The Provari Ripoff

[RoseB]

Really another thread like this? Honestly find something else to start ..... over This has been done to death. If you really don't like the provari or it is too spendy don't buy it! Is someone standing there with a gun pointing to your head telling you to buy one? Most likely no. Leave it the H alone, because I really don't think people's opinions on this subject have changed in the past couple days...since the last thread of this kind was posted.

 

[JC Okie]

No one said the provari wasn't a good piece of hardware. The fundemental point( <<<<<< GET THAT "FUNDEMENTAL") is that it is over priced. You can't get one if you don't pay the vendor what their asking for it. And prices do vary. Starting from £140 upwards. So if this device was say £90 or even £100 then that would be a realistic price that reflects it's quality. Look at a pair of £200 nike trainers(sneakers) you know for a fact they are not worth half that but people still buy them. It's the same thing with "provape". They are making a name for themselves. Never again will this company let their products go for what their worth because these things have become "fashionable" now. People don't mind over paying for fashion do they. Provape will soon be selling expensive polo shirts and fitted caps with their logo on. Please don't tell me you don't know what i mean. I mean would you buy a jacket for £500 pound just because it has a ferrari label on it.

And your point is? Take it somewhere else.....this gets really old.....

 

[5cardstud]

Just as i suspected. Predictable ? Oh yeah !. I knew it. I knew this is what would happen if i posted this. No one that owns one would admit it's just another mod and not worth anymore than any other. Oh and comments about me not being able to afford one even though you don't even know if i can or not. And if i pay less, even if it is only say £50 less, would be considered "cheap". £75 is not cheap. £150+ is expensive. Lets get it right. So i just get insulted. As i said. Predictable.

The thing is they take a 3.7 volt battery and convert the voltage to your desired output under 6 volts. The Lava Tube and what other vendors are calling it does exactly the same thing. HOWEVER vaping like anything else is subjective and thank God for that. My vendor is out of stock enough and if everyone didn't choose what the liked and instead picked what I like I would never be able to get my order filled. Bottom line, The best PV out there is the one you like whether it be a Pro=vari or a battery taped up with a switch and connector.

 

[digunderground]

Just as i suspected. Predictable ? Oh yeah !. I knew it. I knew this is what would happen if i posted this. No one that owns one would admit it's just another mod and not worth anymore than any other. Oh and comments about me not being able to afford one even though you don't even know if i can or not. And if i pay less, even if it is only say £50 less, would be considered "cheap". £75 is not cheap. £150+ is expensive. Lets get it right. So i just get insulted. As i said. Predictable.

honestly, im kind of with you... I have a Polished green LED provari and it gets the least use out of any of my PV's. Im not saying its bad, or not even that its not worth the money, im just saying I rarely use it. First off, its HEAVY.. heavier than any other mod I have. Its BIG, about the same height as a zmax but much thicker. its EXPENSIVE, id rather damage or lose a cheap mod so it never leaves my house. Its only VV.. come on even my zmax is VW.. aaaaand... just like all regulated mods, it can only go down to 1.3 ohms...

soooo... i end up using my unregulated mods the most, almost to the point i might sell my provari + zap.. I literally havent used it in 4 months.

I get your sentiment, but it is well made. I just think its not for everyone, and that there are mods just as good (for some people) that are a hell of a lot cheaper. Thats just my 2C... you did have to know your post was going to get the fanboys out though.. right ?? lol

 

[Merlin21]

Din't read through all pages but... for the same reason one person owns a civic and one person owns a Ferarri.... I don't get it though, why limit yourself to what you can use? Anyway, Happy Holidays all!

 

[Dana A]

To the OP, I respect your decision not to buy a Provari or anything else for that matter. I also feel you could choose to respect my decision to own one. If I didn't love VV I would have owned a Silver Bullet. I like tube mods and I drop everything a LOT. I want the best quality I can afford so I stand a better chance of not breaking it when I drop it. I spent 220.00 a month on cigz when I smoked so I felt the price was OK for something that I thought would last me years to come. I use a cheap Smok Tech tank on it because it just works. It's not about having the best. It's about what works best for me. I hope you will choose what works best for you and I will respect you for it.

 

[sawlight]

The thing is they take a 3.7 volt battery and convert the voltage to your desired output under 6 volts. The Lava Tube and what other vendors are calling it does exactly the same thing. HOWEVER vaping like anything else is subjective and thank God for that. My vendor is out of stock enough and if everyone didn't choose what the liked and instead picked what I like I would never be able to get my order filled. Bottom line, The best PV out there is the one you like whether it be a Pro=vari or a battery taped up with a switch and connector.

I agree! You were in the thick of it with me on my decision! I still think the Buzz pro is a great mod, and recommend it regularly! The EGO is better for many, so I recommend it to those that need it. I don't try and push or sell the Provari to anyone I don't think needs it. There are a ton of other mods out there that suit so many needs to so many people. Not one is going to fit the bill for everyone, and that's the beauty of this, we have choices and options!
But to bash something based solely on price and no experience with it, and call it's owners and users "ripped off", is a rather foolhardy and blanketing bash.

 

[RickMc]

soooo... i end up using my unregulated mods the most, almost to the point i might sell my provari + zap.. I literally havent used it in 4 months.

YOu might wanna change your sig, in that case.

 

[denali_41]

to the OP ,,you have no idea what you are saying and should not make these type of posts until you know what you are talking about !!

i have owned both of them and there IS a big difference between the two..

about the price ?? W T H ?? really ! orion,gg, ihybrids and other mods sell for a lot more then the provari ! and there is nothing special about them other then the 300-1000 price tag,,that was not a typo either !!

 

[jazzbo]

Is the provari really worth the money people are expected to pay ? In my opinion no, no they aren't !. Firstly i think i should mention i do not own a provari.

Enough said. How can you pass judgement on something you admit you do not own? I have a ProVari; it was relatively expensive. But the build quality is top notch. It will likely outlive all my other mods put together. Using your argument, BMWs are rip-offs when you can buy a Kia.

Sorry, that dog don't hunt.

 

[mekks082]

American made/designed vs China made/designed....

That alone is worth the extra cost.

 

[flintlock62]

I don't own a Provari, but won't be content until I have one. Best build, outstanding customer service, not really THAT expensive when all things are considered.

There's no "need" for a provari. You even pointed it out: the tens of thousands of ECF members who don't own one and are perfectly content without (nay, the several MILLION Ecig users worldwide). People also rave about the twist, and the LT, and the *max, etc etc etc, all of which are being sold at several hundred % of their manufacturing cost. If anything I'd wager that provape has lower margins than most of these units.

Off topic kinda but:

Vaping at 400 Watts - YouTube

 

[gtbb]

I have to say very misinformed. The comparison of the Lt vs. Provari has shown it over and over many times.I gave my Lt away two weeks after buying it for a Provari. The friend I gave it too has a Provari now as well.

 

[nomochokes]

Not to get off topic about Provari (but maybe we should) being worth the cost. I have been vaping a long time now and have been hankering for one for the last couple of years but I still haven't pulled the trigger on the Provari. Someday I'm sure I will when the time is right.

I'm just wondering if anyone knows whether ProVape has any plans to upgrade the Provari with a simpler menu and readouts and possibly introduce VW? If this is in the works then I'm in!

Thanks

 

[Technonut]

One gets what one pays for...............

The ProVape-1 and ProVari are actually MADE and ASSEMBLED in the USA.

Parts - Machined right here in Monroe, WA. We use US-made stainless steel bar stock to produce the tubes, top caps, bottom caps, contact pins, etc. Everything is done on our machines locally. No outsourcing.

Bare Circuit Boards - Manufactured in Illinois. We do not purchase the circuit boards from China due to their poor quality. While the circuit boards are more expensive to produce in the USA; this is the heart of the system and it’s important to us that they are the best quality we can get. Each PCB is electronically tested before it ever sees components.

Electronic Components on Circuit Board – these are the only parts that might come from outside of the USA. Some of these parts are simply not made in the US, so we can’t get them from a US source, even though we would prefer to.

We use components from Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Malaysia, China and the USA.


Component assembly - Components are soldered onto the circuit boards at a facility outside Seattle, Washington. After getting components installed, the boards are tested several more times at our Monroe facility to ensure they are ready to ship. We test each one multiple times to give you the most reliable product you can get

 

[sawlight]

Since the OP ran off anyway's, I'll go OT.
I own a $1200 chainsaw, 84cc's, woods ported, something in the neighborhood of 9hp, pulls a 32" bar like a hot knife through butter in hardwood and makes chips half the size of my finger! I built a log splitter years ago, 27hp water cooled Kawasaki, 6"x32" cylinder on a 3/4 ton truck axle.
At one time I owned six chainsaws, I did a lot of tree work before I broke my back. I had two climbing saws, one for pruning, one for removal, several for ground work and the big one. I had lots of people tell me I was an idiot and didn't need that many saws. But not ONE of them did the work I did! Nor did they realize, or car to, how much money they made me!
I have three left, I still work when I can, and I've had a saw go down on me more than once, I don't want to fix a saw while I'm trying to make money!
I have three welders and two chop saws. I have a mini skid steer and access to three full size skid steers. I have a $430 Matco car scanner, I have a $200 Mac VOM, I have THOUSANDS in Mac and Snap-on tools in THREE tool boxes in the garage.
Obviously, I could get away with less in my state, I don't work on that much anymore. But when it gets to me, no one else has been able to fix it! They bring it to me because I can and will, but I'm in no hurry, I do it when I can, and as I can, but it's right when it leaves here! I've busted knuckles with cheap tools, I don't have time, or want for that! I've thrown away more Poulan and McChuloch chainsaws than you've probably ever seen! I've thrown a brand new $40 Craftsman Professional ratchet in the trash the day after I bought it because I busted my knuckles twice the FIRST time I used it, and bought a Snap-on to replace it!
Does "Joe Blow" need these things, probably not! Do I try to get the average home owner to buy a $1200 chainsaw? Heavens no! But I appreciate value for money, I buy what WORKS! I do my research, check things that work and don't on most everything I buy! If it's something I don't think I'll use that much, I'll buy the cheaper version, Harbor freight tools comes to mind for some things, but if I wear out the cheap version, I'll gladly save the money and buy the better version. Some things I KNOW I will use, and I suck it up and buy it right off! I played with the Lava tube to try VV. I liked it so it was worth it to me to spend the money and get a Provari.
But for you to insult me, for spending the money to get what I consider is the best fit for my needs, well, that's just ignorance on your part, and down right rude of you!

 

[AnsonJames]

Is the provari really worth the money people are expected to pay ? In my opinion no, no they aren't !. Firstly i think i should mention i do not own a provari. I am not likey to get one anytime soon either. I say this because "Provape", the usa based company responsible for producing the provari, are establishing their product as better than the rest simply by charging over 50% more for a product which is no better than any other mod on the market. You can pick up a lava tube for about £75 and this is the ballpark price for a mod. The common mistake consumers make is that price equals quality and the more you pay for a product the better it is. There is nothing at all special about the provari that you don't get from other mods. It's true though, that not all other mods provide all the features the provari does. Should this mean paying an extortionate price for one ?. I have no doubt a lot of people that read this, and own a provari, will argue. Well they would wouldn't they, seeing as they've already spent their money on one. Why would i just give some complete stranger £100 for absolutely no reason at all, i wouldn't, i'm not insane. So who of you would not buy a provari simply because you refuse to pay the money vendors are charging ?.

You seem to know an awful lot about something you don't own.
If you think a Lavatube is a comparable mod as far as performance, quality and longevity is concerned then I think you're a tad mistaken.

If you think the Provari is too expensive then don't buy one - no need to troll.

 

[AnsonJames]

I have to agree and wondered why myself. They are basically the same PV inside.

You're totally and utterly incorrect.
From a technical and performance standpoint, they are completely different.

 

[bk78]

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[Fishtec]

Not going to go on a massive rant but I put my provari through my washing machine by accident and it came out still working ( that is before any kind of drying taking battery out ect ) and to compare I dropped my ego c twist on the floor and it died not a hard drop or a heavy fall but there you are worth every penny purely for the ingenious ways you can keep a provari clean