Tootle Puffers, Redux (The Sequel)

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Yeah, you may have a point there, since we were all wondering if the reason VT put this on sale so cheaply was to get rid of old stock. I was just going to pour a little into a small clear bottle to check it.

Hmm. If I have to buy 12, when I only need 8, then I would be using the other 4 for mixing in, as well, so yeah, it needs to be amber. Once I get all done with the WTA, I'm probably going to start mixing my strawberry & cream in much larger volume, so yeah, amber glass.

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@AndriaD I've tried but I can't seem to find this VT you are speaking of - Vapor Tek? Vapor Tech? I didn't find nicotine on either of these sites.

And you are making WTAs or using them....? *Confused*
 

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does that B&M have a www site ???

sounds like they (by mistake) quoted you their ON-LINE price
then sold it to you at their in store mark-up...

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Ok, that's better than me thinking it was because I look stupid or some other self-centered thing like that! :banana:
 

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Ok, that's better than me thinking it was because I look stupid or some other self-centered thing like that! :banana:

Nah not you it's just the way some places do business. It's sad but as they say "Let the consumer beware!".
 

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Nah not you it's just the way some places do business. It's sad but as they say "Let the consumer beware!".

Yeah - and I wouldn't have bought it if I had known "up front" that it was $56.95. If they won't take it back, I can send it to a friend who needs a starter kit. :thumb:
 

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One more question - I bought this Provari P3 + 2 Nauti tanks off of eBay for $75.

I notice when I put my "fully charged" batteries in it that they are neither of them at 100% according to the Provari.

I have an older (2 years) 18650 Kamry 2100mah that starts at 73%
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a 3-week old Imren 18650 3000mah 3.7v 40A high drain that starts at 91%

What's up with that?
 

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One more question - I bought this Provari P3 + 2 Nauti tanks off of eBay for $75.

I notice when I put my "fully charged" batteries in it that they are neither of them at 100% according to the Provari.

I have an older (2 years) 18650 Kamry 2100mah that starts at 73%
and
a 3-week old Imren 18650 3000mah 3.7v 40A high drain that starts at 91%

What's up with that?
The older a battery gets the weaker it is. And that Imren is not a 40 amp battery.
 

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Ohhhhhhh! Duh?

This might help you -- Ohm's law | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators

The battery will charge to 4.2v. If the mod is not a variable/regulated mod, then that 4.2 is your baseline for voltage, and as the charge depletes with use, the voltage will drop. If you want to change how it vapes, the wattage, you change the resistance of the coil -- the greater the resistance, the lower the wattage, and vice-versa. Also, the greater the resistance, the less amperage it will draw from the battery, making the battery last longer.

Now I know one of you math geeks will probably pipe up with your "yeah buts", so chill already; I'm trying to explain this in basic terms to someone who is just learning it. No need to make it more complicated!

If you use that Steam Engine calculator, you can set the voltage to 4.2, for a charged battery, plug in the resistance of the coil you're using, and it will tell you what your wattage (power) is. What you said earlier, 5.1v, is probably actually 5.1 watts. The field marked "I", or current, is amperage -- I have no clue why they use "I" or "current" to describe it, because it is amperage; I suspect it's because of some weirdness in the french language, which is what makes Ohm's Law so utterly mystifying -- they use "I" instead of "A". They also use "R" instead of "O" for ohms, but that is a little better, because "R" stands for "resistance," which is what ohms measure.

If I had to try and figure out any of this without that Steam Engine calculator, I would be utterly lost, because I don't speak french, and I cannot remember variables that don't correspond to an English word. Forget trying to remember formulas, such as Ohm's Law, because my mind doesn't work that way.

Hope that helps a little.

Andria
 

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@AndriaD I've tried but I can't seem to find this VT you are speaking of - Vapor Tek? Vapor Tech? I didn't find nicotine on either of these sites.

And you are making WTAs or using them....? *Confused*

It's VapersTek -- sorry!

I use WTA -- I *have* found a link for a way to make it, but if I don't have to, I'd really rather not! The stuff you buy is a lot more refined and purified -- the best possible place to buy it is 15ml WholeCig WTA e-Liquid -- very good stuff, very pure, and a LOT less costly than a nearly identical product from aroma.

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The older a battery gets the weaker it is. And that Imren is not a 40 amp battery.

@Robert Cromwell Is seeing not to be believed, then?

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It's VapersTek -- sorry!

I use WTA -- I *have* found a link for a way to make it, but if I don't have to, I'd really rather not! The stuff you buy is a lot more refined and purified -- the best possible place to buy it is 15ml WholeCig WTA e-Liquid -- very good stuff, very pure, and a LOT less costly than a nearly identical product from aroma.

Andria

THANKY! :thumbs:
 

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This might help you -- Ohm's law | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators

The battery will charge to 4.2v. If the mod is not a variable/regulated mod, then that 4.2 is your baseline for voltage, and as the charge depletes with use, the voltage will drop. If you want to change how it vapes, the wattage, you change the resistance of the coil -- the greater the resistance, the lower the wattage, and vice-versa. Also, the greater the resistance, the less amperage it will draw from the battery, making the battery last longer.

Now I know one of you math geeks will probably pipe up with your "yeah buts", so chill already; I'm trying to explain this in basic terms to someone who is just learning it. No need to make it more complicated!

If you use that Steam Engine calculator, you can set the voltage to 4.2, for a charged battery, plug in the resistance of the coil you're using, and it will tell you what your wattage (power) is. What you said earlier, 5.1v, is probably actually 5.1 watts. The field marked "I", or current, is amperage -- I have no clue why they use "I" or "current" to describe it, because it is amperage; I suspect it's because of some weirdness in the french language, which is what makes Ohm's Law so utterly mystifying -- they use "I" instead of "A". They also use "R" instead of "O" for ohms, but that is a little better, because "R" stands for "resistance," which is what ohms measure.

If I had to try and figure out any of this without that Steam Engine calculator, I would be utterly lost, because I don't speak french, and I cannot remember variables that don't correspond to an English word. Forget trying to remember formulas, such as Ohm's Law, because my mind doesn't work that way.

Hope that helps a little.

Andria

I did try last night looking at the Battery Drain section of the Steam Engine site.

Shoot, a couple of years ago I had the basics of this in my head, but I FORGOT how it works. I will try to wrap my brain around it once more. This is a great explanation and I appreciate it @AndriaD :wub:
 

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One more question - I bought this Provari P3 + 2 Nauti tanks off of eBay for $75.

I notice when I put my "fully charged" batteries in it that they are neither of them at 100% according to the Provari.

I have an older (2 years) 18650 Kamry 2100mah that starts at 73%
and
a 3-week old Imren 18650 3000mah 3.7v 40A high drain that starts at 91%

What's up with that?

Give it a cleaning ... and in particularly take the spring out of the cap and give it a stretch ... more than you think it needs. The spring pressure is the most common problem for low batt readings.

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Also, if you have a voltmeter NOT part of a mod, i.e. a DMM, check the battery voltage right after charging and then again a few hours later. Should be 4.2/4.1 right off charge and stay there. If it doesn't, likely just time to recycle and replace.
 

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Also, if you have a voltmeter NOT part of a mod, i.e. a DMM, check the battery voltage right after charging and then again a few hours later. Should be 4.2/4.1 right off charge and stay there. If it doesn't, likely just time to recycle and replace.

Confused. Why would it be 4.2/4.1ish if it's a 3.7v battery? I'm going to get a nicer charger soon, that does provide this information.
 
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