Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
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Oh, no, (((((Kitty)))))! Don't be sad. Please don't.
If you have to have a cig, have a cig. But Backwoods Brew Menthol (a subtly sweetish combination of their tobacco and menthol) tastes just like a Salem cigarette, only better!
I'm happy with the flavors I have. I haven't had, or wanted, a cigarette in almost 4 years. But honestly I wonder if I'm not the only one having trouble dealing with this. A big button for me emotionally is trying to do everything right, everything you can think of, and still getting punished.
It's not over, Kitty. We have to fight this nonsense.
Step away from your computer. Play with your goat. Have a stiff drink. Invite a friend over for dinner. Don't let them get to you!!!
It's not over. Not even close.
Out of curiosity, I posted on several of my private facebook groups, non vape related, asking people what they knew of the deeming regs, what they think, etc...
Most people don't have a clue. A few say they think ecigs are good, but should only be used to wean off of regular cigs ("otherwise they don't do any good"). They have absolutely no idea that the regulations are a de facto ban, and don't really care for that matter. They also think you can vape 'the other thing' in ecigs and that that's what most people are doing. Sigh.
Also, big takeaway for most seems to be, 'regulated just like cigarettes'. Which they all think is an awesome idea. Not understanding that all cigarettes currently on the market were grandfathered in and ecigs won't be.
About the only media they have seen that even discusses that this regulation favors BT is the silly Samantha Bee video.
Most people don't have a clue. A few say they think ecigs are good, but should only be used to wean off of regular cigs ("otherwise they don't do any good"). They have absolutely no idea that the regulations are a de facto ban, and don't really care for that matter. They also think you can vape 'the other thing' in ecigs and that that's what most people are doing. Sigh.
Also, big takeaway for most seems to be, 'regulated just like cigarettes'. Which they all think is an awesome idea. Not understanding that all cigarettes currently on the market were grandfathered in and ecigs won't be.
About the only media they have seen that even discusses that this regulation favors BT is the silly Samantha Bee video.
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Does a patent alone count? I thought I read somewhere that things had to be actively marketed as of the cutout date to be grandfathered.
You're right. It does say that the product had to be on the market (excluding anything available for only test marketing) on February 15, 2007.
I hate them.
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Perfect analogy.
Where does the FedGov get the notion that they can arbitrarily make it illegal for people to consume whatever they want? I don't see anything in the Constitution that grants them the authority to do that. 100 years ago, they still understood this and actually passed an amendment to give themselves such authority over the "manufacture, sale, or transportation" of alcohol, but even that didn't make consumption illegal.
Bolded by me...
Yeah, how dare them darn vapers. Finding solutions on their own, liberating themselves from the shackles of tobacco without someone else patting themselves on the back for having 'freed' yet another soul ( while more often than not taking money for it too) ...
Guess some see the writing on the wall and are making noises to make sure that they get their share of the new pie (vaping) too..
It's not just NRT from BP, all these seminars, and training courses and counseling for smokers ...
it's a whole industry around that cycle of getting people hooked, getting people weaned, getting people hooked, getting...
...getting hopefully off my back for a change :
Done gone into smoking without ya
Done getting done with smoking without ya
Doing vaping without ya
Can find my own a... without a flashlight... and without ya.
Oh man. Is this going to be like attending driver's ed again? And will I have to show I can vape correctly with both a regulated AND a mech mod?
Will there be a Written Exam? Old Arthritic hands hurt when writing
Would that disqualify me from the $99.99 cig-a-like program?
I don't think that's how they view it. I think it's more like:
How dare those darn vapers, continuing to enjoy inhaling their nicotine, which is obviously a tobacco product, without any negative consequences to their health! If we let that continue and it becomes apparent that there really aren't any serious health issues associated with this vile habit, we'll be back to having half the population "smoking" within another generation of two.
Perhaps their marketing research would indicate that a 510 connection would be more attractive to vapers who have components they need to utilize.
Ok, the reason I ask is, non proprietary connection could be a big problem for them. I'm still a little unclear on how it works, but there's the bit about making sure that your component is safe to use with any other component it could be used with.
I would not be the least bit surprised if they come out with a "new and improved version" that is not 510/ego before Aug 8.
The Misplaced ill will of a Reprogrammed mentality Brought on through Decades of indoctrination into a Cult like belief that a Look is an Act.
Looks like some Future thinking Groups are already preparing to Jump ship for Greener Financial Pastures.
American Lung Association Joining With CVS in Promoting Lung Cancer awareness with no mention of Smoking Risk................Hmmm........
The Rest of the Story: Tobacco News Analysis and Commentary: American Lung Association and CVS Health Campaign Downplays the Importance of Smoking in Preventing Lung Cancer
Ocelot don't let BT and FDA win, we have all come too far !!! Hang with us and stock up, we need you
That's pretty funny coming after CVS stopped selling cigarettes as they felt it wasn't appropriate for a pharmacy to sell a dangerous product like tobacco. Still, it is true that anyone can get lung caner. Although the incidence of lung cancer among nonsmoker is about ~15% of all cases versus ~85% among smokers. The types of cancer are typically different as well. Letting nonsmokers know they should still get regular checkups isn't a bad thing, although screening all nonsmokers as thoroughly as smokers would get awfully expensive.
Nah, you only need a "Class M" licence for a mech.
For a regular vaping license, you just have to register.
Then there's the "Professional Vaper" license - for that, you have to take a class, and pass a coil-building test.
For a regular vaping license, you just have to register.
Then there's the "Professional Vaper" license - for that, you have to take a class, and pass a coil-building test.
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