Wizard Labs Nic Base Reviews

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Striker911

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Oh I don't mind Striker I just wanted to make it clear so people would stop PM-ing me....lol If there is no other thread thats ok. Hopefully eventually they will start their own thread here.
Well if u ask people not to PM you it will only last till like 5 minutes ago and not many more people will see it. Ive entered a lot of contest's and winner announced rite above where someone put a new entry in. It may not even help but I don't mind trying. So here is the link for everyone who sees it and since this one is the biggest ive linked it for informal purposes. Hope it helps :toast: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/284576-wizard-labs-thread.html#post5733374
 

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I guess it really is your place to see about getting it locked. Lots of mods are in charge of this area, so ill leave that part up to you.

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Yes but for long term storage in the freezer i like glass. I mix my plainr juice up in 12 and 24 my dad likes 12 so i use old vodka bottles to store the plain juice. Does anyone know if temperature fluctuation from taking in and out of freezer affects nic quality

Oxygen and Light are the two evils to avoid when using and storing nicotine.
 

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Oxygen and Light are the two evils to avoid when using and storing nicotine.

Wizardlabs.us product description, there's heat too...

"Organic Nicotine oxidizes rapidly with exposure to heat, light, and air. As Nicotine oxidizes the color of the solution will turn yellow to amber brown in color. Higher strength Nicotine solutions will oxidize more rapidly than lower strength Nicotine solutions. This does not diminish the strength, potency, or safe handling requirements of the solution. We pack all of our Nicotine solutions with a blanket of Argon gas to help prevent oxidation during shipment."

Also perhaps see MadVape's Nicotine Concentration Over Time test. Only goes to 6 weeks, but still interesting info. Their refrigerator temp isn't listed, and it's not so much a "hot-cold-hot" thing. But still.
 
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I would think the average long term storage temperature would be most important. Short excursions to room temperature shouldn't matter. If it was a big issue how could a vendor ship it to you. Summer temperatures or long international shipping would be far worse. The time exposed to UV light and Oxygen are our enemies. Well that and who knows what chemical reactions are going on with strange flavor chemicals over time. The yellowing of nic juice is fairly well understood. What is going on inside bottles with various flavor chemicals is not. I would be more concerned about ingredients reacting with each other than with the nicotine oxidizing. Don't be surprised to find older flavored juices tasting very different than fresh juice. I mix up about 6 weeks of flavored juice for my wife and I and keep that in the fridge, dispensing about 30ml at a time to keep out on the counter. So far no noticeable changes over the 6 week period.

One thing I see with the Vodka bottles is head space increases as you use up the juice. There are a limited number of O2 molecules in an almost full sealed bottle. But they are refreshed each time you open the bottle. Don't try to count them. They are really small.
One thing to think about is most unflavored nic juice vendors seal the bottle with a blanket of an inert non-reactive gas to displace the air. When you receive this sealed bottle, it is really hard not to open the bottle and look inside :)

That and the light stays on in the fridge when you close the door. You knew that, right? :)
 
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i recently placed an order for nic among lots of flavors after reading all the great reviews and even better prices. everything was great... except for the nic itself... as far as i have read i have not found anything mentioning of what i received. i got a 120ml bottle of 48mg. to start off it had a very strong smell... kind of like rubber and somewhat alcohol-like. this smell definitely transfered over to taste as well. i have no idea where it comes from. it could have been placed in a bad bottle or something. but i cant taste anything else other than that. i let a few friends try as well to make sure it wasn't just me. i tried making a few bottles while increasing flavoring and still very present.
has anyone else had something like this from WL?
 

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i also sent an email to him at the same time. im not trying to bash on WL in anyway. i just wanted to know if anyone else had a similar experience and if they were able to find out what it was from, and more importantly if it is still safe to use as i did make some for a few friends already also. at first i thought it was from the new flavorings i received because the only thing i made for myself at first was a completely new sample i received from linda at TPA. but i made a new bottle using a previous flavoring and it was completely different. WL has been great with communication when i asked a few pre-order questions so i hope it is the same this time as well.
 
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