vaping in public keep it low to keep our rights

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bluecat

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you're just kidding, right?

A few years ago the idiot population of Ohio decided it was in our best interest to put a smoking ban in the State of Ohio's Constitution for public places. It is best left up to the owners of the establishment to decide whether or not they wish to have a smoking policy or not. It was a blatant disregard of property rights.

Fortunately I know of a little bar that closes it's doors to the public at a certain time. They have a great selection of food and a nice tap selection. Ohh let's not forget about their flat screens and humidor of a decent selection of cigars.

If you wish to read the law please find it hear or you can find your own source.

http://www.ohiohistorycentral.org/w/Ohio's_Statewide_Smoking_Ban?rec=2790

Let me highlight their definition....
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Section 1.
3794.01 Definitions.
As used in this chapter:
(A) "Smoking" means inhaling, exhaling, burning, or carrying any lighted cigar, cigarette, pipe, or other lighted smoking device for burning tobacco or any other plant. "Smoking" does not include the burning of incense in a religious ceremony."

Now one can argue the definitions of "lighted", "burning tobacco" and "burning tobacco". If it comes to the courts to decide, I have lost my faith in the courts and "American Freedoms".

Since the new law was challenged by some organizations of the state, the Ohio Supreme court still up held its constitutionality.

Even for 30 years when I smoked, I went outside after dinner. The only places I freely lighted one was a bar or outside. Not because I was hiding or ashamed that I smoked. It was because I respected that others may not want smoking around them. As you have every right to do as you wish within the confines of the law those people around one have their right to be free of it.
 

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(Replying to the original post; I haven't gone through all 9 pages to follow the twists and turns of this thread).

I just use discretion.

If I'm outdoors, among friends/family/co-workers or otherwise in a place where I know it's not gonna freak people out, I'll vape openly.

In situations where I'm likely to get hassled if someone sees me exhaling clouds of "smoke", I'll either stealth-vape or not vape at all. Honestly, I don't find stealth vaping all that satisfying, so there must be a psychological element to it for me as well as the need for a nicotine fix.

I don't think it's a good idea to always vape brazenly or furtively. Letting people see you vape (as opposed to skulking around like a drug addict) "normalizes" the whole idea; I've gotten questions about it from interested bystanders, especially current and former smokers or people who have a loved one who's trying to quit smoking. But arrogantly blowing clouds of vapor in inappropriate settings is not gonna make us any friends. Always stop, think, and use your best judgment.
 

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So I guess if I drink a beer that makes it different if my wife drink a glass a wine or different than my 80 year old mother in law that enjoys Wild Turkey 151 on the rocks?

I hope you have a sense of humor. (Oh please, oh please, oh please :nun: )

One is a redneck, one is high class and one is a lush.


I'm so sorry. I really, really, really could not resist.
 

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Nope. Read it all and agree with it all. With that said, talking on my cell phone while in a movie theater is perfectly legal as well...but I consider people who do it to be rude, inconsiderate, self-centered pigs. If cell phones were facing the same kind of scrutiny/pending legislation that vaping is, I'd be of the opinion that talking on them in inopportune places would be negatively swaying public opinion. I don't act like vaping is illegal at all - I don't hide it, I'm not furtive about it and I take every opportunity to educate people about it - but I also exercise judgment as to where I do it and show some common courtesy to those around me - same as I do while talking on a cell phone.

Agreed

So why we're you lecturing me about it.

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I hope you have a sense of humor. (Oh please, oh please, oh please :nun: )

One is a redneck, one is high class and one is a lush.


I'm so sorry. I really, really, really could not resist.

Thanks... I didn't have the guts to say it...

And Blue is a trooper for laughing



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Every time one of these threads come up I always hear about the rude vaper blowing subohm clouds in little Timmy's face. The reality is I've never seen anyone do anything close to this. Vapers I've met are courteous and level headed. The idea that if we act like smokers and hide what we're doing, will somehow magically result in the govt leaving us alone is rubbish in my opinion.

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Thanks... I didn't have the guts to say it...

And Blue is a trooper for laughing



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I just speak my mind even if it differs. I firmly believe if everyone in the world was the same would would have a pretty boring world. People are allowed to disagree. It is good a thing.

It all good. We are all here because we share in vaping. We just disagree in how to go about doing it.

Yes I can't stand wine. I do like cognac and cigar while wearing a sleeveless t shirt and sporting a farmer's tan.
 

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Look I don't know where you got the impression you could vape anywhere you wanted to. I am sure from Prosmoke simliar to me. If you want to blow up a cloud in a restaurant I am in I will calmly go to the manager and inform him/her. If they do not do anything I will walk out without paying for my dinner.

Ecigs PVs whatever you want to call them will be regulated by states as far as where and when to vape just like smokes. You can bad boy it all you want. Just respect the laws of the state and establishments. When the laws were written.. yes many of these are state laws not allowing smoking in public places or 25 feet from the door.. e cigs weren't heard of.... Now they are out in public... Look what is happening. You can be blind all you want.

Look I was against the laws against smoking. The people voted it into our states constitution. I believe the business owner should be able to choose if they wish to allow smoking or not. I still believe that.

I make a killer brisket man.

if a restaurant decides they dont' want vaping happening inside their walls thats up to them...and i can choose to either eat there or not...so really its up to both of us

why would you leave a restaurant where someone is vaping though? im just curious...restaurants contain all kinds of smells...food cooking, patrons wearing perfume...body odor of dishwashers and so on...

basically you are just admitting to having a visual reaction to vaping...you should fake cough for added effect as i've seen a number of people do at the baseball stadium

when and if the states do try and regulate them i will go to every public hearing and voice my opposition to anything that restricts it...you know why? because theres aboslutely no reason to restrict it...none whatever...if they do make laws anyway...i will abide by them but until they do, i'm going to vape where I want...it isn't my fault that people are ignorant of what I am doing...and it's none of their business what I am doing anyway, say it with me

"you are free to do whatever you want, until you harm someone else"

show me the harm to someone else and i'll cut it out
 

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I just speak my mind even if it differs. I firmly believe if everyone in the world was the same would would have a pretty boring world. People are allowed to disagree. It is good a thing.

It all good. We are all here because we share in vaping. We just disagree in how to go about doing it.

Yes I can't stand wine. I do like cognac and cigar while wearing a sleeveless t shirt and sporting a farmer's tan.

Speaking your mind without a filter can be giving the wrong impression.

You sound like an ANTZ. You will walk out of a restaurant if someone is vaping, you don't see the difference between smoke and vapor equal to drinking beer vs drinking wine vs drinking liquor. My sister who is extremely anti-tobacco isn't as bad as you make yourself sound, I vape at her kitchen table while I couldn't even smoke in her garage.
 

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What if they say you can't vape anywhere inside a certain county?
While I agree that would be even more absurd and egregious, my examples are currently real...

As of 2010 there were 150 beaches where you were not allowed to smoke, and 843 public parks...
The Real Motivation Behind Park And Beach Smoking Bans - Forbes

The baseball stadium here where the Padres play does not allow smoking OR vaping already.
You have to exit the entire stadium to smoke or vape.

And there are lots of college and hospital campuses that don't allow smoking anywhere on the premises, including the parking lot.
And a lot of these have already rolled vaping into those bans.

People who don't stand up and fight are going to get what they deserve.
 

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Every time one of these threads come up I always hear about the rude vaper blowing subohm clouds in little Timmy's face. The reality is I've never seen anyone do anything close to this. Vapers I've met are courteous and level headed. The idea that if we act like smokers and hide what we're doing, will somehow magically result in the govt leaving us alone is rubbish in my opinion.
Not only that, but it's one of most illogical arguments I can think of...

Don't vape where you're not allowed to smoke so that they won't pass laws that say we can't vape where we can't smoke?
Isn't that basically saying we should do what they want, so they don't make us do what they want?

And while we're sitting there hiding in corners to vape, they are ALREADY running around the country passing laws to do this very thing anyway.
 
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