Who here is not stocking up in preparation for the May 12th, 2020 Deadline?

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ALso do a hunt on youtube. Many stock coils can be rebuilt to reuse them. I have had very good luck rebuilding Kanger subtank coils, TFV8 Baby beast coils, protank coils and nautilus coils. Maybe not the optimal situation since you will have to learn to build but it is an option.

I’ve been trying to figure out what is used for the “outside” wicking of many stock coils. It’s definitely not regular cotton as it’s difficult to break. Do you have any ideas?
 

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I’ve been trying to figure out what is used for the “outside” wicking of many stock coils. It’s definitely not regular cotton as it’s difficult to break. Do you have any ideas?
I would guess gauze of some sort. Most of the coils I rebuild I just yank it out and fill with cotton (TFV8 Baby beast, Kanger subtank). The nautilus I leave the outer cover in place and just change out the inner coil/wicking.
 

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I’ve been trying to figure out what is used for the “outside” wicking of many stock coils. It’s definitely not regular cotton as it’s difficult to break. Do you have any ideas?

BTW - If you Don't have any Gauze, and don't want to make a special trip for some, you can use the "Skin" off of a Cotton Pad.

Re-Wicking Update:

So I got thinking about the Wicking Sleeve that goes between the Air Head cover and the Coil. And decided to Re-Wick the Head using a 2 Ply piece of Coffee Filter Paper.

Not Good. Not Good at all. Easy to Cut and to put in. But a One Way Ticket to Dry Hit City.

So I tried doing 1 Ply of Coffee Paper Filter.

Better. But still on the Edge of a Dry Hit when doing a Back-2-Back Hit.

All the Gauze Pads I had Smelled Funky. Or had that ER Smell of Stitches and Blue Cross Cards. Didn't want to use them. And My bag of Pyramid Tea Bags seems to have gone MIA. But I got a Brilliant Idea while looking at the Remnants of my Coil Re-Wicking.

How about the "Skin" off a Cotton Pad?

Seemed to be about the right Density. And I peel off the Skin anyway when I make a Coil Wick. What the Heck. It is like 2 Bizzilion Degrees outside. Aint going to CVS in this Heat.

It was a kinda a PITA to get it in Place. Wetting it slightly helped. So did a Few Choice Words and Threats of BIC Lighter Incineration.

Got it Going and it seems to have the Right Amount of Gurgle and Popping. Not getting any Dry Hits. And will have to let it sit for awhile on a Atty Stand to see if it Floods.

But So Far, So Good.

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I'm late to this thread but I would have to admit that I am not stocking up. I have a few mods. Batteries are always available. Rebuilding supplies like wire, cotton, etc. are always available. I have never done DIY juice and I'm comfortable that the juice I like will be around past the May deadline. After that, it could get a little dicey depending on where this all goes. I might be begging at the foot of many DIY'ers to learn how.

And there will always be the gray and black markets. Not my preference but if the politicians are going to be that stupid (yes, I know, they frequently are!) then look out, there's a new vape gangster! Vapeshinin' here I come!
 

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BTW - If you Don't have any Gauze, and don't want to make a special trip for some, you can use the "Skin" off of a Cotton Pad.



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Thanks so much, this is very helpful. I have gauze, I think I’ll boil it in distilled water before trying it. I’m super paranoid about what I inhale. When I pulled out the outside wick material I was reminded of those soft almost fabric like towels but gauze would probably work quite well
 

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I'm late to this thread but I would have to admit that I am not stocking up. I have a few mods. Batteries are always available. Rebuilding supplies like wire, cotton, etc. are always available. I have never done DIY juice and I'm comfortable that the juice I like will be around past the May deadline. After that, it could get a little dicey depending on where this all goes. I might be begging at the foot of many DIY'ers to learn how.

And there will always be the gray and black markets. Not my preference but if the politicians are going to be that stupid (yes, I know, they frequently are!) then look out, there's a new vape gangster! Vapeshinin' here I come!
It's not just the May deadline to worry about. There is a bill on the floor to add a $2750 tax on a 1 liter bottle of 100mg.... and as far as your existing liquid, did the manufacturer submit a PMTA for that specific flavor and mg? And if they did, it still does not mean it will pass.
 
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BTW - If you Don't have any Gauze, and don't want to make a special trip for some, you can use the "Skin" off of a Cotton Pad.



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It seems like most of the outer wick is press fit in so I imagine it’ll be hard to get in nicely.
 
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It's not just the may deadline to worry about. There is a bill on the floor to add a $2750 tax on a 1 liter bottle of 100mg.... and as far as your existing liquid, did the manufacturer submit a PMTA for that specific flavor and mg? And if they did, it still does not mean it will pass.

BigPappa, I'm sweating a bit but no panic here. My juices are being submitted and that will add some time. I also think that things are SLOWLY turning around a bit. There is still plenty of potential for it to all go in the crapper but I'm willing to advocate and watch for while before I get too concerned about my personal supply.

Call me an optimist. It wouldn't be the first time on this forum. ;) Time will tell.
 

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BigPappa, I'm sweating a bit but no panic here. My juices are being submitted and that will add some time. I also think that things are SLOWLY turning around a bit. There is still plenty of potential for it to all go in the crapper but I'm willing to advocate and watch for while before I get too concerned about my personal supply.

Call me an optimist. It wouldn't be the first time on this forum. ;) Time will tell.
Check your state for vaping laws, the states are getting worse than the Feds
 

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Check your state for vaping laws, the states are getting worse than the Feds
Agreed! My screwed up state of Florida has some really messed up stuff going on that looks like it is on track to pass, like an 85% tax and the banning of online sales. :(
 

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Okay. But I wasn't arguing- just providing info to help someone, and never said or implied one should or could ignore battery safety.
Okay. But I wansn't arguing. Just providing correct info to help someone who got incorrect/misguided info from you, as the "just" in "just DIY juice & coils" logically does imply the exclusion of battery safety, and that is still regardless of whether you were or weren't arguing.
So I guess your argument fails because it's not with something I wrote, but something you thought you saw between the lines.
I may not be a native speaker of English, but no, the word "just" was inside the lines, not between them. It is right there for everyone to see so I don't guess your argument fails, rather, I am just providing correct info to help someone by correctly pointing out you are just trying to use an invalid excuse the kind of which also is typifying of those who sustain bias by selectively mentioning squat about the risks associated with regulated mods while at the same time also selectively spotlighting the risks associated with mech mods. This is not something between the lines. Rather, it is something between your ears where it is best kept, and, if I may be so bold to say so sir, the more you try to talk yourself out of it, the more apparent it gets.
Sorry you didn't like the choice of words, but I'm glad you provided useful information this time.
This has got nothing to do with not liking the choice of words. This is about your blatant scaremongering against mechs, which not only is completely uncalled for, but also it is downright belittling of those who might be interested in learning about mechs.
And I'm glad we can agree- this paragraph echoes almost exactly what I said 10 posts above yours, about looking for a mech to maybe use later if all my regulated mods died, and needing to learn more before using it.
Only difference... each time when it comes to a discussion about mechs, I don't feel the obsessive compulsion to steer people away from the possible decision of learning immediately how to separate fact from fiction.
 
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soooo......all of them???
No, not all of the mechs I have are shown in the pic I posted. Only about half of them are... it's been an expensive hobby because most of the ones I have are worth more than a few hundred each, and in fact some of them are over $1k so I guess it's fair to say the rabbit hole runs deep, very deep. :)
 

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Okay. But I wansn't arguing. Just providing correct info to help someone who got incorrect/misguided info from you, as the "just" in "just DIY juice & coils" logically does imply the exclusion of battery safety, and that is still regardless of whether you were or weren't arguing.

I may not be a native speaker of English, but no, the word "just" was inside the lines, not between them. It is right there for everyone to see so I don't guess your argument fails, rather, I am just providing correct info to help someone by correctly pointing out you are just trying to use an invalid excuse the kind of which also is typifying of those who sustain bias by selectively mentioning squat about the risks associated with regulated mods while at the same time also selectively spotlighting the risks associated with mech mods. This is not something between the lines. Rather, it is something between your ears where it is best kept, and, if I may be so bold to say so sir, the more you try to talk yourself out of it, the more apparent it gets.

This has got nothing to do with not liking the choice of words. This is about your blatant scaremongering against mechs, which not only is completely uncalled for, but also it is downright belittling of those who might be interested in learning about mechs.

Only difference... each time when it comes to a discussion about mechs, I don't feel the obsessive compulsion to steer people away from the possible decision of learning immediately how to separate fact from fiction.
Okay. Not sure if you're capable of walking around with that 100 lb. chip on your shoulder, but have fun here, drip. I'll leave it at that, and let everyone discuss stocking vs. not stocking.
 

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Okay. Not sure if you're capable of walking around with that 100 lb. chip on your shoulder, but have fun here, drip. I'll leave it at that, and let everyone discuss stocking vs. not stocking.
What makes you think I have a chip on my shoulder? I was merely providing info to help people who might stumble across this thread in the future by making it easier for them so see who is spreading all the BS.
 

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I’ve been trying to figure out what is used for the “outside” wicking of many stock coils. It’s definitely not regular cotton as it’s difficult to break. Do you have any ideas?

It seems like most of the outer wick is press fit in so I imagine it’ll be hard to get in nicely.

Well, the thing is, your best bet is to try recoiling/rewicking your heads without those thin cotton sheets first. Just because the manufacturer uses those thin sheets it doesn't mean you can't use regular cotton pads. So try it first, worry later. Cotton isn't going anywhere - it's just cotton. These organic cotton sheets we vapers use - like Koh Gen Do - have been sold for years as cosmetic removal pads and such.
 

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Check your state for vaping laws, the states are getting worse than the Feds

I'm lucky in that I am in Mississippi and we have a pretty strong lobby and have kept almost all those laws from going anywhere.

In addition, I am part of the team for Paradigm Vape News and have been keeping up quite closely with all the states in the US and provinces in Canada and what laws, call to action, etc. are out there. They are getting crazy but many of these silly bills are being defeated. There are areas like New Jersey that have gotten it through but there is a bit of a change in the wind. We need some legislation and some regulation. We just need it to be sensible. As more advocates get that and push to guide regulation rather than deny all of it, I am seeing some shift.

We are far from out of the woods but our efforts are beginning to make a difference. Plus, let's face it...as time goes on, people in this country get bored of the latest crisis and begin ignoring it and so do the politicians. There is a lot of work to do but I see that the work is beginning to have some effect.

I prefer realistic hope to optimism but I'll accept either term to describe my stance. :D
 
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