What's your favorite cartridge filler?
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Hmmm, now you all got me thinking of the holy grail of wicks. Anybody tried ShamWow?
Thats funny, I have been eyeballin my shop towels for a few days now.
I voted other because I have tried almost everything with mixed results. The teabags work good at first but if stored very long they seem to start biodegrading and taste bad, kinda rotten. Coffee filters work well to but they seem to add a dry taste to the juice or just change the flavor some way. The poly batting works very well but it turns hard and melts quickly after a few cart fulls and just quits working as good.
I went to Wally world last week to pick up some Brew Rite to try cleaning my attys and thought about trying some wool yarn as I heard it might work. Well they don't carry wool yarn but I did notice that the yarn they had was made of acrylic. I have read that the original cart filler was acrylic so I got a no dye lot, soft white roll for 2.00.
I tried it a few ways, first I tried several strands until I found that three was just right for a 510 cart. I simply tied one piece in the middle of another and clipped off the fourth strand. It works like the original so far, no burnt taste like the poly after just a few carts and seems to burn more liquid before topping off. So far I am getting about 6-8 drops in for a top off while the poly batting only held three or four. It is also tasteless unlike some other materials I tried.
While the strands worked fine for a long cart the knot just seemed silly on a 4081 cartridge. I put several strands together and using an old toothbrush I combed through it to see if it would separate into hairlike strands like nylon does. It did and the loose fibers work great on my N-Pro carts and can be vaped until dry. I may have to start using the 4081's again as a few prefilled carts will make it a lot less trouble then the batting. It might work good with a 510 as well but is a little labor intensive for such a large cart.
For two bucks this will last for years.
Shadow, I am having a hard time picturing this. Do you have a picture you can share?
Did you just tie 3 strands together with another pice of yarn??
Did you just tie 3 strands together with another pice of yarn??
I took two peices a few inches long and tied one in the middle of the other and then clipped one off so you end up with a knot with three strands. Push the knotted end in with paper clip and cut off excess.
first post for me - i am still in pre-vape mode -
been reading a lot in this forum and once i found this topic i thought of the butchers or cooking twine that i have - i think it is hemp - i got a piece of it and i notice that it unravels to very fine threads - i can hardly wait to try the twine or the teabags or the coffee filters or anything besides the crap i have been puffing for over 35 years now
i haven't received my orders yet but to make a long story short - at first i saw a few kits for over $ 100 then i saw the blu cigs ( don't ban me yet ! ) well it didn't take very long before i got wise and canceled that order ( was back ordered anyway ) and i am waiting on a fine e-smokeytreats joye 510 ( thanks to the great advice i got from this forum ) -
by the time all the stuff that i ordered gets here - i will have spent about $250 and have
6 batteries ( 4 regular 510's and 3 usb 3.7 v types )
4 attys
1 ppc
1 usb passthrough
small carry case for the 510
a couple dozen blank carts
and about 320 ml of juice ( 230ml of 36mg and 90 ml of 24mg )
( my wife is going to scream bloody murder )
but after i tell her that i have about 9 months worth of vapor and if i quit the sour leaf -then in only 2 months or so - the cost will be defrayed -
i hope she will understand
i smoke buglar roll your owns and use a little plastic filter - but i cut holes in the baffle so that it barely blocks some of the tar
it used to be bad enough when the cans were $ 12 - then we were only spending about $45 a month - but then they went to $ 32 a can - woah - now it is $ 125 a month !
i shorum glad i found this forum ' cause i'm burnin for learnin how to vape like an ape so i can stop huffing and puffing the sour leaf of grief like a monkey who's a junkie so i'll feel a bit more spunky with more money for my honey and maybe for my baby i can smell good like i should
ok now i am getting silly <- must be the euphoria rubbing off from all the smoke free-ers around here
been reading a lot in this forum and once i found this topic i thought of the butchers or cooking twine that i have - i think it is hemp - i got a piece of it and i notice that it unravels to very fine threads - i can hardly wait to try the twine or the teabags or the coffee filters or anything besides the crap i have been puffing for over 35 years now
i haven't received my orders yet but to make a long story short - at first i saw a few kits for over $ 100 then i saw the blu cigs ( don't ban me yet ! ) well it didn't take very long before i got wise and canceled that order ( was back ordered anyway ) and i am waiting on a fine e-smokeytreats joye 510 ( thanks to the great advice i got from this forum ) -
by the time all the stuff that i ordered gets here - i will have spent about $250 and have
6 batteries ( 4 regular 510's and 3 usb 3.7 v types )
4 attys
1 ppc
1 usb passthrough
small carry case for the 510
a couple dozen blank carts
and about 320 ml of juice ( 230ml of 36mg and 90 ml of 24mg )
( my wife is going to scream bloody murder )
but after i tell her that i have about 9 months worth of vapor and if i quit the sour leaf -then in only 2 months or so - the cost will be defrayed -
i hope she will understand
i smoke buglar roll your owns and use a little plastic filter - but i cut holes in the baffle so that it barely blocks some of the tar
it used to be bad enough when the cans were $ 12 - then we were only spending about $45 a month - but then they went to $ 32 a can - woah - now it is $ 125 a month !
i shorum glad i found this forum ' cause i'm burnin for learnin how to vape like an ape so i can stop huffing and puffing the sour leaf of grief like a monkey who's a junkie so i'll feel a bit more spunky with more money for my honey and maybe for my baby i can smell good like i should
ok now i am getting silly <- must be the euphoria rubbing off from all the smoke free-ers around here
Hi Arizona ... Minnesota here.
I asked a similar question about wool on another thread. I wanted to know if anyone used "real" wool from sheep/lambs/whatever, since Johnson Creek refers to "wool" in their carts. I was a little confused, because some people wrote "wool" on the other thread, when it sounded like they were talking about "polyester". Terraphon replied that some people use the terms "wool" and "poly" interchangeably.
Then, Shadowdr said that he looked at Wally world for wool yarn, but ended up buying some acrylic yarn, and he's trying that now.
The Johnson Creek cart material does look and feel different to me than polyester fiber stuffing, and I thought it held fluid better than anything else that I've tried so far. I tried some poly that I had on hand after I read about how many people were using that, and thought it tasted terrible ... but that could have just been the type that I had (it had that silky feel like someone else had mentioned).
I got a few boxes of blank cartridges from Johnson Creek when they had them on sale recently, and I sacrificed one in the name of science today. There are tests that are easy to do to tell if a fiber is wool, acrylic, polyester, etc., and what the basic properties are when you burn them. I was unable to post the URL because I haven't made 15 posts yet, but if anyone's interested in a more comprehensive list (and wants to sacrifice any more cart material) I got the info. from the carpet industry after searching "fiber identification", but it's all the same fiber that we're discussing.
Here's a quick copy/paste about identifying the fibers that we're mainly talking about:
Wool
The test of wool is very easy. If it is wet, it smells like a wet dog. There is another test namely the burn test. For this test use a butane lighter to melt or ignite an unknown fiber. This will help you in the determination of its types. Butane lighter avoids masking the odor of the burning fiber. Burned wool smells like burned hair. Moreover wool dissolves in undiluted chlorine bleach.
Acrylic
If the fiber is acrylic it will melt and shrink as soon as the flame comes into its proximity. The fiber burns with lot of smoke rapidly with bright, sputtering flame. Even after it has been withdrawn from the flame it continues to burn, melts, and drips. It has an acrid odor and results in a hard, irregular black bead.
Polyester
Polyester too melts and shrinks from an approaching flame. It burns and melt slowly. Melting takes place in drips. While burning it smells sweet and
produces a hard, shiny black or brown bead.
I did the burn test with both the poly filling and with the JC cart filling, and I'm pretty sure that the JC is real wool material. The wool burned into an irregular black chunk that you could crumble into ash ... where the poly burned into a HARD black chunk. I'm going to get some of that wool material through the Joanne Fabrics link, and I'll let you know how that works. In the meantime, I'm going to be washing and fluffing my old material ... and looking for a deal on blank carts, because I'm heading on a road trip soon, and have already experienced the pain of dripping and driving.
Hi all,
I was sick of the gross burnt plastic tastes from the cartridge filter materials, so I decided to use Hemp rope. I had a big roll of it and figured that it would work because it can take some heat and doesn't really absorb too much.
My result was fantastic. I get huge vapor plumes and the only burnt taste I get, if the atomizer gets too hot, is a slight hemp flavor.
I'll take the hemp over melted polyfill any day!
Hope this helps others,
Cantstop
I was sick of the gross burnt plastic tastes from the cartridge filter materials, so I decided to use Hemp rope. I had a big roll of it and figured that it would work because it can take some heat and doesn't really absorb too much.
My result was fantastic. I get huge vapor plumes and the only burnt taste I get, if the atomizer gets too hot, is a slight hemp flavor.
I'll take the hemp over melted polyfill any day!
Hope this helps others,
Cantstop
thanks for that - i finally got my 510 and for 4 days now i am a citizen of smoke free vaporville - and since it worked well for you - i will try it -
i am just curious about what model e-cig you are using and how does the hemp filter compare to the original -
i e how many drops does it take to top it off when it needs it etc and does it seem to wick up more of the juice between top offs than the original - does it seem to work better at first then slowly begin to wick less and less between top offs ?
that is what i find from the original carts - to start with - when i first need to top it off - i can put anywhere from 4 - 7 drops - but as time goest by - after about a day - then i find that the wicking action deminishes and i can only put about 3 or 4 drops per top off
thanks again
I am using the DSE801 and the Janty Dura-C.
I am using my own concoction eliquid.
I don't know how long most eliquids last before topping off but I think it is around 10-15 puff which is the same as a cigarette.
For refilling, it is best to use a syringe or a paper clip to push down to the end of the cart in order to drip the liquid all the way to the end.
i tried using hemp twine and the first try i think i didn't get it dense enough and it all pushed down into the cart too far after a little bit
this next time i got the idea that instead of taking all the fiberfill out that i would just put a small bit of the hemp twine on top of the fiberfill
i first took about a 5 inch piece of twine and frayed it out a bit by untwisting it and then i just folded it over several times until it was about as wide as the opening of the cart and then i just laid it down horizontally on top of the fiberfill
so far seems to work
i wonder if this way might work for the other types of alternate fillers ?
like the coffee filters and the tea bags - instead of removing all the fiberfill - just take a small patch of the coffee filter or tea bag and put it on top of the fiberfill and lay it down flatly on top not rolled and standing up lengthwise with the cart
maybe it will still wick the atty and also keep the fibers out and now you don't have to worry about getting the density of the alternate filler just right
I used a hemp rope that is designed for cat scratching posts and it is about 1/4 inch in diameter. This size fit tightly in the cartridge.
I use new fiberfill each time. Always a clean taste. I don't pack it nearly as tight as from the factory and let some stick out the top so I can singe it with my lighter. It burns off the strays and makes it nice and even across the top and there aren't the strays to get hung up on the atomizer. I've got to use my lighter for something....right? When I get tired of a flavor or just want something different I pull the fiberfill out and put it in a bottle with a lid in the fridge. When it gets full I put them all in a hypo syringe and squeeze the juice out in a another bottle and reuse it. I end up with something that tastes like redbulcoffevancheriapplementhol. I can't pronouce it but it tastes better than it sounds.
Me too, cant get teabags to work well or the paper towel. I am usint the Janty blank carts they work ok for me and they dont have that big golp of white glue in the bottom. I thiink the fluffy is heavier too. One thing I have noticed when my cart is done, it seems to have wicked up a lot of moisture, not really e- liquid but more like condensation. It is not juice I squeeze out, it looks like water. I use a Janty Stick.
While working on a watercolor painting yesterday, I got the bright idea to try one of my natural sea sponges. It worked really well but I dont know how safe they are to vape. They come from the ocean so should be ok. I sterilized it first and it looks gnarly but seems to work great. It just takes a small piece to fill up a cart. Am on my second day and toped up several times, time witll tell.
BTW Pete that pv pic on your post is very awesome looking. Is that a mod?
I find the "fish tank stuff" looks, feels and performs most like what blank or filled carts do. Cheap and easy to hand "cut" and mold though scissors do make it prettier. This along with the tube mod has been rocking on easy fill and almost full drain for both my 901 and 801 carts.
i was thinking about trying that. they use cotton stuffing like that in zippos. i may have to pick up some cotton balls and give that a try
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