Why you guys think Provari is expensive??

[ukeman]

Go ahead and try to make a Provari... see what it costs.
It's not like these are cheap cookie cutter thin dinky pv's.
Unless they thought they'd sell like hotcakes, they aren't going to work up a Ford factory line.
They cost more to produce = more to buy.
I think they're made in America too.
The Lava Tube is more what some of you are looking for. You get what you pay for. I'll bet they have plans and equipment to mass produce a boat load.

Ounce for ounce you get more bang for your buck with an eGo (Lava Tube), ...but it's not a Provari.

 

[Ravenscroft]

I just think they are ugly, could afford one but the looks just turn me off. Just a personal thing really.

RC

 

[ukeman]

Beauty is what beauty does... vape.

 

[landscaper]

If you go to this thread http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modding-forum/246093-electronique-lavatube-picture.html


you will see the internal electronics for both the lava tube and the provari. Doesn't seem like much of a difference to me, which is what I figured all a long. Provari is Stainless Steel and the Lava tube is aluminum. $50 for a Lava Tube or $200 for a Provari.

Seems like a no brainer to me.

Dave

 

[landscaper]

I read just the first page and this is my take....

I went for economy and researched the poo out of e-cigs before buying. I got a joye 510 kit, expanded with 3 more batts one atty and juice. I spent about $160. My DH and I are very happy with the quality.

1. I wanted to save money and get rid of my addiction. The reason... My addiction to analogs was cutting into the money I would use for bills. If It came between cigs or a bill... I could put off the bill (till next payday) and get cigs.

2. I am just a thrifty person. I use the FREE or $35 phone with metro for $50 a month... DO just internet (no TV because I can watch online) for $80 (and yes that is a lot for internet... but no how we use it).

Would I spend $200 on a quality pv??? YES! I was willing to do so actually. I thought they were all around that price for a good one. Glad that they were not. I did spend $160 for everything, 5 batts (2 reg, 3 xl) 3 attys, 1 charger and 9 juices; (5) 3ml, (3) 4ml, (1) 30ml.

I figure if you like vaping... and you are saving the $$$ anyway (even if you are on a budget) you can put the same amount of $$ aside that you would normally spend in a day if you did smoke, and get a Provari, if that is what you want. If you really want one you will find a way. Just like all the broke people I see with a Iphone. I bet they ate top romen for a month.

That is so true. I almost spit my coffee all over the screen when I read that.


Dave

 

[landscaper]

Go ahead and try to make a Provari... see what it costs.
It's not like these are cheap cookie cutter thin dinky pv's.
Unless they thought they'd sell like hotcakes, they aren't going to work up a Ford factory line.
They cost more to produce = more to buy.
I think they're made in America too.
The Lava Tube is more what some of you are looking for. You get what you pay for. I'll bet they have plans and equipment to mass produce a boat load.

Ounce for ounce you get more bang for your buck with an eGo (Lava Tube), ...but it's not a Provari.

They sell Provari to people all over the world, who knows how many they have sold so far. But I bet its in the 10's of thousands. Now I'm sure they hooked up with a manufacture who can produce those tubes and caps for very little money. I'm sure they don't have a building where they produce those themselves. Its easier and cheaper to find someone to do the manufacturing for them. Same with the electronics, I'm sure those electronics come pre assembled from China. I'll bet the only thing they do is the final assembly and testing before shipping it out to the consumer.

I'll bet in the end that the Provari cost less than $50 to manufacture and they make $150 per unit sold. Just a guess but I'll bet I'm really close. But hey good for them.. that is the American way and capitalism... and what makes this country great. Don't forget its a SS tube with fancy end caps and some cheap electronics inside.

Dave

 

[Martini]

While not exactly what I'd call cheap, keeping everything in perspective I would not necessarily say a Provari is expensive; as mariahpoo illustrated with the Ramen example it can also be a case of resource allocation for the sake of a quality product. I own several different mods as well and have a few fat batteries and while I have been pleased with every device, I can say that for myself I did find the Provari well worth the price and then some comparatively, especially factoring in its feature set. A satisfactory vape however can be achieved for many at a far lesser price point for sure, sans bells and whistles and flash - even with a Provari and a REO I still use my KGO and love it!

I do find it interesting though the mention of treatment of said devices such as smartphones and PV's. While most of us will have a mishap or two (I think my heart suffered more than my Provari on its 2 drops), it is something that honestly with things like that I do all to avoid. Perhaps my age is beginning to show, but growing up as a child in the 70's and 80's I was raised to treat precious such things, as I was fully aware of how difficult and expensive they were for my parents or myself to purchase. Never would I ever leave an item somewhere, as replacing it would be costly and more than likely not something achievable. It seems that the current mindset lends to a culture of disposables (and subsequent selling of another!), and lack of appreciation and value. Shocks me even more considering the hard economic times which have affected most of us. While replacing a cell phone would be a necessity, and one day I might like to have a Provari backup only as I know electronics can go wonky and I would like to have one to vape with while it was away being repaired if possible, I do everything in my power to avoid such mishaps, whether an item costs $20 or $2000. I view it as a personal responsibility one takes on. Perhaps I'm just a bit old fashioned that way.

 

[Tersur]

Bottom line. Its expensive becouse its a good enough product people are willing to pay for it.

 

[440BB]

I'm a two-fisted vaper, and I add dripping to my main two vapes when I'm home. If I want to reach for my choice as I do now without any effort I'd have to have three. That seems pretty expensive to me.

In addition, I just lost one of my Roughstacks. Although I felt devastated briefly, I had my second one with me and came home to my ugly dual 18650 drippin' box. This reminded me that I don't want a mod that I would have to worry about too much. I found my sweet spot with three mods that cost a total of $85, all used.

It's the same reason I have a classic car that's not pristine. I don't want to park diagonally at the far end of the lot because of worrying about door dings. I just want to enjoy my toys without worrying about them too much. Losing a Provari is a pain I can avoid.

That said, if having a Provari gets you to your sweet spot of happy vaping, then that's what you should do. With the arrival of the Lavatube and future competitors it will likely become a better deal in short order, maybe even inexpensive!

 

[SnakeFarm]

I think ProVaris are kind of like the Harly Davidson of PVs. Sure they are expensive, but if you know motorcycles, and you try a HD Road King, you are going to want one.

ProVari FTW!

 

[warlike36]

Times are tough for the majority of Americans....and the rest of the world. I cant afford a Provari...most cant. That doesn't make it expensive, just unaffordable for most. I would say production costs are about the same as a "Smoke anywhere" unit, but to reiterate others here...this is America, more power to em.

I personally have never bought a "brand new" unit. "Used" is a lot closer to my budget.

Merry Christmas everyone !!

 

[jamesthompson]

You do what you have to do to get the vape you are looking for. Buying used well made mods is a great way to go to save some money. All my retired mods sit on a shelf as memories and one day my collection will be big enough to explain the history of electronic cigarettes .

 

[AlmightyGod]

I can buy juice, atomizers, and a Provari every month....for less than I spent on analog cigarettes.

Add in my reduced premiums on health and life insurance and now we're talking some serious cash...

 

[jamesthompson]

I can buy juice, atomizers, and a Provari every month....for less than I spent on analog cigarettes.

Add in my reduced premiums on health and life insurance and now we're talking some serious cash...

This is very valid and how I justifying buying new mods and so forth. I used to smoke a carton to a carton and half a week. I would always buy 5 cartons a month. When I was smoking a few years back that was $40 a carton on tribal land so $200 a month. The cost of smoking has gone up a lot lately so it would cost me even more today. So if I want to treat myself to a nice mod I will because I used to spend that money on cigarettes anyways... You know vaping is more then just replacing smoking. It is a lifestyle and a hobby to many of us. We do what we can to make it as enjoyable and fun as possible.

 

[ricks]

When I smoked, I used to get them from places out of the country. I used to buy 9 cartons for 162.00 3 years ago. In 2010 they went up to 245.00 for the same 9 cartons. About every month.

This is very valid and how I justifying buying new mods and so forth. I used to smoke a carton to a carton and half a week. I would always buy 5 cartons a month. When I was smoking a few years back that was $40 a carton on tribal land so $200 a month. The cost of smoking has gone up a lot lately so it would cost me even more today. So if I want to treat myself to a nice mod I will because I used to spend that money on cigarettes anyways... You know vaping is more then just replacing smoking. It is a lifestyle and a hobby to many of us. We do what we can to make it as enjoyable and fun as possible.

 

[landscaper]

I agree.... my cig habit was less than some of yours per month but it was still around $160 per month. But I started this for health reasons and to save money, plus I guess maybe it was the time and situation in which I grew up. I just cant justify some purchases. If I hit the lotto tomorrow I sure wouldn't run out and buy a fancy car and a huge house I don't need.

I guess some people are wired different. I buy what I need and I know when to spend the money for a higher quality device or tool. Ive been burned by the junk when I was younger. The old saying is nothing good is cheap and nothing cheap is good and I agree with that. I just don't think it applies in this situation.

Another wise man once said... A penny saved is a penny earned.

Dave

 

[kabonk]

I have a provari and a lava tube so this is the thing, with the lava tube and a fresh battery set at 6v is 6.2v and 6.1v underload but when the battery drains somewhere around 3.6v things change set at 6v reads 6.2v and 5.6v underload so its not keeping its voltage as the battery drains.
with the provari you set it a 6v and its 6v even underload and stays there until the battery dies. Is it a big deal well no the lava tube only cost $62.99 but there is a difference and I don't see anywhere in that link where they show the inards of a provari

If you go to this thread http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modding-forum/246093-electronique-lavatube-picture.html


you will see the internal electronics for both the lava tube and the provari. Doesn't seem like much of a difference to me, which is what I figured all a long. Provari is Stainless Steel and the Lava tube is aluminum. $50 for a Lava Tube or $200 for a Provari.

Seems like a no brainer to me.

Dave

 

[landscaper]

I have a provari and a lava tube so this is the thing, with the lava tube and a fresh battery set at 6v is 6.2v and 6.1v underload but when the battery drains somewhere around 3.6v things change set at 6v reads 6.2v and 5.6v underload so its not keeping its voltage as the battery drains.
with the provari you set it a 6v and its 6v even underload and stays there until the battery dies. Is it a big deal well no the lava tube only cost $62.99 but there is a difference and I don't see anywhere in that link where they show the inards of a provari

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For me, this board is very clean and sufficient for a lot of people. I don't know this boost chip before but very interesting for a small boost board with no screen.
Thanks a lot bidibulle...
Some pictures of a provari for comparaison... End Quote.

One more thing... at 3.6 the battery is nearly dead....at 3.3 the battery is dead. So for me its no big deal.

Dave

 

[landscaper]

Taken from Volcano Website.


Selectable voltage from 3v to 6v in 0.1v increments
Power on/Off Button- hold the button down for 5 seconds to turn the device on, hold the button again for 5 seconds to turn the device off.
+ Button: On press, increases voltage by .1 increments between 3volt and 6 volt. When you reach 6 volts, the user starts back at 3 volts
- Button: On press, decreases voltage by .1 increments between 3volt and 6 volt. When you reach 3 volts, the user starts back at 6 volts
+ and – Button: Press and hold both buttons for five second to disable the + and – button, locking the device on the voltage it is currently set at.
Regulated output which keeps the voltage the same with each puff - regardless of the remaining battery power. As the battery drains, the device will keep the voltage consistent.
If the activation button is held down for 10 seconds or longer, the Lavatube will shut itself off until the button is released. To prevent overheating the atomizer and the device.
Short Circuit/Atomizer Protection. Unlike the Provari and its E2 error, the Lavatube recognize an atomizer with too low of a resistance for the current voltage set and will drop the voltage to 3.7v to protect both the battery and atomizer. If the atomizer is too low or shorted out it will shut off power to the device to protect the Lavatube from being damaged.
Reverse Battery Protection – Protects the device in case you put the battery in the device backwards
Battery Monitoring/Over-Discharge Protection – The device will monitor the battery voltage and automatically turn off when the battery is discharged, preventing damage to the battery by overly depleting it.
Battery Voltage Meter. The Lavetube has a voltage meter built in, simply press the red power button 7 times and it will display the voltage of the battery for a few seconds. This way you can monitor the power left on the battery before it needs to be recharged. These batteries are fulling charged at 4.2v and need to be recharged when they reach the 3.3v level. The LCD screen will flash when the battery needs to be recharged, and will stop powering the device.
Amperage Limiting to 2.5 amps – The device should monitor and shut itself off if it detects any excessive over-current conditions.
Vent hole on the bottom of the device for added safety

Dave

 

[Tersur]

In the end ive seen enough posts now from members complaining about the buttons or the 510 Connector on the Lava tube beeing bad. It is cheaper. But warrantied. You may have to send the one you get in but its covered. The provari has had some quality issues ive dug up in the past as well. However with the L tube your looking at a FIRST RUN manufacturing from a chineese company. They are going to go through several revisions before the Quality is up to par. Provari is a proven design they have worked the bugs out of.