The 70W SuperMax from Artisan Vaping

[krnjbifo]

dice57.... Mature response???? Mature response!?!?!?!?!? I'm sitting here waiting four months and two weeks.

Well, with 4 months and 2 weeks of waiting for the device, I guess you may consider yourself to be pretty lucky - I haven't even gotten a shipping notification!

Last week I sent them emial asking about the estimated shipment date of my unit, paid in full Feb 13, 2014, but haven't gotten any response yet! So I suppose I'm not on the shipping list anytime soon...

But in the same time, they're accepting orders for the second round! Also, units paid in full "only" two weeks ago have already been shipped out (see comments on their FB page and here: Sergei Gol, Melvins...)!!!

Maybe someone doesn't call that kind of... creatures... thieves and liars, but that were the most polite words that I could find for them at the time - now I think they deserve much worse!

 

[SheerLuckHolmes]

For a complete sharing of information & my experience with The SuperMax and communication with Artisan & John. Sunday John returned a message I left him on the Artisan Facebook page. He gave me an email address to give him a description of my problem. I emailed him essentially what I have written in my previous posts on this thread and sent him a picture of the display screen. John responded by telling me he had never seen a single lighted dash on any of his testing of the SuperMax's he manufactures. Well now, don't I just feel special & unique.

He then gave me detailed instructions on how to open the SuperMax and disconnect the battery, leave it set disconnected for awhile and then reconnect the battery. This would reboot the chip and hopefully return the SuperMax to a functioning state. I followed his instructions and have just reconnected the battery. Immediately the SuperMax began signing at me. First time for that and a little flattering as if it was telling me I had done a good job.

Since that one light dash had been displaying for over 24 hours I feel that it might be a good idea to hook up the charging cord and the green light came on. First time seeing that light up as well. So before I do anything else I am going to allow it to sit there through the complete charging cycle before attempting anything further. While typing this, the tune playing thing happened again all on its own. Don't know what to think about that. But I am going to wait until the green light goes out before doing anything further.

Will keep you all updated as this progresses.

But I must say there is a huge sense of relief that things are moving forward. There is also appreciation for John getting back to me and his willingness to walk me though a possible solution. Since this event, according to John, is unique and never encountered by him personally & no one else has reported anything like it, it would seem that something odd happened to the chip in mine and the only solution would have been this reboot.

 

[BlutO]

This is actually pretty useful information. Disconnecting the battery reboots the chip.

I opened my case to see if the 510 connector could be adjusted up but it's epoxied in place and isn't going anywhere.

 

[dice57]

No doubt, good stuff. Know on the dna's sometime need to disconnect the batt to sort out signal glitches.

Was looking at my 510, and it may be possible to use like and set screw into the tip, like they do on the futura. Oh well, day 2 with the Max has been all good. Liking the quick power up or down with the click count. Personally prefer one button mods, after all, most of the time when I push the button, all I want is a vape. lmao.

 

[SheerLuckHolmes]

This is actually pretty useful information. Disconnecting the battery reboots the chip.

I opened my case to see if the 510 connector could be adjusted up but it's epoxied in place and isn't going anywhere.

Any regulated device that has onboard charging will behave this way. The bat must be disconnected or fully FULLY discharge the battery in order to reboot chip. All DNA reboot when switching out batteries, but like the Vapor Shark or DZ Nutz on board charging without removing batts you either disconnect or fully discharge.

I just didn't want to screw up SuperMax or it's warranty without direct instructions to do so from manufacturer

 

[SheerLuckHolmes]

SuperMax now fully charged. But there is nothing being displayed on the display at all. No lights, no numbers, nothing.

With the help of the instuructions Blut0 posted and the noice the device is now making I am able to navigate through the settings and vape via taste.

I've emailed John, we will have to see what the next step is.....

 

[BlutO]

Out of habit, I hit the fire button briefly and listen for a sizzle before using the device and unfortunately this is the voltage up sequence I have to run mine in locked mode to keep this from happening.

ETA: I went ahead and reset my chip to see if it would fix the resistance display issue. It didn't. Still reading - - on the Kayfun that's working. I tested it and it's a 1 ohm coil.

 

[SheerLuckHolmes]

John just got back to me saying he will be sending me a new unit, when it arrives he would like this one back. That's is the best news in this whole thing. Now I'll have to be signing the praises of John's customer service. Good for him and good for me. This might all work out after all. I'm feeling much better about all of this.

 

[dice57]

Anybody able to get there's to fire over 50 watts in VW mode? Mine maxes out at 50 watts.

 

[BlutO]

Basil said he's running a dual coil dripper at 50w on his. Haven't heard of anything higher yet. I've only gotten mine to 30+ but that was with a 1 ohm Kayfun and it was burny as hell

 

[dice57]

just built a 0.38 coil, Max read it as 0.34 ohms, and she pegs out at 50 watts no problem, switch to smoke on the water and she's cooking at 77 watts by my readings, 89 watts by Max's readings. Either way, pretty damn impressive. I'm focusing on builds within Maxes sweet spot, supposedly in voltage mode, max would output a max of 96 watts at 6 volt setting, that's a build of 0.375 ohms, and when you turn the crank, it's also the max amp output possible. So, shoot for 0.3-0.5 ohms, and one should be in the Maximum Overdrive Zone for S.Max.

 

[dice57]

I don't know about anybody else, but my atomizer center post height is really sensitive on my Max. So bad, if the screw is off by just 1/2 turn, Max won't fire, sometimes will get a teaser burn, but no vape. Out of all my attys that would consistently fire, it was the Taifun GS. Think because the screw can easily turn if get it to high, it just turns in with it. lol.

Any who, had a Rose with a 0.9 ohm build, so it should of fired, by golly, knowing it was 510 related, I turned the center post out to almost max, so the damn thing had to connect, no fire, finally used the TGS as a measure, and got the Rose adjusted to that level, holy Vape Clouds Vapman, there she Blows, vape that is, clouds, unintentional mind you, but clouds.

Don't know why, but with my Max, to tall, no call, to low, she no blows, Max only takes it just right. Going to call him Goldie Locks from now on. Guess will email John about it, see what he says.

Apparently though:

The first few units I sent out had a software limitation (only in VW mode) that limited them to 50W. If you want to vape above 50W, just use VV mode, as in that mode it puts out the maximum amount of power it can.

I do not test them with loads below 0.3 but it should work provided you keep below the 15A limit, however it is not guaranteed. The resistance meter will not read loads lower than 0.3 ohms. if you go above the 15A limit the regulator will think its a short circuit and shut down.

As far as the voltage limit is concerned, I found that at loads higher than about 1 ohm any setting higher than 5.5V would just sag anyways, so I
lowered the maximum output voltage to 5.5V so it would work over the entire spec'ed atomizer resistance range.

Actually, the maximum power it can output is 82.5 Watts (5.5V @ 15A), however this is only with the exact right atomizer resistance (0.36 ohms).

Buy the luck of the ohm meter accuracy overlords, my 0.40 ohm build reads as 0.36 ohms on Goldie Locks, so it appears I have one 82 watt capable build. lol.

 

[Melvins]

I am very interested to hear Basil's comments. Plesae post what you learn.

I talked with Basil tonight and he suggested I pass the thread to him and he can explain for himself his opinions on the Supermax. Look for his comments.

 

[BlutO]

I'll wait here with bated breath for Basil's sagelike insight

 

[dice57]

Well, have rebuilt both the Rose2 and the Russian with the exact same builds, both measuring 0.40 ohms on Max & dna30. Well the Rose measures 0,42, so only getting 72 watts, lol. I did my iV-twin coil, which is a long micro coil bent in half, forming an inverted V, /\. run a single wick through the middle and completely around the outside.

All I can say is, performing quite well. Seems to produce more vape at 5.5 volts than at 3.6. Kewl thing about these builds, is I can vape it on the dna, mech or max, and still get a damn fine vape. dna, will get me 30, mech shows 42, Max will push it at 75 and that's no jive. Well guess the Russian can do sub ohm quite nicely, and pushed at 75 watts, frak me if it don't hit like the missile rocket it looks like.

 

[Mikey-Mike]

waiting for mine to arrive....so excited! can't wait to vape regulated sub ohms!

 

[basilray]

I've had my SuperMax for nearly a month, and it's been going really well. Typically, I toss on my Veritas w/ around 0.5ohm dual coil builds, and set to 40 - 50w in VW mode. The battery life is pretty solid, and the performance seems to be fairly accurate. The only real testing I've done with it is using the ECD. Set to 50w at 0.3 ohm, the output was showing a bit high. At 0.5 ohm, it seems pretty accurate. I'm not sure the ECD was designed to handle such high amperage though, so don't take that testing as gospel. On a whim this weekend, I did set it to VV mode at the full 5.5v output. Worked just fine, and it's definitely putting out what I surmise is 68ish watts total to my 0.5ohm build. I haven't metered it out, but it's definitely warmer than my 40 - 5ow in VW.

The only problem I have had is a software fix relating to power-down and recharge, and John and I exchanged several emails yesterday about it.

In the end, the SuperMax has quickly made my DNA30's feel a bit obsolete. I'm very happy with it, especially at the price point. I'm excited to see what a few firmware revisions will get cleaned up for those who have had problems and future features.

If anyone gets a SuperMax and dislikes it...PM me. I'll buy it.

 

[blueGrassTubb]

What is the price point of this MOD?

 

[basilray]

What is the price point of this MOD?

I think it was $160?

 

[dice57]

I think it was $160?

That it was, well worth the price. Seems to be my most grabbed for mod. well, that and the stingray with an 0.2 and a magma with a 0.18 and the Tardis with Rose2. Let's just say Max is usually one of the three mods I grab when I go to work.