The Diketone free tested vendors list

Status
Not open for further replies.

Thundernoggin

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 29, 2014
1,738
6,942
MI
Wow..this is very cool and glad they stepped up to the plate and did this. Looks like I will be adding them to my list of vendors to buy juice from. :thumb:

Here are the results from when they started. It was something they did quietly. Results were up for a couple weeks before everyone started catching on. Results can be found on product pages as well.

 

Rossum

Eleutheromaniac
Supporting Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Dec 14, 2013
16,081
105,232
SE PA
well you can't forget 5pawns can you? they were VERY upset with the results. VS no longer carries them though.
Are you sure VS carried or tested 5P? The controversy over diketones in 5P liquids started when a UK seller had the stuff tested. There was a big thread about it this summer. 5P sent lawyers to demand the UK vendor pull the test results from their site and the UK vendor caved. I do not think VS would have thrown in the towel quite that easily.
 

Sirius

Star Puppy
Supporting Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Nov 19, 2013
18,632
76,259
North Carolina
Are you sure VS carried or tested 5P? The controversy over diketones in 5P liquids started when a UK seller had the stuff tested. There was a big thread about it this summer. 5P sent lawyers to demand the UK vendor pull the test results from their site and the UK vendor caved. I do not think VS would have thrown in the towel quite that easily.
Huum didn't see that. Cloud9 did the testing. They pulled the results eh? Must look around a bit to see where that thread is Rossum. Unless you'll be a gent and post it here?:pervy:
 

Sirius

Star Puppy
Supporting Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Nov 19, 2013
18,632
76,259
North Carolina
[emoji38] Click on "big thread about it this summer" in his post and all will be revealed
I did that and only found out Rossum isn't a very good swimmer. Always trying to squonk with one hand and do the back stroke with the other. No wonder he goes through so many squonkers. [emoji1]

Sent from my XT1028 using Tapatalk
 

MagnusEunson

Bearded Super Villain
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Apr 30, 2011
4,448
4,789
Behind you
Nude Nicotine.

BTW - you know that we're both due for an avatar update, right? ;-)

I'd also like to convince @AngiBe to update hers so I don't think I'm looking at Ms. Dillingham from my daughter's school. Ms. Dillingham judges me.

-Mags
 

AngiBe

Vapeaholic
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Aug 19, 2013
15,509
33,366
Indy, IN
BTW - you know that we're both due for an avatar update, right? ;-)

I'd also like to convince @AngiBe to update hers so I don't think I'm looking at Ms. Dillingham from my daughter's school. Ms. Dillingham judges me.

-Mags

LMAO! I usually morph into Angelina Jolie around the holidays so may change that out tonight ;)
 

MagnusEunson

Bearded Super Villain
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Apr 30, 2011
4,448
4,789
Behind you
LMAO! I usually morph into Angelina Jolie around the holidays so may change that out tonight ;)

THAT'S TERRIBLE? Does it hurt when the bees sting your lips and leeches each your face? It seems like it would hurt.

And around the Holidays? Even worse.

Whatever it is that you're celebrating that causes this - stop. Christmas is MUCH easier. -Mags
 
  • Like
Reactions: AngiBe

Mazinny

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jul 25, 2013
4,263
22,713
NY
well you can't forget 5pawns can you? they were VERY upset with the results. VS no longer carries them though.
i'm also pretty sure that cosmic fog disputed one or two. saw it in a blog of theirs.
also, cyclops only made a fuss about one, but ALL the numbers cyclops posted we lower than what VS tests showed (other than the ones that were ND)

i also took it upon myself to email a few of the companies that VS sells, and asked them if their eliquid has D/AP in it (already knowing the answer). some replied "no, none of our eliquids contain diacetyl or ap"......even though according to the VS tests they do.



see i look at a company that posts all ND results, and i think it's a little fishy....not more trustworthy.
like really?? you just happened to create all theses liquids and not a single on has any D/AP what-so-ever?

take charlie noble for example. most of the line is D/AP free, but a couple here and there have very low amounts. like 5-12ug or something. that seems a little more trustworthy than "yup we are 100% nd across the board. no discrepancies at all, we made them perfect."
VS never carried 5P to begin with. Cosmic Fog did not dispute the results. They just wrote a blog explaining that they were always upfront with their customers ( unlike 5p ) and notified those who inquired, that two of their liquids had AP. They also pointed out that only 3 vendors out of the original 42 vendors tested were completely DA/AP free across the board. Far from disputing VS results, they applauded them for taking the initiative. Now I am not saying I know for a fact that others haven't disputed the VS results, only that I haven't seen evidence of it except for one juice, Colossus by Cyclops Vapors.

No, I don't believe the vendors whose results you find sketchy, just " happened" to be nd across the board. MOV, Mr. Eliquid, Njoy etc... had a company policy to only sell non-diketone liquids. they tweaked, reformulated, tested, retweaked, retested etc.... Only then did they send their liquids to be independently tested and publicized their results. It wasn't happenstance at all, it was all by meticulous design.
 

Mazinny

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jul 25, 2013
4,263
22,713
NY
Here are the results from when they started. It was something they did quietly. Results were up for a couple weeks before everyone started catching on. Results can be found on product pages as well.


There are a lot more vendors tested on the Vapor Shark site now. I believe what you posted is summary bu ECTA of Canada. I wish they would update it ! Perhaps we could provide a link to this in the first post as an addendum.
 

Thundernoggin

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 29, 2014
1,738
6,942
MI
There are a lot more vendors tested on the Vapor Shark site now. I believe what you posted is summary bu ECTA of Canada. I wish they would update it ! Perhaps we could provide a link to this in the first post as an addendum.

I'd love to have an updated copy too. Fantastic resource and it's easy to read.
 

Racehorse

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jul 12, 2012
11,230
28,254
USA midwest
It wasn't happenstance at all, it was all by meticulous design.

If i were making stuff to go into somebody else's body, I think the practice of "meticulous" would be front and forward, and of utmost importance.

I can appreciate the forethought and planning put forth here.

Unfortunately, for many vendors who don't take this seriously, its just a dog n' pony show, website advertising copy, just send money. Sorry, but that's the way I feel.

Also, interesting that, with the sheer amount of testing VS has done on so many ejuices, that alone serves as a kind of "resource" for vapers......I mean, in and of itself. :)
 
Last edited:

herb

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Mar 21, 2014
4,850
6,723
Northern NJ native , Coastal NC now.
Yup, a lot easier than clickin on vendors, and then on the specific juice, every time !

I digged in a bit in the past when seeing a (no diketones) message on many e juice websites, when i dug deeper and said to them ,( if i have your juice independently tested you are positive it will be diketone free) is that right ?

Most responses were " well, we can't absolutely guarantee it's completely free of them , we just post that message because thats what some of our suppliers have claimed " .

No way i would take a juice companies word for it , at this point vendors don't have to (by law), tell you whats really in their juice so many won't , claiming is a lot different than proving in this scenario.

I believe "Five Pawns" also claimed their juice was diketone free , what a joke of a comment that was , they weren't even remotely close to being truthful.
 

MagnusEunson

Bearded Super Villain
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Apr 30, 2011
4,448
4,789
Behind you
I believe "Five Pawns" also claimed their juice was diketone free , what a joke of a comment that was , they weren't even remotely close to being truthful.

I think they made the claim they were diacetyl free at one point - I don't recall seeing diketones broadly.

Their latest results are here ..

-Mags
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread