"You didn't really quit"

[revolver]

Some way or other, it is the same story with most of us...

Non-smokers/ 'Traditional' Smokers/ Etc. Or to simplify "The Others", may sound very 'discouraging'... That's true... They may not do it on purpose; they simply do not realize; and while they SHOULD, we could also get to be a bit less "mad" at them...
We should also understand that it is difficult for them to 'process' this whole 'new thing'...
Then again, being patient and trying to explain them may work better than 'barking' at them... This sympathetic attitude will be more constructive and translate into better results...
For, to be honest; even though we are not 'technically' smoking; we may still be ("electronically") smoking in a way; this is what they see. That plus the fact we have this new hobby of puffing wierd big things... Come on... It must be difficult to process for 'them'... Lets be more PATIENT...

=)

 

[popeye79]

Popeye,

Thanks for your response.

I like your comment regarding oral fixation/psychologically addicted. Absolutely true for me!

Quit at this time? Probably not today. Love my e-cig LOL !

Never know what tomorrow brings.....

taxicat

Me too. As long as the FDA lets me, I'll never "quit" my PV. I'm hopelessly addicted to the action of "smoking", and I love the flavors so much.

 

[alamor]

That's what I keep hearing from people when I share my good news. I quit smoking! I haven't had a tobacco cigarette (they don't know the usage of the word analog we use) in 8 weeks. But to them, it's no accomplishment. I didn't suffer enough, so it's not a big deal. I didn't chew nasty gum wear a patch, take pills to make me crazy or sweat out cold turkey, so it's not something you can even say congratulations about without it sounding half-hearted. Why can't you see that what I did was better? Why do you belittle my accomplishment? Why can't you be genuinely happy for me?

And even after all that, I feel so alive, so free. I'm not trapped anymore by cigarettes. No more planning my day around my smoke breaks. No more avoiding things at places that don't allow smoking. No more cologne baths. No more mint-chewing. I'm free. I'm not a slave anymore. So go ahead in your ignorance and think i'm no better off. I know what i've done and I feel damn proud of myself. If you can't share my joy, it's your loss.

I have actually had the exact opposite reaction. Everyone around me, my co workers, friends, and family have told me that at least it is keeping me off of the cancer causing smoke. They have all said " who cares if you puff on that fake cigarette, at least your not puffing on a real cigarette" And that is very encouraging. I wish you could have the same support that I have gotten because it really helps me want to NOT SMOKE! Since I have picked up my ecig I have not even slipped once and smoked a real cigarette in almost 2 months. Good luck to you and don't listen to the dumb people listen to your self.

 

[earthpig]

I really don't care either way.
I'm not a pubescent child, hoping all the girls like me. It isn't their business except to realize I'm no longer hurting them. As far as harm to myself? Not their issue to bug me with, and I will call em on it.
This is harm reduction, mind you...not harm elimination. Granted the reduction is 100s to 1000's of times less, but there is essentially still harm (and the flavorings are the biggest culprits ).

I do take efforts to inform folks and I do so to further our cause and to try and fend off the FDA and authorities with an "informed" public. (which is our biggest strength in the fight).

So don't take it so hard. You didn't when you smoked. Why are so many of you so set on getting the approval of their peers , when you were (and in some cases still are) smokers before. And your peers were/are smokers as well?

Da Pig.

 

[mylose64]

smokers in general are discouraging. Even when I smoked I would always bash e-cigs (but that's prob due to my mall incident lol). I would always laugh when people said they quit, because I knew they'd come back (which they always did)

Cigarette smokers are just miserable people. They are not open to new things and have a strong fixation with smoking. And honestly they should be miserable, they don't enjoy smoking and can't stop.

I don't know a single person that smokes that DOESN'T want to quit.

I've gotten a lot of "E-cigs are worse" or "you didn't quit" responses. My friends always laugh when I'm buying new e-cigs and filling up a carto with a syringe.

I just don't care about the responses. Yeah, In your eyes it's a little strange, but i'm just having fun and am starting to worry about my health. I don't want to smoke, I want to vape.

I don't even defend myself anymore, I just shake my head.

 

[Keenan]

Personally I never really "wanted" to quit smoking. Its only because of the negative aspects of it (ie. cancer, expense, persecution, smell etc.) that motivated me to try and give it up. I always enjoyed the experience so much more than the nicotine. I quit numerous times, sometimes for 12 months or more, then started back sometime usually when going out drinking.

There is still a decent expense involved with vaping, albeit much less than regular analogs. I have spent about $400 lately just going nuts on different PVs and juices. The 2 MAIN reasons I have made the switch full time though are: health reasons, and so I wouldn't smell like cigarettes all the time. I have always hated going to the bars, smoking like a pack and a half, then coming home having everything stink like an ashtray. Your clothes, hair, fingers are just covered in it. Plus so many non-smokers, especially the opposite sex, hate it as well. Thats maybe the best reason of all right there to switch

 

[ditch.the.pack]

Generally, everyone has been supportive. I had one person say "no, I just saw you smoking!" and didn't seem convinced by the e-cig idea. Until I explained that it's ONLY nicotine - not all the other nasty stuff - and that nicotine is equivalent to caffeine in coffee. When I made that comparison, he instantly understood and was cool with it. I think people need to be talked to on a level they understand. 99% of folks understand coffee & tea. So, draw a line between nicotine and caffeine and they understand.

 

[ditch.the.pack]

Oh, and I never intended to quit either. But when a friend bought one, it reminded me about them, and knowing that I could "smoke" in the house? Sold. lol Of course all the other benefits are a bonus, too. And "smoking" around my kiddo without feeling guilty.

 

[cosprings]

I didn't start smoking for "them" and I didn't stop for "them." "They" don't have to live with the costs and benefits of smoking or quitting, I do. Smoking or not has always been and always will be a personal choice.

If "they" support my choices (good or bad) then that's wonderful. If "they" don't agree with my choices, then that's fine too.

First off, I don't announce to the world that I have stopped smoking. One coworker hassles me a little (the best intentions) about smoking and I simply tell her that I don't have a single cigarette on me and haven't smoked one today.

If anyone tells me that I haven't quit (even though I never claimed to have quit) or that vaping is as bad as smoking, or that snus is worse than cigs or that I am weak or whatever, my response is always the same.

"Ok"

There really isn't anything to argue about here. "They" have their opinions and need to vocalize them and that's fine. I don't really care. It's Ok.

 

[mylose64]

Yeah I never "wanted" to quit smoking either. I'd say that when people brought up the topic of quitting. But there were many days when I was up in the morning coughing over a toilet, or using money that I didn't have to buy a pack and thought "I should quit".

I've also had many times where I tried to quit and it didn't work.

You can say you never "wanted" to quit, but deep down inside you wanted to. I know because I felt the same way.

 

[DC2]

You can say you never "wanted" to quit, but deep down inside you wanted to.

It may be splitting hairs, but I think plenty of us never wanted to quit.

I think that we all wanted smoking to not be killing us.
And I think that we all wanted smoking to not be so expensive.

But I really don't think that equates to wanting to quit.
I know I never wanted to quit.

 

[Credo]

It may be splitting hairs, but I think plenty of us never wanted to quit.

I think that we all wanted smoking to not be killing us.
And I think that we all wanted smoking to not be so expensive.

But I really don't think that equates to wanting to quit.
I know I never wanted to quit.

Amen...
If it weren't for the health risks, and stink/ash/fire issues....which contribute to 'pressure from everyone else to quit'....

Well...there would still be billboards and TV ads for cigs and everyone would still be using tobacco (like in the 50s and 60s where 8 out of 10 folks at least 'occasionally' used tobacco).

A good pipe, paper/book, and glass of brandy/wine once a day was always a great way to unwind. Kept many a busy OCD people from loosing their minds, snapping, and going postal

These days people just pop some kind of pill out of a similar need....but miss out on the 'stopping down and nice distraction' of the old 'smoking' experience. The pills aren't free either...and they often have some adverse health risks leading to incurable problems too.

 

[murf43143]

Well did you quit for them or did you do it for yourself? If you quit for other people, than yea I could see why you would even care...

But why you would ever quit anything you love for someone else is beyond me. The only reason to quit would be to make yourself proud and live a longer life.

Haters gon hate.

 

[ShannonA]

It may be splitting hairs, but I think plenty of us never wanted to quit.

I think that we all wanted smoking to not be killing us.
And I think that we all wanted smoking to not be so expensive.

But I really don't think that equates to wanting to quit.
I know I never wanted to quit.

I think what he may be saying (I'm just guessing here because this is how I felt) is many smokers no longer enjoy smoking but still keep doing it. I think I needed the acton but I just did it, like I tied my shoes or checked my mail. I noticed when I switched to vaping that changed. It ws like enjoyin my favorite drink or curling up with a good book... something I savored again. I don't really plan to quit vaping... but who knows how I'll feel in 5 or 10 years.

 

[rambo]

Well, you quit the smoke, but you didn't quit the addiction. So basicly you didn't really quit. Quitting meens quitting the addiction be it nicotine, alcohol or drugs. You quit when you stop using any nicotine product. Anyone can quit nicotine cold turkey style, you just need will power and some people have more of it than others.

 

[mylose64]

It may be splitting hairs, but I think plenty of us never wanted to quit.

I think that we all wanted smoking to not be killing us.
And I think that we all wanted smoking to not be so expensive.

Do you smoke cigarettes or vape?

Because if you vape, i'm pretty sure you wanted to quit smoking.....

And why wouldn't you want to quit? you just listed two reasons, cost and health concerns.
You didn't "want" to quit because your addicted to nicotine.

Smokers are in denial, They say "I smoke and I don't want to quit" but that's pure BS. There is no way anyone wants to smoke.

Would you recommend cigarettes to someone who is a non smoker? Probably not. Why? because their addicting and expensive and cause a million health problems.

I couldn't picture you saying "hey light one up there great! your missing out! I never want to quit"

C'mon.... Your vaping, obviously you wanted to quit. Don't think if you say "I never wanted to quit" makes you seem more stronger, because in my eyes your weak and can't acknowledge the fact that cigarettes are bad. People who smoke are addicted and are suffering in each drag.


and what REALLY irks me is when you say "plenty of us never wanted to quit"

Then why the heck is this forum even here? why is everyone vaping? Your going to generalize the entire forum and say that no one wanted to quit.

A lot of people on this forum did indeed quit, and WANTED to quit. Hence the electronic cigarette users out there.

People use electronic cigarettes to quit cigarettes. Why? because there terrible and make you feel like crap and YOU HAVE A DESIRE TO STOP SMOKING!

 

[DC2]

Nope, I only smoked around 5 cigarettes per day, and I most definitely did not want to quit.

I only quit because I was tired of my wife bothering me about it all the time.
Well, that, and because I was lucky enough to find electronic cigarettes.

You make a lot of blanket statements though, as if you feel everyone else were just like you.

 

[ShannonA]

Do you smoke cigarettes or vape?

Because if you vape, i'm pretty sure you wanted to quit smoking.....

And why wouldn't you want to quit? you just listed two reasons, cost and health concerns.
You didn't "want" to quit because your addicted to nicotine.

Smokers are in denial, They say "I smoke and I don't want to quit" but that's pure BS. There is no way anyone wants to smoke.

Would you recommend cigarettes to someone who is a non smoker? Probably not. Why? because their addicting and expensive and cause a million health problems.

I couldn't picture you saying "hey light one up there great! your missing out! I never want to quit"

C'mon.... Your vaping, obviously you wanted to quit. Don't think if you say "I never wanted to quit" makes you seem more stronger, because in my eyes your weak and can't acknowledge the fact that cigarettes are bad. People who smoke are addicted and are suffering in each drag.


and what REALLY irks me is when you say "plenty of us never wanted to quit"

Then why the heck is this forum even here? why is everyone vaping? Your going to generalize the entire forum and say that no one wanted to quit.

A lot of people on this forum did indeed quit, and WANTED to quit. Hence the electronic cigarette users out there.

People use electronic cigarettes to quit cigarettes. Why? because there terrible and make you feel like crap and YOU HAVE A DESIRE TO STOP SMOKING!

See now you're generalizing . My addiction is more the action than the nicotine. I have no doubt I'll get down to zero and keep on vaping for quite awhile if not permanantly

 

[mylose64]

Just to make it clear, I don't have a point. And the my last post made no sense at all. I was unaware that all smokers don't want to quit no matter how many health problems occur, or how many other people they're affecting.

 

[earthpig]

I personally haven't quit. I've cut down by 3/4's and now am working it down.
I also have no health issues of any consequence from smoking and I'm 56 yrs old. I'm probably lucky and realize the possible harms.

That said, I have little desire to quit, except common sense says it's a smart thing to do. I enjoy smoking. I enjoyed alcohol but basically quit it after going to far with it (a drink on occasion only these days).

Nobody is going to pressure me to do what I like to do. I am and was an adamant smoker and held to my right to do so. I lost. They outlawed smoking in public in my state (dunno about yours). Now, It's a desire to not pay the taxing authorities after they have taken my rights away. So I vape to cut the tax load and give em the middle finger for kicking me out in the cold and taxing me into oblivion.

I enjoy Smoking and I enjoy Vaping. Vaping will win over. I like something in my hands (I'm an architect by trade and either have a mechanical pencil/cig or e-cig in my hand at most times). I also love smoke and am not bothered by the smell, and actually like it (vapor as well).

So if asked if I want to quit?
No .

Smoked Pork