The Diketone free tested vendors list

[AngiBe]

I'd gladly trade my hot weather for whatever you've got.
But then again, I can stand outside in 40 degrees in a t-shirt and shorts.

In fact, when I spent time working in South Dakota for a couple of years...
I did exactly that when I was still smoking.


I'm on to Country Classic right now.
Not too impressed yet.

But steeping seems to be needed for all the MOV liquids.
I guess they are not pre-steeped?

I'm the exact opposite of you. I wear light jackets and sweatshirts when it's 80°. Oh, and use a space heater in my office all summer. Winter time...I'm dressed like an Eskimo! LOL

I read somewhere that the date the juice is made is on the bottle? And they do make them fresh I think so would explain needing steeping.

 

[MagnusEunson]

"Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in." ..

This is the place I want to re-enter the ECF fray - after three years off.

First up, good on @Dizzo and others for this and the other thread. Well played.

Now, my frustration is that even most of ~these~ vendors are doing a poor job of keeping it simple and transparent. Some nicquids covered, some not, some pages inconsistent, etc. For example the Max VG line of NicVape is excluded on their NicTrace page (at least in explanation), Nude Nicotine infers diketone-free without showing the results of that specifically but offering tests and showing everything else (along w/ being one of the labs The Clean Vape uses as reference), etc. etc.

So I was thinking if we had to break the available information down by specific juice, what would the information desired for each one?

Obviously:
- Name, product link
- Vendor, site link
- Proof of testing, link
- Category (e.g. Fruit, Tobacco, etc.)

Slightly less obvious:
- Breakdown by specific diketone concern?
- Include butyric acid?
- Testing lab?
- PG/VG ratio?
- Last test / ongoing tests?
- # of clearly tested nicquids per vendor (the idea presuming anything NOT included is untested as of that update)

Even less obvious:
- Link(s) to reviews on ECF
- Link(s) to all other reviews

Etc.

So the question is what is the minimum useful breakdown - what is the 'sweet spot' - and what is comprehensive to approaching overkill?

The end-state being a searchable / sortable listing for specifically the 'presumed safest' nicquids on the market specific to product and not just vendor. Link to current news covered on ECF related .. yada yada.

It can take a lot of effort to bootstrap something like this and then usability becomes a concern. Thoughts? -Mags

 

[Sirius]

That's the price for 30 ml, not 15 Sirius. They don't even offer in 15 ml I believe. If you order 3 bottles and use the monthly code Nanny posted in the other thread, it comes to $ 15 for 30 ml.

Yeah now it shows brotha. I was like WTH is going on over there? lmao

 

[Mazinny]

Couple of nice videos on FlavourArt. Interviews and a tour of their facilities ( this ain't no Crimmys ). They talk about DA/AP testing in the second video.

http://www.tasteyourjuice.com/wordpress/2015/09/28/benvenuto-a-flavourart/

Long videos and sometimes a little difficult to follow the Italian accents, but well worth watching to me. With all the negative recent reports on some vendors, it was a good reminder that not there are some vendors that do things right in this industry.

 

[MagnusEunson]

I find Nude Nicotine's testing options interesting in the context of their thread -

http://www.nudenicotine.com/product/mini-profile-nicotine-diketones/ (Just the facts Ma'am)

http://www.nudenicotine.com/product/full-profile-analysis/ (The whole enchilada)

http://www.nudenicotine.com/product/analyte-buffet/ (A la carte)

Given the amount that one can spend on a mod, tanks, and coils - I'd even consider 'donating' such a test to a favored nicquid vendor. Or greatly appreciate vendors announcing how much per bottle goes toward testing ..

-Mags

 

[MagnusEunson]

Per @Kent C , http://decadentvapours.com/about/quality-you-can-trust/ is diketones free but I don't see any testing published.

If any of y'all are their customers (or Liberty Flights?), it might be worth inquiring regarding any open orders. Cheers, -Mags

 

[AngiBe]

MOV, Rangler....AWESOME!!! Love this stuff! I know it will even taste better with lower ohms on my REO but all that I had available was the Kayfun 4.

Can't wait to try the other bottles!

 

[Gauntlgrym]

Eciggity has a liquid line called Eliquidy. $19.99 for 100ml at 70gv30pg

they test and are D/AP free. everything is ND.
http://www.eciggity.com/content/EliquidyAnalysis.pdf

only 4 or the 6 are tested, but that's because 2 were just released.

these guys should be added to the list

 

[AngiBe]

So sad....emailed Sleeping Dragon Vapor and he assures his juices are DA free but said

"As for the AP we haven't had them tested yet as the testing seems flawed and producing different results for the same liquids. Once there is an established for sure test we will have them tested. We are a very small company and going with a testing format that produces varying results is not money spent well."

I love his juices, a LOT, but scratched off my list for now. Just sold 9 beloved bottles of it in the classies. Guess that's more money to try more MOV or maybe Black Note. But DANG Black Note is pricey!!

 

[Thundernoggin]

So sad....emailed Sleeping Dragon Vapor and he assures his juices are DA free but said

"As for the AP we haven't had them tested yet as the testing seems flawed and producing different results for the same liquids. Once there is an established for sure test we will have them tested. We are a very small company and going with a testing format that produces varying results is not money spent well."

I love his juices, a LOT, but scratched off my list for now. Just sold 9 beloved bottles of it in the classies. Guess that's more money to try more MOV or maybe Black Note. But DANG Black Note is pricey!!

Instead of Black Note go to http://www.naturally-extracted-tobacco.com/ He's in the middle of multiple rounds of testing but details on the ones tested so far are right on the front page. Testing sheets linked on product pages. Clay is a great dude and product quality is stellar.

You did better than I have lately asking the question. Lot of no responses.

 

[skin_e1]

So sad....emailed Sleeping Dragon Vapor and he assures his juices are DA free but said

"As for the AP we haven't had them tested yet as the testing seems flawed and producing different results for the same liquids. Once there is an established for sure test we will have them tested. We are a very small company and going with a testing format that produces varying results is not money spent well."

I love his juices, a LOT, but scratched off my list for now. Just sold 9 beloved bottles of it in the classies. Guess that's more money to try more MOV or maybe Black Note. But DANG Black Note is pricey!!

I wanted to try his juices out too Thanks for the heads up and good luck on your sales

 

[MagnusEunson]

But DANG Black Note is pricey!!

Instead of Black Note go to http://www.naturally-extracted-tobacco.com/ ..

You did better than I have lately asking the question. Lot of no responses.

I just can't ~vape~ tobacco flavors - I have yet to find one that is like my normal pipe smokes. Black cherry tobacco or any good pipe tobacco. If any of those vendors have good ones pipe-like AND you actually smoked a pipe ;-) do let me know please ..

No response means no idea means YES WE HAVE DIKETONES .. ;-)

Those that don't are clear about it and don't shy away from at least some testing. A local shoppe I frequent has two flavors I like and I offered to pay for the tests myself just yesterday. They declined which was all the answer I needed. -Mags

 

[Thundernoggin]

I just can't ~vape~ tobacco flavors - I have yet to find one that is like my normal pipe smokes. Black cherry tobacco or any good pipe tobacco. If any of those vendors have good ones pipe-like AND you actually smoked a pipe ;-) do let me know please ..

No response means no idea means YES WE HAVE DIKETONES .. ;-)

Those that don't are clear about it and don't shy away from at least some testing. A local shoppe I frequent has two flavors I like and I offered to pay for the tests myself just yesterday. They declined which was all the answer I needed. -Mags

I can't help you there. Never was a pipe smoker. Best NET tobacco vapes I've ever had though have come out of N-E-T.com.

 

[MagnusEunson]

Here is a laugh for y'all ..

Those who know me know that English is not my first language - so deciding how to pronounce things is often a challenge for me. Instead of using Google to find audio (which I should), I read things and usually however I read them first sticks in my head.

So while I know it's DI - KETE - TONES ...

I more often than not say DIKE - TONES when speaking quickly to a shoppe about it ..

That got me some pretty harsh criticism because they didn't know what diketones were and thought it was a slur against well you know ..

Lesson learned. Just say Diacetyl and AP and friends ;-)

-Mags

 

[AngiBe]

Instead of Black Note go to http://www.naturally-extracted-tobacco.com/ He's in the middle of multiple rounds of testing but details on the ones tested so far are right on the front page. Testing sheets linked on product pages. Clay is a great dude and product quality is stellar.

You did better than I have lately asking the question. Lot of no responses.

Thanks for the heads up!!! Have you ever had GoodeJuice Oraganic #1? If so, do u know of one NET.com may have that kinda comes close? Love that stuff but GeJ hasn't tested and said something like nets are hard to test or somethin. I gotta look for that email.

Yes...I've been hounding a BUNCH of vendors if they've tested, will test or have any results. LOLOLOL

Strike that...GeJ hasn't tested their NETS yet, but are planning on it. Good to hear!

 

[Mazinny]

Thanks for the heads up!!! Have you ever had GoodeJuice Oraganic #1? If so, do u know of one NET.com may have that kinda comes close? Love that stuff but GeJ hasn't tested and said something like nets are hard to test or somethin. I gotta look for that email.

Yes...I've been hounding a BUNCH of vendors if they've tested, will test or have any results. LOLOLOL

Strike that...GeJ hasn't tested their NETS yet, but are planning on it. Good to hear!

Angie,

GeJ Organic has a sweetness that is kinda unique among the NETs I have tried. It must be a blend of tobacco other vendors don't have access to. Clay makes some fantastic NETs though and if you call him, he will have a long conversation with you and quiz you about your likes and dislikes and make a recommendation or two.

You won't regret it. The gunk level is along the same lines as GeJ.

 

[Thundernoggin]

Thanks for the heads up!!! Have you ever had GoodeJuice Oraganic #1? If so, do u know of one NET.com may have that kinda comes close? Love that stuff but GeJ hasn't tested and said something like nets are hard to test or somethin. I gotta look for that email.

Yes...I've been hounding a BUNCH of vendors if they've tested, will test or have any results. LOLOLOL

Strike that...GeJ hasn't tested their NETS yet, but are planning on it. Good to hear!

I have not had that one and looks like Maz has the answer.

 

[AngiBe]

NT just posted his results in the NT thread for those who want to check it out. Even tho it appears many are high, gotta give kudos to him! He at least posted and let the customer decide it they want to buy or not. I think that's all we are asking for.

I'm looking through NET.com's juices. Most I want to try are not the ones tested. Kinda bummed

 

[GameDesigner]

Thank you for this thread. Huge service to the community. I typically vape 90 percent Ahlusion and 5 percent HHV, 5 percent Plume Room but I want to see the lab reports. Seeing Plume Room's reports here prompted me to restock those without diketones. I wish Ahlusion would do the same. The fact that they haven't is what has me here. MOV sounds terrific. I might place an order today. Any favorites in their line ups? Any discount codes?

 

[Thundernoggin]

Test results now on product pages at Mr Good Vape.

@Dizzo