The Hangsen Thread

[Art Mustel]

The two I mentioned is the only two I've tried so far, so be sure and post your question over in the Inawera thread as well. The Inawera blend is a very nice, complex blend with a slight cedar note on the exhale. It's really well done but if you don't care for the cedar note at all then you'll need to pass on that one. The Vanilla for Pipe is also well done imo, with just enough vanilla to know it's there. It's also a great mixer with fruits and other tobacco's if you like that sort of thing.

Vanilla for Pipe is Awesome. Dry. very "tobacco". As you said, just enough vanilla to know it's there. I add a little EM to mine and could vape it all day.

Hangsens: my favorites so far: #5, Deluxe, Tab blended, Highway and Indian. Highway at 5%, Tab Blended at 8% and #5, deluxe and Indian, 7%.

Arabic has a very strong note that I don't enjoy much.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Can anyone here help me with Hangsen Cream? What I need help with is simple, I want to know your thoughts on whether you think it has diacetyl. I have gotten myself so familiar with acetylpropionyl that I can detect it in small amounts by sniff and taste. I know I got it down pretty well becasue with Capella flavors, when I suspect it, I call them and they confirm it for me -- and I haven't been wrong so far. I am one of those people that would rather not vape with the stuff, but I am really not familiar with how diacetyl plays out in concentrates.

Does anyone here use Hangsen Cream? I am making a recipe with Hangsen Cream and that flavor, even in the tiny amount I am using it at, is critical! But, that flavor is just so rich and such authentically cream, I can't help but to wonder.

I know I am asking for speculation, but I don't have the $200 or so bucks to get it tested.

 

[GaryInTexas]

I can't answer your question about that cream but I have come to assume that if a vendor does not provide an actual lab analysis then I consider it to have diacetyl. I have not seen any disclaimers from Hangsen.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I can't answer your question about that cream but I have come to assume that if a vendor does not provide an actual lab analysis then I consider it to have diacetyl. I have not seen any disclaimers from Hangsen.

It sucks becasue as the old adage goes, when in doubt, throw it out! I tell ya', this flavor smells and tastes almost like melted butter! Sheesh. It is so strong though, one drop per 10 mL is all I need, and that may even be too much. [I use it a ~.2%.] I know some may say, "that's such a small amount, why care?" But I would just *prefer* to not vape with the diacetyl if I can help it. So I guess if I can't be sure, I know what I need to do -- pay up for the test or don't use it.

 

[GaryInTexas]

I can certainly appreciate your desire to stay away from the diketones. My personal opinion is that for me I may use a very small amount as an additive to my other known clean flavors. I have found that they can add that missing dimension that makes a juice more enjoyable to me so my threshold is just a little more loose (mainly Acetoin). Right now it's just very hard to find completely clean juice in my flavor profile desires.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I can certainly appreciate your desire to stay away from the diketones. My personal opinion is that for me I may use a very small amount as an additive to my other known clean flavors. I have found that they can add that missing dimension that makes a juice more enjoyable to me so my threshold is just a little more loose (mainly Acetoin). Right now it's just very hard to find completely clean juice in my flavor profile desires.

Acetoin is fine by me. It took me a while to pinpoint it since it was mostly used alongside with AP, but now I've gotten more clear on when it is in there by itself. I know acetoin may blah, blah, blah into diacetyl, but that to me is different than going in knowing I am putting DA in my liquid. That may be a tad hypocritical, but c'est la vie.

I totally get you on the profile thing though. It really does suck when you keep hitting that wall when you're convinced you want to avoid it. I don't know, one day I may throw my hands up and say the hell with it becasue avoiding diketones has become too dadgum consuming if you're like me and want to have a plethora of flavors form a plethora of vendors. Grrr.

Inhale.

Exhale.

 

[JD1]

It sucks becasue as the old adage goes, when in doubt, throw it out! I tell ya', this flavor smells and tastes almost like melted butter! Sheesh. It is so strong though, one drop per 10 mL is all I need, and that may even be too much. [I use it a ~.2%.] I know some may say, "that's such a small amount, why care?" But I would just *prefer* to not vape with the diacetyl if I can help it. So I guess if I can't be sure, I know what I need to do -- pay up for the test or don't use it.

It might be worth while to experiment with using two or more safe cream flavors to achieve something you like in your recipe. Not long back I read some posts where some folks were doing that with vanilla type flavors so I decided to give that a try. I don't have it completely worked out yet, but I'm thinking this is going to work for me as well. I'm also going to try the same thing with caramel flavors.

Another idea might be to change the flavor profile a little, trying to come up with something you like just as well or better. A similar idea to folks adding raspberry to their blackberry or something like that, you could try some more milk like flavors just to see what you'd get.

Just rattling around in (out of) my head a little. Darn, it's early and I need coffee.

 

[Art Mustel]

It sucks becasue as the old adage goes, when in doubt, throw it out! I tell ya', this flavor smells and tastes almost like melted butter! Sheesh. It is so strong though, one drop per 10 mL is all I need, and that may even be too much. [I use it a ~.2%.] I know some may say, "that's such a small amount, why care?" But I would just *prefer* to not vape with the diacetyl if I can help it. So I guess if I can't be sure, I know what I need to do -- pay up for the test or don't use it.

A cream flavor that tastes almost like melted butter?
If it has 4 paws and goes "meowwwwww..."

 

[Mr.Mann]

A cream flavor that tastes almost like melted butter?
If it has 4 paws and goes "meowwwwww..."

I'll move the rest of my comments over to the All Manufacturers thread..., but I will say that last night (after stressing about this) I made up another batch of my recipe without the HK Cream just to see. I boosted a few other 'safe' flavors like JD1 was talking about. Fingers are crossed.

 

[Slots]

I want to know your thoughts on whether you think it has diacetyl. I am one of those people that would rather not vape with the stuff .

Can't help you, but I already had some of the "baddies" in the cupboard before it became a big thing to be concerned about.
So, what I do is ... don't inhale that juice.
Just take a mouthful, and exhale through your nose. You get the flavor, (and the nic), but your keeping it out of your lungs.
It's Ok going through the stomach acids, but, the taste and nic are absorbed by the mucus areas of your mouth, throat, and nasal passages anyway, not your lungs, so your not missing anything.
If your a lung hitter ... your outta luck

 

[Exchaner]

The more I try HS straight tobacco, the more I like it. A very mild and pleasant flavor. It can be used all by itself or as a base to add other flavors like AP, chocolate, or even as a base for RY4. Try it at 2.5%-3% and you won't be sorry - make that 5%+ for Danny But then YMMV.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Can't help you, but I already had some of the "baddies" in the cupboard before it became a big thing to be concerned about.
So, what I do is ... don't inhale that juice.
Just take a mouthful, and exhale through your nose. You get the flavor, (and the nic), but your keeping it out of your lungs.
It's Ok going through the stomach acids, but, the taste and nic are absorbed by the mucus areas of your mouth, throat, and nasal passages anyway, not your lungs, so your not missing anything.
If your a lung hitter ... your outta luck

I am keeping this flavor. I will use it and I will vape with it. There's nothing else I've tried that is remotely close to Hangsen Cream, so I guess I will just roll the dice.

 

[denali_41]

Gotta post to get this thread higher up in my feed

nothing to see hear but a bunch of boring letters in an organized form

 

[thefleck]

Anyone have experience with Hangsen Mocha? I got a bottle from ECX and I'm having a lot of trouble finding any flavor. First tried 5%, now at 12%...still nothing. I can almost taste some mocha flavor. Does this need to steep or what? There's a ton of rave reviews out there describing this one and they don't seem at all consistent with what I have.

 

[JeremyR]

Never tried it, but it will need to steep. How long has it been since you mixed them.

 

[Sdh]

Anyone have experience with Hangsen Mocha? I got a bottle from ECX and I'm having a lot of trouble finding any flavor. First tried 5%, now at 12%...still nothing. I can almost taste some mocha flavor. Does this need to steep or what? There's a ton of rave reviews out there describing this one and they don't seem at all consistent with what I have.

It may be a old batch. Ecigexpress claims they are discontinuing the Hangsen brand. I would link you to that statement. However, its on a different forum and is not allowed. Mocha is great at 5% btw.

 

[Slots]

Anyone have experience with Hangsen Mocha? First tried 5%, now at 12%...still nothing.

I've tried it from 6-12%, and NO flavor at all.
BTY, it did NOTcome from ECX, and it was 4 weeks old, so your not the only one that's missing those taste buds

 

[Aurora-Oblivion]

I've tried it from 6-12%, and NO flavor at all.
BTY, it did NOTcome from ECX, and it was 4 weeks old, so your not the only one that's missing those taste buds

Ha, sounds like the "cocoa air" they also offer, must use a similar air type flavoring component

 

[thefleck]

Ha! Definitely seems like a Mocha Air hehe. Steeped about 2 weeks.

In other news, the RY3 is spot on for Halo's Tribeca. I'm going to play around with some EM and AP, just needs a little something extra, but it's pretty darn close as is. So close, that I'm wondering if the Tri is a nod to the Ry3 origins.

 

[denali_41]

yesterday i mixed up some HS RY1 5% & VZ vanilla 3%[pg version] @2mg strength

this mix is dam good without any steeping time either