The Hangsen Thread

[Blueser]

My HS USA just came in today, first one I've bought...Now please tell me i didn't screw up with this combo..haha, it's taking a nice little warm bath as I type. I mixed 5ml @ 50/50 18mg nic...5% USA - 1% FA Vanilla - 1% FA Fresh Cream...it smells awesome...I just hope it doesn't taste like...well you know what. I have high hopes for it!

 

[KimchiMonger]

In the past I've raved about vaping Hangsen same day mixed and loving it. With steeping time important, no surprise I just vaped a 14 day old Arabic and Desert Ship with much greater results. While these concentrates are fine for me day one, I found the 14 day old flavors still strong as I like (9% and 4%), but VERY, VERY SMOOTH! Absolutely perfect beyond anything I imagined possible! Familiar flavor with new smoothness.

Also tested a few DIY recipes with Wizard and TFA flavors and they are still sharp and chemical like at low percentages. Most disappointing here is they're over six weeks steeping. If I lowered percentages of any ingredients, I'd have no strong flavor for my abused Pall Mall taste buds. Glad we have Hangsen tobaccos to hit the spot and only getting better daily.

 

[Norman Clature]

Yes it would. I tried a Hangsen flavor at 30% and my head spun like a top !

OUCH!

I was in a hurry one time and since I use a REO Grand (bottom feeder) I just took the drip tip out of my atomizer and primed my wick with some super-concentrated HS RY4 instead of taking the on-board bottle out and putting some in there with whatever flavor I was vaping. I don't know what I was thinking. I guess I figured after a few hits things would be tolerable as I fed more from the bottom, which turned out to be true, but those were some rough hits at first!

My taste buds were ruined for awhile and my eyes and nose were runny.

HA!

Norman

 

[cessnapix]

My HS USA just came in today, first one I've bought...Now please tell me i didn't screw up with this combo..haha, it's taking a nice little warm bath as I type. I mixed 5ml @ 50/50 18mg nic...5% USA - 1% FA Vanilla - 1% FA Fresh Cream...it smells awesome...I just hope it doesn't taste like...well you know what. I have high hopes for it!

No I don't think so! You need a longgggggggggg steep with that one.

@sdh
I use the dot1ml calculator on line and was copying a recipe late last night and accidentally deleted it. I called it tropical cigar, Black and Mild base but didnt have any vanilla at the time i made it so I used Vanilla Tahiti.

From memory; it was a bit sweet, but 3 stars.

VZ Black cigar------ 2.5% (Has a slight coconut in the background)
FA Vanilla Tahiti----- 1.% ( substitute your fav. Vanilla) I used 2% in the original recipe
FA whipped cream - 10%
VZ coconut ------- 1.% ( overpowering at 1st but mellows out nice)
FA Vape wizard----- recommended %
Distilled water------- 5%

Takes a good two weeks steep or more, Smells awesome with the chocolate from the Black & mild.


@vapeman, Take the cap off for a couple of days and let it steep a bit even though it is premix. It will have a metallic fruity prune taste to it, with that fresh pack of cig. taste/smell. Almost everyone of these tobacco that have a fruity taste are all like prunes, Tobacco, Gold&silver, Deluxe, and there is another one or two cant recall at the moment.

I am finding myself going to highway more and more! But I am confusing my tastebuds testing too many flavors at once.

 

[dannyv45]

My HS USA just came in today, first one I've bought...Now please tell me i didn't screw up with this combo..haha, it's taking a nice little warm bath as I type. I mixed 5ml @ 50/50 18mg nic...5% USA - 1% FA Vanilla - 1% FA Fresh Cream...it smells awesome...I just hope it doesn't taste like...well you know what. I have high hopes for it!

To me it sounds just right. I think your going to have a very good vape there. May need to steep 3 days to a week but should be very good. Some say the USA is to ashey so if it's not for you I found that hangsen RY1 or arabic works well with that combination.

 

[Jimi D.]

I believe the gentleman had these results

 

[dannyv45]

Ha Ha looks like he added to much koolata.

 

[michaelsil1]

I believe the gentleman had these results View attachment 280708

It's them dang Marshmallows in my Tobacco

 

[dannyv45]

I believe the gentleman had these results View attachment 280708

That dang marshmallo exploaded my carto and look what it did to my face

 

[cessnapix]

I know I am paranoid, but you "ash heads" are all laughing at me aren't you!

 

[dannyv45]

I know I am paranoid, but you "ash heads" are all laughing at me aren't you!

All in good fun so don't get offended. In fact your correct response should have been "what a bunch of ash holes"

Hey that reminds me of a joke.

How do you catch an elephant.

1. Dig a deep hole
2. Fill the hole with ashes
3. Place pea's around the hole.

Now when the elephant comes to take a pea kick him in the ash hole.

 

[Jimi D.]

I know I am paranoid, but you "ash heads" are all laughing at me aren't you!

LOL !! Ash, Koolada, frost. It's powder !

 

[cessnapix]

LOL !! Ash, Koolada, frost. It's powder !

yea buddy! you can come out of the Keys and visit me by the end of January and see all kinds of, shovable Powder But I could move if I wanted right!

I know its all in good fun Danny, Back a few years ago I may have been witty enough to call you ash holes but it never crossed my mind this time.

Hey are you guys finding that over a couple weeks time these flavors loose all there tones and get weaker in flavor? The golden VI I like so much just keeps loosing its nice tones. Not sure if I should make smaller batches more often or bump the percentage up to 7%. Maybe 5 mls left in the batch and need to make more anyways, but the tones have been gone a few days now. Any thoughts on you guys that make large batches of Hangsen? I am thinking maybe I shouldn't make a 120ml bottle? Usually I find a flavor I like i make bigger batches.

 

[dannyv45]

That's pretty common especially with tobaccos. If you find the flavor fades over time that's the steeping process doing it's magic. I would bump it up a % or 2. With those kinda mixes I'll make it stronger then steep them in an ultrasonic cleaner before even vaping it so I don't need to deal with the fade issue.

 

[KimchiMonger]

That would be cause for concern if making larger batches. I have nic juice arriving Monday or Tue and planned on making 30ml of four different HS tobaccos. Think I'll do 20 each and add to them when reaching 10 ml since I'm OK vaping them within a day or two. I mentioned earlier that I tested a two week old Arabic and Desert Ship and blew me away with their complexity and smoothness. Reducing any of that beauty would not be good.

I am going to mix a 5ml tobacco and try 4 wks out and share my thoughts on it.

 

[dannyv45]

That would be cause for concern if making larger batches. I have nic juice arriving Monday or Tue and planned on making 30ml of four different HS tobaccos. Think I'll do 20 each and add to them when reaching 10 ml since I'm OK vaping them within a day or two. I mentioned earlier that I tested a two week old Arabic and Desert Ship and blew me away with their complexity and smoothness. Reducing any of that beauty would not be good.

I am going to mix a 5ml tobacco and try 4 wks out and share my thoughts on it.

It's not really a cause for concern. Once the juice steeps the fading stops and the flavor will stay consistant. the trick is to figure out how much flavor is needed to compensate for the fade. I usually find that number to be no more then 2%. So if you make your mix 2% stronger it may taste strong in the beginning but will mellow to the expected flavor after steeping. This is why I steep my tobaccos first before vaping them.

In an ultrasonic cleaner steeping takes 3 - 5 hours instead of weeks as opposed to just letting it steep naturally. Other then tobaccos most other mixes like fruits and deserts only take 3 days to a week to steep naturally.

Now I know many people including myself say why wait for it to steep. If it taste good now then vape it now. I can't argue with that and it sounds like I'm going against my own advice. But what you have to realize is I've made these juices before and know what there supposed to taste like and already know from experience how much is needed to compensate for the fade and this is why I steep first and vape later.

It all boils down experience and believe me I still struggle when experimenting with new recipes just like everyone else.

 

[cessnapix]

Thanks Danny, that helps a lot. I am kind of chasing some of these hangsen flavors around and I do let them steep. I was also taste testing one or two every 2-3 days, not allday vaping, but testing.

That 2% will bring me back up to about 7%-8% with the golden VI and hopefully will get my liquorice and sweet hay tones back after a steep. I never thought I would say that about vaping liquorice, but it all depends on chemical or natural tasting!!!!

I may invest in a UC but I get things in my head that I can make my own, probe and transmitter style. Just not feasible unless you are an electronics guy. It will end up costing me 3 times more than buying one all ready made.

Any reason you can't bypass the short timer and put an on off switch and use a programmable wall outlet timer? I don't like to heat nic. and high vg levels up to often so a heat bath is not necessary for me.

Normally I could get by just steeping, but playing with lots of dif. flavors and more brands down the road; it may be worth it after the holidays settle down.

 

[KimchiMonger]

It's not really a cause for concern. So if you make your mix 2% stronger it may taste strong in the beginning but will mellow to the expected flavor after steeping.

Good point Danny. Will do. I'm down to about 10 and 15 ml on my favorite flavors. I'll be finishing my first 10ml Hangsen batches next week and the first DIY flavor concentrate I'll be making again! I have some 60 flavors here and this brand will be the first I make another 30 ml each. Haven't done that with any others and looked forward to it.

 

[JeremyR]

Good information Danny thanks.
I've got hangsens that are 9 months old, I've been holding on to the last bit of gold and silver I had. I've vaped others at 5 months and it was what I remembered. Hangsen claims thier flavors hold for longer than any.

 

[dannyv45]

Thanks Danny, that helps a lot. I am kind of chasing some of these hangsen flavors around and I do let them steep. I was also taste testing one or two every 2-3 days, not allday vaping, but testing.

That 2% will bring me back up to about 7%-8% with the golden VI and hopefully will get my liquorice and sweet hay tones back after a steep. I never thought I would say that about vaping liquorice, but it all depends on chemical or natural tasting!!!!

I may invest in a UC but I get things in my head that I can make my own, probe and transmitter style. Just not feasible unless you are an electronics guy. It will end up costing me 3 times more than buying one all ready made.

Any reason you can't bypass the short timer and put an on off switch and use a programmable wall outlet timer? I don't like to heat nic. and high vg levels up to often so a heat bath is not necessary for me.

Normally I could get by just steeping, but playing with lots of dif. flavors and more brands down the road; it may be worth it after the holidays settle down.

7% is my sweet spot as well but I do like strong flavor. As far as by passing the timer on a UC I've read in the UC steeping forum that some are by passing the timers on the 8 minute models by jamming the buttons with a rubber band or tape. If you are going to do that then I would not let them run more then 30 minute cycles giving them a rest of 5 minutes in between cycles to let them cool down. Some even jam the buttons then plug them into a wall timer.

The uc steep forum is a great read if you haven't done so already here it is.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ing-times-ultrasonic-cleaner-part-iii-39.html

I also wrote a nice blog on steeping.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...you-wanted-know-about-steeping-then-some.html