Tidy happenings

[rdsok]

Great minds think alike: that is exactly what I do! I've got a Tidy sitting in a shot glass right now - sadly, the glass has juice in it, and the Tidy doesn't.

Then the logical thing to do... clean shot glass... pour in Vodka, empty it ... repeat until you don't care any longer

Return to testing after hangover goes subsides... lol

PS... Vodka usually doesn't give me a hangover, but that isn't as funny

 

[awf40]

I have a few of the older fluxomizers left over.. I took the middle ring from it & put it on top of the seal & pushed it down with my drip tip.. So far its working & its not leaking..

 

[yiddleboge6]

I'm thinking the tube should be a tad bit tighter as well. I get tiny drops of liquid in a ring on the top of the adapter

 

[Mindfield]

I'm thinking the tube should be a tad bit tighter as well. I get tiny drops of liquid in a ring on the top of the adapter

I get that with most things I use -- cartos or clearos. It's just normal accumulated condensation. You'll get it more often with bottom coils though because the vapor is produced closer to the connector end.

 

[yiddleboge6]

I get that with most things I use -- cartos or clearos. It's just normal accumulated condensation. You'll get it more often with bottom coils though because the vapor is produced closer to the connector end.

Except I don't have that when I use my phoenix bc on the iTaste

 

[Mindfield]

Except I don't have that when I use my phoenix bc on the iTaste

I get it with mine, both the small and the large one. Not in the iTaste mind you (still waiting for mine to arrive -- just how long does DHL from China take, anyway?) but on the LT 1.5, VMax and Twist, at any rate.

 

[Teach]

Got my iTaste today, started one of the tidys, but not that happy with them.

No leaks - I did fill it up-side-down per Bad's instructions - that may help. They seem to take a long time to get the get the coil wet after filling, so I used the Vivi 2.5 while waiting... it does well on the iTaste (apart from looking rather out of place.) I used the Tidy as is (with the mouth piece plug) so I wasn't too pleased to be reminded that juice really doesn't taste good... definitly need to fit a DT to see if that helps.

I did find that when the iTaste is in the yellow range it seems to have a hard time firing the coil - switched back to another mod before I figured it must be too low a charge... swapped to my other bat and it fired okay. The iTaste was firing the Vivi just fine, but couldn't get the Tidy going.

I've just done the one fill on one Tidy so I'll be drawn back to trying another fresh one... think I'll wait till the juice taste is out of my mouth first though.

 

[Briar]

Do us a favor, and please use the same Tidy, if it's not too much trouble. I've gone through four, and none of them dumped on the first fill - but all of them dumped on either the second or the third... I just want to see if this is consistent across the board.

BTW, I filled them right side up, and I filled them upside down - it didn't make any diff. They dumped.

I'm a tad surprised it's not vaping good for you though. The main reason I didn't just give up on this pup after the second dump was because it vapes sooooo damn nice...

Got my iTaste today, started one of the tidys, but not that happy with them.

No leaks - I did fill it up-side-down per Bad's instructions - that may help. They seem to take a long time to get the get the coil wet after filling, so I used the Vivi 2.5 while waiting... it does well on the iTaste (apart from looking rather out of place.) I used the Tidy as is (with the mouth piece plug) so I wasn't too pleased to be reminded that juice really doesn't taste good... definitly need to fit a DT to see if that helps.

I did find that when the iTaste is in the yellow range it seems to have a hard time firing the coil - switched back to another mod before I figured it must be too low a charge... swapped to my other bat and it fired okay. The iTaste was firing the Vivi just fine, but couldn't get the Tidy going.

I've just done the one fill on one Tidy so I'll be drawn back to trying another fresh one... think I'll wait till the juice taste is out of my mouth first though.

 

[Briar]

I'm thinking the tube should be a tad bit tighter as well. I get tiny drops of liquid in a ring on the top of the adapter

I think you are right... I'm not getting wetness around the edge there, but just the fact that it comes off so easily is not a good thing. I can foresee pocket dump from knocking it loose.

Plus, there is a possibility of juice seeping out and air seeping in.

 

[yiddleboge6]

The tube coming off so easily was why I thought it was a contributing factor. I really want these to work, just don't know what to do to fix them.

 

[Briar]

The tube coming off so easily was why I thought it was a contributing factor. I really want these to work, just don't know what to do to fix them.

Yeah, my last idea was to toss the plug that comes with it, and replace it with a plug from the old Fluxo - but the middle hole is too big.

We could stick the ring from the Fluxo on top of the plug, sure, but then we are just back to the original configuaration: solid mouthpiece on top of the fill plug. I think that's probably the whole problem: the bottom plug doesn't do a good job of keeping the vacuum, or whatever it's supposed to do, and the outer plug is not tight enough against the bottom plug to compensate. And it can't really, the surfaces are not precise enough. We are basically looking at the same problem a lot of early BCs had, it's just that this one has the coil/wick configuration that works great. They just need to fix the top part somehow.

 

[Teach]

Do us a favor, and please use the same Tidy, if it's not too much trouble. I've gone through four, and none of them dumped on the first fill - but all of them dumped on either the second or the third... I just want to see if this is consistent across the board.

BTW, I filled them right side up, and I filled them upside down - it didn't make any diff. They dumped.

I'm a tad surprised it's not vaping good for you though. The main reason I didn't just give up on this pup after the second dump was because it vapes sooooo damn nice...

Your wish (and so on and so forth...) I tracked down a silicone ring from an old CE2, pressed that into the tube, and that seems to seal the juice from the drip tip on the same Tidy. Hopefully, that's a fix. Still no leaks. I've had it both upright and on it's side.

It is vaping pretty well, but the draw is really tight. I might try to loosen that up - I can loosen it a bit with a 510 shorty adapter, easy - but not that convenient. The channels in the magnetic adapter are pretty shallow so that's worth a look. That might improve vapor production too.

I normally use a genesis atty, but I do like to experiment with the new stuff too. I'll keep you posted.

 

[Briar]

Thanks, Teach. I wish I had some of those rings left... Oh, well.

BTW, I noticed that the 510 adapter on the iTaste can be a bit problematic. It tightens the draw on everything. And despite the movable center post, you have to tighten stuff to kingdom come to made contact. The second adapter I got, I can't make work with my Vivis at all. And getting an eGo adapter and a Stardust to work is an adventure. It's a good thing the iTaste is short-protected, or I'd be worried about the eGo adapter shorting out from all the tightening. They need to work on that a bit, imo.

 

[Teach]

Hey Briar,

No leaks overnight... on my 3rd fill (still upside down). Agreed on the 510 adpt. I think part of the problems are in the iTaste though.

I put started out with about half tank (fill 2) and it was doing fine until the juice level reached the top of the wick nibs at the bottom and just started sucking juice. At the same time, the iTaste went to yellow and I got no fire... swapped bats again and refilled it started ok then stopped firing - button lights, no heat. Swap it to another mod and it fires great - put the ViVi on the iTaste and it fires; put the Tidy on the iTaste and it will fire once then stop. I'm starting to suspect the circuitry in the iTaste - ohms is showing 5. and recommending 5v setting... I followed that recommendation and got totally toasty - nasty burn.

Checking on the meter showed that was way 2.3Ω at the 510 fitting and the iTaste still showed 5Ω. I removed the 510 adpt. And carto then powered down and back up to reset the counter and that seemed to clear the 5Ω - 5v setting and went to 3.3Ω and 4.1v… letting it set for abt. 3 minutes and it went back to 5Ω - 5v. Went back through the clear procedure and now it’s reading 3.3Ω-3.9v.

On the iTaste, the ohms check appears to read high depending on type of atty/carto used. With or without the magnetic adapter the Tidy reads 1Ω high (both on used and unused coil). The ViVi 2.5 reads .5Ω high. Haven’t tried others, but may in the future. I used an Extech autoranging meter (zeroed out) for ohm check.

All that being said: after clearing the iTaste memory, the Tidy began vaping better (fingers crossed); An iTaste reading of 5Ω-5v, with atty mounted, may be an indicator of need for reset (without atty 5Ω - 5v appears to be normal); Minimum juice level in the Tidy appears to be just above the wick nibs at the bottom of the tank (appears to cause airflow through the wick and juice up the air tube – yummy!); and the iTaste ohms check may vary .5-1Ω.

Anyone ever get a 66 or a 77 code? Nothing in the book about that!

Edit: Well boogar - set it down for a few minutes and the 5Ω-5v came back up - had to reset twice to get it to clear... now it's vaping away again.

 

[rdsok]

Just a quick FYI which applies to any PV not just an iTaste...

Clean your contacts regularly, about every week or if juices have been leaking on it, more often. There are a number of good ways to do this... typically I'll just use a Q-Tip swab with alchol

 

[Briar]

Hey, Teach,

The circuitry on the iTaste might be iffy - I saw a reviewer having problems with it reading consistently and correctly... They may need to work on that. I had problems getting the ViVi, the Tidy, and the Fluxo firing on the iTaste - I have to jiggle and wiggle and tighten down or up sometimes. But mostly tighten down. I'm not sure if that's an adapter problem or the adapter/iTaste connection problem.

Right now I have the puff counter at 617, and it's reading the ohms about the same as the Provari, and more or less consistently.

You should start a ticket on this with GV, before the warranty runs out - that there ain't right. Or, alternatively, the Tidy is simply not making a good connection and causing error codes somehow, though it really just shouldn't be firing if that's the case, without any extraneous rigmarole.

This could account for the Tidy not working well for you, however, as far as quality of the vape is concerned, because it certainly vapes fantastic for me...

However, I'm not having those problems, and I also was testing the Tidy on the Twist... So I doubt these two problems are connected - meaning the leaking and the inconsistent firing. The Twist was certainly firing as normal.

But, you are saying that you filled it half-way upside down, and are not having any problems currently?

 

[Teach]

I'm actually on the 3rd fill now. Had to set it down in frustration.

I've been filling upside down each time and haven't had any leaks. I agree, there seems to be something up with the iTaste circuitry and I haven’t been able to nail it down. I may put in a ticket, but I wanted to get a regular malfunction if I could.

There still seems to be a relationship with the malfunctions and the Tidy though... I think I need to see if I can get a different atty/carto to do the same thing.

I may get back to it this afternoon.

 

[badkolo]

as to the tidy leaking, i cant pin point it, but i dont see no reason not to treat these like a phoenix bottom coil, placement of the wick should not matter but then again the slits on the tidy are smaller then the phoenix, some people say fill then normally, i say upside down, but the issue then lies in the fill hole, its BIG, and once you poke through it to fill i think its easier for pressure to escape.

i have not had one leak out but ive been careful as to how i poke through the filler hole flap, im wondering if making a little plug would work but that would be a pain to deal with, but when i look at it closely there is already a slit going up the side of the inner plug, if you look closely you should see the slit which air would be escaping as your filling, so thats maybe why you can fill them normal, but as we know the phoenix works with pressure.

so not sure which way to go here, if pressure os the answer then a new inner plug might be key that doesnt have this slit

and at the same time is pressure was the issue, then why are some getting leaking any others not including myself.

Now i have not played with the tidy nearly a much as i did the phoenix, i used over 100 phoeinix's heavily, ive only played with 5 tidys as this was not a product we where involved with and the only issue i had was a long breaking in period on 3 which i seems to be able to fix by modding it.

Innokin is listening to feedback so this is good and we are speaking to them late tonight and ill get answers to some posts made here by you all.

 

[badkolo]

if your tidy isnt firing
i would push the pin on the magnet up, so that the disk is flat with the 510 side, then screw your tidy into it, then click the magnet down

 

[yiddleboge6]

Thanks Bad, we've been waiting for you to help us out on this