Why Do People Knowingly Buy Clones?

[Bad Ninja]

I would be willing to wager those who only buy fakes have multiple fakes; even enough or more to buy more than one genuine mod and atty...


Buying genuine things has nothing to do with status; buying knockoffs does...

Paying ten times market value to own an "authentic" is 100%all about status.
That's the ONLY reason people pay more for a name brand. Don't pretend it isn't.

I have authentic mods and clones. The only differences are price and customer service ( wanna guess who has better customer service?)


The few authentic mods I own are from the very few that know how to run a business and price their products realistically.
Blindly supporting authentic mod companies that run shoddy business are the only reason clones exist.
China loves and thanks you for all you and your fellow elitists do.

 

[Strings]

Buying genuine things has nothing to do with status; buying knockoffs does...

This statement makes no sense

How is it that buying a clone has something to do with "status", but buying an authentic doesn't? If buying a clone confers some percieved status, then buying an authentic has the same effect (maybe moreso).

But for either to be true, there must be some thought OF "status" on the part of the purchaser. How do those of us who don't give a damn about the thoughts of others fit into your little worldview?

 

[stevegmu]

Paying ten times market value to own an "authentic" is 100%all about status.
That's the ONLY reason people pay more for a name brand. Don't pretend it isn't.

I have authentic mods and clones. The only differences are price and customer service ( wanna guess who has better customer service?)


The few authentic mods I own are from the very few that know how to run a business and price their products realistically.
Blindly supporting authentic mod companies that run shoddy business are the only reason clones exist.
China loves and thanks you for all you and your fellow elitists do.

Market value is what consumers are willing to pay...My genuine devices come from SvoeMesto...

Buying fake copies with logos and exact design is all about status, not function- same as with those who buy fake Rolexes and purses...

 

[pancing]

I would be willing to wager those who only buy fakes have multiple fakes; even enough or more to buy more than one genuine mod and atty...


Buying genuine things has nothing to do with status; buying knockoffs does...

What do you mean buying genuine things has nothing to do with status.

People that buy authentic things, IE prada, gucci, rolex etc etc... mean that they can afford those things, meaning their status in society is high or at least the perception is.

People that buy knockoffs to show them off are mimicking the notion that they like nice things therefore they buy what they can afford.

This convo derailed just like the whole notion of vaping.

Vaping has and always will be a healthier and cheaper way to quit smoking and or quit inhaling things that shouldn't be in our lungs altogether.
If people want to spend money on authentics because they have more money to spend now that they stopped smoking 1-2 packs a day, that's great! More power to them.
But people like me that buy clones don't have the money or want to spend money on authentics.
So until the law cracks down on counterfit or replica mods or the FDA takes over, I'll gladly exploit the fact that its considerably cheaper to vape via clones.

Bottom line is this, You Can't Beat China.

At the end of the day, its your money, vape however you want just as long as you stay away from those death sticks.

 

[Bikenstein]

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[Bad Ninja]

Market value is what consumers are willing to pay...My genuine devices come from SvoeMesto...

Buying fake copies with logos and exact design is all about status, not function- same as with those who buy fake Rolexes and purses...

Lol
Rolexes are jewelry. They are horribly outdated watches that require expensive yearly maintenance to keep time as well as a Timex.
Pure status symbol.

You are only attacking other because clones devalue your authentic status symbol.


After the Footoon fiasco, you might want to rethink what "buying authentic" gets you.
In at least one instance, those $200 attys were made in the same shop as the $29 "clone".

 

[pancing]

Lol
Rolexes are jewelry. They are horribly outdated watches that require expensive yearly maintenance to keep time as well as a Timex.
Pure status symbol.

You are only attacking other because clones devalue your authentic status symbol.


After the Footoon fiasco, you might want to rethink what "buying authentic" gets you.
In at least one instance, those $200 attys were made in the same shop as the $29 "clone".

I think he's agreeing with you, man.

 

[Bikenstein]

Look, all you people that have clones, don't show them off in public. It makes some of the people with authentics upset because they think the public will believe everybody owns a real one like they do. Or you could take a white marker and write clone on your mod. Then everybody would be happy. Simple

 

[stevegmu]

Lol
Rolexes are jewelry. They are horribly outdated watches that require expensive yearly maintenance to keep time as well as a Timex.
Pure status symbol.

You are only attacking other because clones devalue your authentic status symbol.


After the Footoon fiasco, you might want to rethink what "buying authentic" gets you.
In at least one instance, those $200 attys were made in the same shop as the $29 "clone".

But I have a job so am an elitist... What do I care if my genuine attys are devalued? I will never sell them... Odd only those who prefer 'clones' talk about status, yet they buy lookalikes to appear to be elitist and have fake status?

 

[Bad Ninja]

Most people I know buy clones because of the way the individual
Device functions.
They want to try out the functionality without paying $200
For the latest interpretation of a flashlight.

Find me a happy owner of a legit Origen mod.
The device was hyped to no end and is a total piece of garbage.
Worst switch design ever.
I bought a clone, then inspected a legit Origen. Identical. Both horrible.
Of I had bought a legit one I would have probably went back to cigs.
I have never seen anyone with a clone represent it as original.
It's not about status.
It's mostly about a 900% price difference on an identical device.

 

[Strings]

Odd only those who prefer 'clones' talk about status, yet they buy lookalikes to appear to be elitist and have fake status?

Funny... you're the one bringing up "status"

 

[stevegmu]

Funny... you're the one bringing up "status"

You may want to read back a few posts...

 

[AndriaD]

I haven't given a rat's patootie what anyone thinks of me or anythng I do in probably 40 yrs. I bought a Kayfun clone because a) everyone said the Kayfun was an outstanding vape, and 2) the Tobecos only cost me $32.95 each. They don't have any logos on them at all, and no, for the price of both of them put together, I couldn't buy even one "authentic". If the authentics are better than these, then they must heal the sick, give sight to the blind, and walk on water. And they damn well ought to, considering what they cost. I'm not going to pay $65 more so it says "svoemesto" on it. In fact, the reason I won't buy a Smok pyrex cartotank is because it says "Smok" on it in big humongous letters. If I buy a product, I don't expect to have to advertise it too -- for that, they should pay ME.

Andria

 

[Strings]

Give me a quote, Steve. I don't have time to comb through the thread for a post I have no memory of.

Even if you find one: how does that explain people (like me) who picked up a clone because the features sounded desirable, but the authentic was way out of price range?

 

[stevegmu]

Give me a quote, Steve. I don't have time to comb through the thread for a post I have no memory of.

Even if you find one: how does that explain people (like me) who picked up a clone because the features sounded desirable, but the authentic was way out of price range?

Those mods are still more expensive then many clones. Not to mention form factor. If you don't like the form or function of one of those mods, you have to stick to an ego battery? When you can get one you do like for $30? Not to mention a lot of people also WOULDN'T stay quit with ego batteries. I used one for less then a month when I realized it wasn't enough for me. You are still looking at this subjectively.... Because you can afford an authentic and that's what you prefer..... Then that's what we all should do. If you are truly worried about theft of "intellectual property" then I hope you aren't using ANY mech mod, since they are all just cosmetic differences on the same mechanical principle.
I don't mind if someone prefers to buy authentics.... We should all spend our money how we see fit, in a way that brings us satisfaction. What bothers me is when someone rides the authentic "high horse" and spouting arguments proven false many times over. The authentics are better....... While sometimes true, not always, and becoming less and less so, with clones now often making improvements that the authentics SHOULD have came with.
Clones are stealing business from authentic modders.......k..... Explain how there is waiting lists for them if they are losing business?
You should buy used authentic instead of clones.......... Why? In what way does buying a used mod further that modders business? Is that used mod seller going to send any of that money to the original modder? By the harm to modders argument, buying used is just as harmful. But by and large that is NOT why people buy authentics.... If it was they wouldn't make the used argument. No, people will always be there to buy authentic, even when you can show a clone of that mod just as good or better in some cases...why? Status.
Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.

And there are many more. I just turn it around on them. To think one buys genuine things for status or is in the 1% of earners because they don't buy counterfeits is just absurd. Most people here smoked. How much did they spend on cigarettes/year?

 

[chomper33]

Authentic vape products can not officially be a status symbol until there is a rap song about them. I think that's how it works isn't it?

 

[HaveNoIdea]

Money is always a question, isn't it?

 

[USMCotaku]

I would be willing to wager those who only buy fakes have multiple fakes; even enough or more to buy more than one genuine mod and atty...


Buying genuine things has nothing to do with status; buying knockoffs does...

I'm sure many clone buyers have many clone devices.....i have 3. But, like me, I'm sure quite a bit of time passes between the purchase of each, as it was for me. Again you are incapable of objectivity, projecting your situation on all of us. How is it so hard for you to grasp that some of us can absolutely not afford the exorbitant prices of most authentics? Lets build a set up......mod... Lets not go crazy and just get a $200 one.......opps, still need an atty..... That's $150, cool, can we vape now..... Oh wait, still need battery, charger, wire, wick, juice, should probably throw in an ohm meter unless you pay someone else to build for you. How does that translate into "a couple of cartons" in price? But wait, you mean to tell me I can get all of this stuff for less then the price of just the authentic atty? Will it do the same thing? Wait, you say that this one here works even better then the original? Less voltage drop?
Yes, I brought up the status point, and I stand behind it. I've never known someone to try and pass of a clone as an authentic. They tend to be people like myself, who like a particular style, and can't afford the authentic, so we get what we like for a tenth of the price. In what way is someone who pays 10x the price for something that looks and works the same not doing so for status? At least with something like a luxury car there is a discernable difference. Would you pay $100,000 for a ford escort?

 

[BlkWolfMidnight]

Wow,

Ok, really I'm shaking my head here and not even logic can play in to this one.
Authentic or clone, does it matter-not really, its your money spend it as you want, if you need the BMW, designer clothes and diamond rings then get to it but I don't nor do I care to.

Don't go name dropping, this isn't high school so stop acting like it... No one is running around claiming status symbols because of clone or not, and for the love of everything good who the heck cares. Do you think that the rest of the world cares that you have an Authentic mod at 200$, no they don't. So yes to run around puffing your chest out is doing nothing more the validating that you need that status symbol and guess what....only a small tiny group of community members will ever care (Called a "clique" if you were wondering).

Vaping to the rest of the world is a scary, dangerous habit that they don't understand, there is no status symbol associated to a mod for anyone else. Furthermore have we lost touch as to what really matters, mods and devices are to help you quit smoking cigs, if a clone gets you there then fine, if its an authentic then fine. Riddle me this why does it even matter WHAT you vape on, I'd be more concerned at the point that IF IT WORKS to get you off those cigs because isn't that why we all looked in to this. Yah its early morning and I haven't had my coffee to read this childish banter back and forth on a point that is so irrelevant that I've no clue why I'm paying mind to it at all. My mod is neither expensive or cheap, it is what KEEPS me off the cigs and for that it is priceless, that is all that matters to me and all that should matter to you as well.

 

[Bikenstein]

Whenever I'm in public, I flash my Rose V2 clone. Most of the people around get all google eyed at it and even whisper to each other. Some of em get a little angry cause they know I'm just showin off. It makes me feel good cause I know they are wishin they could get one. They have no idea it's fake and don't even pay attention to my Walmart "ensemble". It sure does feel good to be envied and admired like that. But then I go home and the wife yells from a back room "Trash!" Take the trash out!" and I'm back to normal again. Does anybody make a ProVari clone?
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