Tootle Puffers, Redux (The Sequel)

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Just under 5 L of 100 mg nic base. To me that's the key. Flavorings will still be available.

Mixed down and ready? Maybe 300 mls of various flavors.
I'm continuing to buy 500ml every other week/2 times a month until the EU ban appears. Even though I have a feeling nothing will happen. Everything will keep going as usual, just feels so surreal. Although, not what I believe.



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How much juice do you people have right now? :)

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I have about 500ml of several flavors made right now. A gallon each of VG & PG with plenty of nic to make enough for a while.

"Vaper's Tongue" is really the same thing, in most cases, as "olfactory fatigue" -- you grow so accustomed to a certain smell, you no longer smell it? (like the scent of your own home) Applied to taste. Best way to avoid or fix it is to have several (or more) different flavors available and ready to vape at all times, and it's good if they're different "profiles" -- like, a fruit, a tobacco, a pastry, etc.

Tons of water is not necessary unless you're also exercising a lot, or sweating abundantly for any other reason -- as some of us middle-aged ladies can attest ;). But there is such a thing as "water intoxication" from excessive water drinking, and it can kill you. Any liquids that don't contain caffeine, alcohol, or *excessive* sugar work just as well, and that includes foods that contain a lot of liquid - fruit, soup, etc.

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Factory Fatigue, we called it Hopper Hypnosis. I spent 20+ years behind a NYC Sanitation Truck. There were 2 things I always laughed at. When there was a nice humid upper 90's day and people would walk by the truck holding their nose I always asked them if something smelled, and when the rookies got their first day behind the truck it was priceless watching them try to work while gagging. :lol: It's amazing how immune you become to it.!
 
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The ton of H2O comes from the fact I am a pretty hard core coffee fiend and I walk app 10 miles daily to and from work (5 mi each way).

Maybe I should look for one of those triple tanks....

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Yeah if you drink a lot of coffee, you probably do need extra water, since caffeine is a diuretic. However, just replacing the water is not the whole story; you should also be replacing the electrolytes that are being forced out via urination -- all processed foods contain high sodium, so potassium is probably most important, but also magnesium and calcium. Coconut water is the best source for complete hydration, as it's very high in potassium and also has the other electrolytes, but is fairly low in sodium. Sports drinks are fairly useless, as they're just the opposite -- very high in sodium and low in potassium.

I wrestle with this problem pretty much all the time, so much so that since I started vaping, I've had to deal with puffy ankles and sore feet a LOT -- decreasing my caffeine by 75%-80% and drinking coconut water daily is the only way I've found to deal with it.

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I have about 500ml of several flavors made right now. A gallon each of VG & PG with plenty of nic to make enough for a while.



Factory Fatigue, we called it Hopper Hypnosis. I spent 20+ years behind a NYC Sanitation Truck. There were 2 things I always laughed at. When there was a nice humid upper 90's day and people would walk by the truck holding their nose I always asked them if something smelled, and when the rookies got their first day behind the truck it was priceless watching them ty to work while gagging. :lol: It's amazing how immune you become to it.!

I never want to be nearer than about 5 car lengths' from one of those trucks -- and now that I don't have a noseful of cigarette smoke, better make that 10 car lengths. ;)

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Yeah if you drink a lot of coffee, you probably do need extra water, since caffeine is a diuretic. However, just replacing the water is not the whole story; you should also be replacing the electrolytes that are being forced out via urination -- all processed foods contain high sodium, so potassium is probably most important, but also magnesium and calcium. Coconut water is the best source for complete hydration, as it's very high in potassium and also has the other electrolytes, but is fairly low in sodium. Sports drinks are fairly useless, as they're just the opposite -- very high in sodium and low in potassium.

I wrestle with this problem pretty much all the time, so much so that since I started vaping, I've had to deal with puffy ankles and sore feet a LOT -- decreasing my caffeine by 75%-80% and drinking coconut water daily is the only way I've found to deal with it.

Andria
Thanks for the advice. I also know a few old Army tricks for keeping hydrated ;)

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It actually was the supplies I was thinking about ;)

I do have about a 100ml mixed up. Going to mix more later today, tomorrow or something. When I got the time!

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Hmmm. Okay. I have approx. 1 liter of nic base all together (some in the freezer, current bottle in the 'fridge) considering I vape at about 2.5mg strength that is going to last me a loooooog time. And it may be moot in a year or so if I go to 0 nic. As for flavorings. TFA menthol: about 60ml. Koolada: about 30ml. Peppermint: 20ml., half gallon of PG and a quart of VG. Because my total strength for flavors in my base is only 6% that will hold me awhile. (I tried doing the 15% and 25% flavor strength suggested by the "experts"..but, with menthol, that totally made me gag and the menthol burned my nasal passages and throat! Husband vapes a pre-made Double Mint and says my menthol is "too strong" for him at the 6%. Works for me!) Yep. I'm a True Tootler! ...kind of funny considering what a hard core 3-pack-a-day smoker I was for so many years!

I've been debating if I really should get another bottle of nic base. Part of me says "yes" and part of me thinks "why? A bottle lasts you a year or so...and you plan to keep stepping down to 0 don't you?" Then my mind argues about the benefits of nicotine...and I think maybe I won't go down to 0...maybe stay pretty much were I am. Oh, such a dilemma! (I'll probably pick up another few bottles before the hammer drops to keep in the freezer. If nothing else I can use it for my hubby's stuff when that happens).
 

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I've found the first flavor/juice that doesn't make my breath stink (by the vaping). Big watermelon from molinshop.

Tastes more like the candy version of watermelon, but still really good and fresh. I still have milkshake and energy drink left to try. Although I think I'm going to be disappointed with the milkshake.

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How you going to vape that at 8W?
Not sure that i will. But i think it would work with the right coil , driptip and the air pretty much shut down.

Or perhaps my days as a mild mannered Tootle Puffer are ending since I do lung inhales anyway.

My journey to the Klowdside begins?
 

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How much juice do you people have right now? :)

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I DIY with concentrates so approximately 3 years of supplies and about 4 years supply of nic.
We have lived under the cloud of regulation for a while :(

I am no where near as scared of no nicotine as I was in the early days and flavour will always be available as it is used in other things like baking, sweet making etc. I would still vape 0mg as the hand to mouth action is too ingrained.
 

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I DIY with concentrates so approximately 3 years of supplies and about 4 years supply of nic.
We have lived under the cloud of regulation for a while :(

I am no where near as scared of no nicotine as I was in the early days and flavour will always be available as it is used in other things like baking, sweet making etc. I would still vape 0mg as the hand to mouth action is too ingrained.
Some countries have put stuff in the VG/PG to make it unvapeable, or illegalized it to sell to people without license etc.

So they could make it impossible to vape. But then again, the black market. Or we can start producing pg, vg and extract nicotine in hour own house, make our mods out of flashlight and such :p
 

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Hmmm. Okay. I have approx. 1 liter of nic base all together (some in the freezer, current bottle in the 'fridge) considering I vape at about 2.5mg strength that is going to last me a loooooog time. And it may be moot in a year or so if I go to 0 nic. As for flavorings. TFA menthol: about 60ml. Koolada: about 30ml. Peppermint: 20ml., half gallon of PG and a quart of VG. Because my total strength for flavors in my base is only 6% that will hold me awhile. (I tried doing the 15% and 25% flavor strength suggested by the "experts"..but, with menthol, that totally made me gag and the menthol burned my nasal passages and throat! Husband vapes a pre-made Double Mint and says my menthol is "too strong" for him at the 6%. Works for me!) Yep. I'm a True Tootler! ...kind of funny considering what a hard core 3-pack-a-day smoker I was for so many years!

I've been debating if I really should get another bottle of nic base. Part of me says "yes" and part of me thinks "why? A bottle lasts you a year or so...and you plan to keep stepping down to 0 don't you?" Then my mind argues about the benefits of nicotine...and I think maybe I won't go down to 0...maybe stay pretty much were I am. Oh, such a dilemma! (I'll probably pick up another few bottles before the hammer drops to keep in the freezer. If nothing else I can use it for my hubby's stuff when that happens).

Or you could make insecticide with it. :D

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Some countries have put stuff in the VG/PG to make it unvapeable, or illegalized it to sell to people without license etc.

So they could make it impossible to vape. But then again, the black market. Or we can start producing pg, vg and extract nicotine in hour own house, make our mods out of flashlight and such :p

PG and VG both are additives in food; if you purchase "food grade," then it's safe to vape -- it's safe to eat!

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