o-ring there.

I think when it needs a rebuild, I might try to leave the o-ring out.


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I didn't remember that o-ring in any of the videos that I had watched on the Term-C or the Ody. I just looked at the exploded drawing of the Ody on the GG wiki and it doesn't show an o-ring there.

I think when it needs a rebuild, I might try to leave the o-ring out.


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For sure the v2 Oddy and v2 Terminator/Nautilus have an o-ring under the nut inside the ceramic.
I would leave it out also.
 

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I purchased the ready made wire also - so you find this wire to be of just as good performing as other wires? I heard it was of a sub quality. I have 2mm wool and 3mm wool so i will give this a go when my herc and term arrive (hopefully today).


It's the only wire I've used for term c builds so I can't really compare it to anything else. The only negative thing I have to say about it is occasionally one of the welds can come loose which is a pain. Only happened to me twice though.

Another positive thing about them is no matter what crazy thing I'm wrapping that coil around(I messed around with a lot of different wicks) it will always be 1.5 or 1.8 depending on which wire I'm using.
 

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It's the only wire I've used for term c builds so I can't really compare it to anything else. The only negative thing I have to say about it is occasionally one of the welds can come loose which is a pain. Only happened to me twice though.

Another positive thing about them is no matter what crazy thing I'm wrapping that coil around(I messed around with a lot of different wicks) it will always be 1.5 or 1.8 depending on which wire I'm using.
Are these the ready wires from Stormy's?
 

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So are those ready wires long enough for the ithaka?
Just barely, I've been twisting an inch or so of nickel to the ends. I'm not sure if I'll buy more but it's nice not to have to deal with a splice up on top.
If they stuck some 30 gauge in the middle we'd have it
 
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