Terminator/Nautilus/Choddy/Oddy Clone Pics, Tip,Tricks and Quirks

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IcyX

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Nice!!! I'm going to have to try the cotton wick thing out. I'm a big fan of using a 1.5 ohm 28ga coil in my term with hybrid wicks (1.5mm reg silica sleeved in 2mm ekowool) it gives an awesome result. I can chain vape nonstop and it just won't quit. Can you give us some tips on how to get a nice uniform wick using rolled cotton plz maybe a quick vid on how to cut and form it as well as threading it through the coil plz.


Ithaka with 28 gauge NiChrome and rolled sterile cotton @ 0.6 ohms
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Would like to share a setup that I have been using since mid to late junk that has been working exceptionally well for me. It seemed like when I chain vaped with the small 32ga coils I was using my juice was burning. so I started thinking, why is this stuff burning up so bad? The answer I came up with: too much heat in a small area of wick, not enough juice in wick, wick not transporting juice to coil fast enough, too low of a resistance/too much current running through coil. So I followed dw's advice on which bits to use to Dremel the channels out on my v1 style ceramic assemblies and tried just using more wick with the same 32 ga wire. I did not get the results I was looking for. So I was thinking how to spread the heat out, and a wick that would hold lots of juice and take high heat. Here's what I tried:

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I took 2mm ekowool and used it as sleeving over some twisted silica that came w my tobeco cody. I then used some 28ga that I had kicking around to wind a pretty decent size coil around a drill bit and inserted the "hybrid" wick. Oh da lolly what a vape. With my reg juice that doesn't burn no matter what I throw at it the coil behaved great. It takes a pretoot (yes that is a technical term lol) or two for the coil wick to warm up but after that first one or two toots I can chain vape the thing until the tank runs dry or the batteries die in one sitting w/o any kind of burnt taste, dry hit, any trouble whatsoever. I also have gotten almost a month of use on the same coil wick setup without rinsing it and dry burning it. When I open up my term filled with Adams accident the coil looks like I've barely used it even after a month. Now I'm not a light vaper. I chain vape like I chain smoked, all day long. The only reason I took the first coil out was to change flavors of juice as I ran out of Adams. After a month it def could have used a dry burn as I had run the tank dry a couple times and lets face it after a month and countless tankfuls in long mode with no cleaning it had a little crud on it, but it was still performing very well and I would have kept using it if I didn't run out of that flavor.

But here's the kicker, with this setup I've been enjoying a cooler vape, so I thought I'd try a juice that burned easily and it actually worked very well. I like dark honey tobacco with wta when I get a bad craving for analogs. It's not often only once in a blue moon now. While I love this juice it burns easy, tastes like crap if it burns in a wick/coil, is thick, and leaves a lot of residue on the coil. I tried dripping it but it always burns up quick on me in my igo-L or Phoenix. I had been only using it in carto tanks as those seemed to give me the best results with the least amount burntness. The larger gauge wire, with the larger size wick, in the larger channels worked awesome! After a tank full of that stuff I cleaned the wick and tried another juice that I could only vape in cartos raging ....h from roar. Again I was shocked as it didn't burn the juice. Here's a pic of the coil installed

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Looks a lot like dw's cotton/28ga setup I just quoted so I'm guessing I'm prob not the first to think this up (but I can dream right lol). I'm merely passing on something that has been working extremely well for me. I get great flavor and huge clouds with this setup. The wick can take a beating, and I can vape juice that always burned up on me. Now to conquer my ithaka, the only juice I put in there that didn't burn up w 32ga coils was pluid. Can't wait to try 28ga 1.5 ohm coils in the ithaka. On a side note I read someone say they had friends that would punch a nun for pluid. I didn't understand why so I got some to try. First vape of pluid un steeped: yuk! second vape 20 min later: yuk, no way! 10 min later I couldn't put the stuff down it went from using it in a dripper, to my tobeco, then to my ithaka. I'm catholic so I know as long as I repent I can punch a nun for some also lol. Disclaimer: No nuns were punched in my obtaining pluid lol
 

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I hear you chadsmo (4 terminators here). The Spotty V1 Ww arrived about a week ago for me. It was in customs for 1.5 months! US Postal didn't have a clue where it was. I'd call them and they'd remind me, "well registered mail IS the slow method, meh...". I'm like you are the slow method. They even "opened an investigation".... "we'll definitely call you in a couple days..." NOT! Then one day, after I've given up hope, the mail carrier delivers a random package from Germany but it's for another person who lives in another house. The address number happened to be the same as mine, and the box is torn open. A couple hours later same mail carrier shows up with my package & an IRS "sign for". Same delivery person returns twice in one day to deliver packages, now that's efficient! I gave her the package from Germany which I repaired due to the tape shortage at US Postal.

Of course you're waiting to have the TSAF built first!

So I've been screwing around with the wire welder. and I must say it's more difficult than I thought it would be. My first shots were fired on AWG30 Silver and AWG32 Kanthal since that's what I have gobs of. For some reason I have a hard time getting the second weld as secure as the first & in general the silver breaks off during wrapping. So I ordered AWG30 Nickle, which BTW came overnight incidentally. It definitely sticks better, but still seems like I'm having trouble on the second weld much of the time. Seems it's helpful to wash the wire before welding. I also need to figure how to weld res-to-res...

PS- chadsmo My Daughter just came back from BC - she said it was beautiful and could not believe how nice everyone was.
 
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I'm pretty sure I've been having a problem with both creating a good NR-R connection with ribbon wire, and cleaning the Nautilus. It's been pretty troublesome for me, as I have yet to have gotten a good vape from the thing since I've gotten it. I'm going to try stainless on top right now.

EDIT: I have given up on my Oddy clone for now. Flooding galore. This would be attempt number 5. It has me stumped. I have an Ithaka clone on the way, and I'm hesitant to even try to build anything on it.
 
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I'm pretty sure I've been having a problem with both creating a good NR-R connection with ribbon wire, and cleaning the Nautilus. It's been pretty troublesome for me, as I have yet to have gotten a good vape from the thing since I've gotten it. I'm going to try stainless on top right now.

EDIT: I have given up on my Oddy clone for now. Flooding galore. This would be attempt number 5. It has me stumped. I have an Ithaka clone on the way, and I'm hesitant to even try to build anything on it.

I was having a TERRIBLE time with the Oddy clone from silicawicks.com (not a slam on them, I'm very happy with my purchasing experience). I found the rubber grommet that is supposed to seal the ceramic and the positive post had split. I think I over-tightened it trying to get the positive post to stick out 1mm like Todd did in his review. This caused awful, awful flooding and leaking into my mod. What finally fixed it was making an insulator out of automotive vacuum hard line so the positive post wouldn't make contact with the ceramic's carrier, then using the spare little "o" ring between the positive post and the carrier. Once I got the sealing taken care of, I've had no further problems with flooding. I use 28g Kanthal with hot legs (for the LIFE of me, can't get the nr r nr thing down).
 

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Joining 28g can be a little tricky , but not impossible.
For me, even trying to join the 32g was tough. I'm getting good results with the "long" 28g micro-coils though I still play every once-in-a-while. Glad I got the full kit, I've got plenty of NR wire to go through:)
 

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For me, even trying to join the 32g was tough. I'm getting good results with the "long" 28g micro-coils though I still play every once-in-a-while. Glad I got the full kit, I've got plenty of NR wire to go through:)

Here's my technique for joining wire that works well for me.

Cross the wires over and twist about 1/4 inch or so together very tightly. Then just give them a good tug in opposite directions to make sure the start of the twist where they meet is very tight.

Now what I'll do is grab the twisted part very firmly with my pliers leaving around 1mm of the twisted part exposed. Using the pliers as a surface to wrap against ill wrap the NR wire around the other one about 4-5 times, and every half of a wrap I make sure to pull it very tightly.

At that point you can cut off the excess right at the little knot that it creates. I've personally found this technique very effective and quite easy. I recoil my devices way more that I probably have to and I have three attys that need NR wire setups, and I've never had an issue doing it as I described. You can pull on the wire with more than enough force to wrap it and secure it to the atty.
 

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Here's my technique for joining wire that works well for me.

Cross the wires over and twist about 1/4 inch or so together very tightly. Then just give them a good tug in opposite directions to make sure the start of the twist where they meet is very tight.

Now what I'll do is grab the twisted part very firmly with my pliers leaving around 1mm of the twisted part exposed. Using the pliers as a surface to wrap against ill wrap the NR wire around the other one about 4-5 times, and every half of a wrap I make sure to pull it very tightly.

At that point you can cut off the excess right at the little knot that it creates. I've personally found this technique very effective and quite easy. I recoil my devices way more that I probably have to and I have three attys that need NR wire setups, and I've never had an issue doing it as I described. You can pull on the wire with more than enough force to wrap it and secure it to the atty.

Thank you very much! I'll give it a go next time.

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hello ecf folks! kinda new here, and im now currently desperate on how to make my ody clone work. all it does is gurgle and i tend to sip the juice from it. yup, sip. i was wondering if it's the build, i think the coil doesnt heat enough for the juice to get atomized that's why i tend to have alot of spitbacks and flooded coils. any tips?
 
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