Am I the only person who has a problem with ppl making juice in their homes?

[rondasherrill]

Somehow I think if Marlboro as an example put a e liquid called Marlboro Classic tobacco juice on the shelf it would sell very well and probably out perform other liquids on sales volume due to name recognition. I'm sure Phillip Morris will be happy to fill our tanks.

Oh good god no. I don't actually know how long you have been vaping, but the last time I tried a tobacco flavored e-liquid, it was gross, and the last time I tried to smoke a cigarette, I almost threw up with how bad it tasted. They may catch new vapers or people with an odd attachment with something like that, but most long term vapers will want no part of it.

All that having been said, I DIY, and it's unflavored to boot, so I really have no fears about what is in my e-liquid.

 

[sub4me]

How's that Mark Ten device going for them?? Not good at all. Blus sales are slumping. Njoy can't give there stuff away lol, if the tobacco companies want to make profits on vaping and sustain those profits they will have to bottle e liquid because as we all know CIG a likes are bull and those tiny kits are a joke.

 

[Mr.Mann]

How's that Mark Ten device going for them?? Not good at all. Blus sales are slumping. Njoy can't give there stuff away lol, if the tobacco companies want to make profits on vaping and sustain those profits they will have to bottle e liquid because as we all know CIG a likes are bull and those tiny kits are a joke.

Well, I do still buy EcoPure.

 

[stevegmu]

The NJOY e-liquid I have tried is pretty good. Their menthol has incredible throat hit for 15mg.

 

[stevegmu]

Oh good god no. I don't actually know how long you have been vaping, but the last time I tried a tobacco flavored e-liquid, it was gross, and the last time I tried to smoke a cigarette, I almost threw up with how bad it tasted. They may catch new vapers or people with an odd attachment with something like that, but most long term vapers will want no part of it.

All that having been said, I DIY, and it's unflavored to boot, so I really have no fears about what is in my e-liquid.

Everyone is different. I have been vaping since BLU came out; I always have a few tobacco e-liquids in my rotation; I smoke a few cigarettes a few times/year, but they taste like air, though. I still like the smell of a fresh cigarette.

Just because someone DIYs doesn't mean they really know what is in their supplies, unless they have them tested. Most DIY nic is from PRC...

 

[Unforeseen]

I have noticed there is some tension between several members in this thread. Please keep the discussion civil and respect each others opinions.

If you cannot treat each other with courtesy, then please move on. Since this may lead to action being taken on your account.

 

[rondasherrill]

The NJOY e-liquid I have tried is pretty good. Their menthol has incredible throat hit for 15mg.

Haha! I remember about 2 years or so ago, I ran out of e-liquid, and there were NO vape shops(even now theres only a tiny bad one), so to get me by until more liquid came, I bought a pack of NJoy(or whever it was back then) cartridges, pulled out the filler, and squeezed the liquid out into a bottle. That was non-menthol, and wow was it horrid. That was the moment I realized I could go for extended periods of time without vaping, without any negative physiological feedback.

Everyone is different. I have been vaping since BLU came out; I always have a few tobacco e-liquids in my rotation; I smoke a few cigarettes a few times/year, but they taste like air, though. I still like the smell of a fresh cigarette.

Just because someone DIYs doesn't mean they really know what is in their supplies, unless they have them tested. Most DIY nic is from PRC...

I did say most. There are always exceptions to every rule, but most vapers tend to steer away from tobacco flavors after a while.

It is true that most nic is from PRC or India, because there are no US sources for it at this time, to my knowledge. I order from Wizardlabs, which has had a positive reputation for a long time.

 

[Mr.Mann]

With all due respect, you seem to be bringing big tobacco into this... At the moment the problem is not big Tobacco but big e-juice vendors that have been lying to their customers. They are selling dangerous e-liquids while telling us how good and safe their premium e-liquids are. That they are made with love for the vapers and all this {MODERATED}

We can't continue to close our eyes saying its all big tobacco's fault. We can't continue to say, if you don't like it quit vaping. We can't continue to say, it less dangerous than smoking.

We can't continue to be Ostriches !

The tobacco companies are already in this. I think you missed the context. I never said this issue of shoddy liquid was tobacco companies' fault, nothing about what's less dangerous or anything like that. The diacetyl issue is a problem (I imagine that's what you are referring to), but even Dr.Farsalinos and his team would tell you that they are talking about avoidable risks, not necessarily "dangerous eliquids."

 

[sub4me]

Not their liquid their tiny disposable. My local store can't even sell one of them and is currently getting rid of Blus inventory also no one wants it because it barley works and the carts blow.

 

[stevegmu]

Not their liquid their tiny disposable. My local store can't even sell one of them and is currently getting rid of Blus inventory also no one wants it because it barley works and the carts blow.

I still have a drawer full of unopened BLU cartos from my BLU days. I enjoy one every now and then, but can power through one in about 30 minutes...

 

[Mr.Mann]

I still have a drawer full of unopened BLU cartos from my BLU days. I enjoy one every now and then, but can power through one in about 30 minutes...

Ha! I used to use the SafeCig. Man, I loved it at the time. But then again, I used to love Saved By The Bell, too.

 

[stevegmu]

Ha! I used to use the SafeCig. Man, I loved it at the time. But then again, I used to love Saved By The Bell, too.

Kelly was hot...

 

[Mr.Mann]

Haha! I remember about 2 years or so ago, I ran out of e-liquid, and there were NO vape shops(even now theres only a tiny bad one), so to get me by until more liquid came, I bought a pack of NJoy(or whever it was back then) cartridges, pulled out the filler, and squeezed the liquid out into a bottle. That was non-menthol, and wow was it horrid. That was the moment I realized I could go for extended periods of time without vaping, without any negative physiological feedback..

Too funny. But all you had to do was the reverse Taryn Spin. . Do a regular Taryn Spin but tape a "condom" to a the mouth side of a carto and reverse the orientation of the carto from the lanyard or rope. Worked like a charm. But the liquid would've still sucked!

 

[rondasherrill]

Too funny. But all you had to do was the reverse Taryn Spin. . Do a regular Taryn Spin but tape a "condom" to a the mouth side of a carto and reverse the orientation of the carto from the lanyard or rope. Worked like a charm. But the liquid would've still sucked!

Haha my experience with cartos lasted all of 3 WEEKS. I vaguely remember the Taryn Spin I think, but never employed it.

 

[Mr.Mann]

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[bluecat]

Safety doesn't come from a regulatory agency....it comes from educated consumers who understand what they are doing. Regulation would by no means help that.

To some extent it will help. For those that blindly follow the government, it will help. Those that rely on someone else to think for them or those that are too lazy to think for themselves, it will help. Maybe not in the way you or I would would like, but it will help. There will be a cost and some things we enjoy now won't be there.

Personally, I don't mind a Blu or Njoy. My tastebuds are such that I can't taste the liquids. I just went through a 2-3 month where I was able to enjoy flavors. After using unflavored for a year or so, it was nice. They are just stupidly expensive.

No matter how anti-regulatory I am. I can still see how some regulation will help some of the people in this industry.

 

[bluecat]

If you fully understood the issues at hand, you would realize how the deeming proposals that the FDA has published will destroy the safe elquids that we currently are able to enjoy. Keep in mind too....once the FDA has regulatory control, they will continue pushing more regulations. It will be a never-ending battle until we are stuck purchasing FDA approved products made my Reynolds and other cig makers at the corner gas station. And of course we know how safe the cigarettes they sell are.

If the mom and pop shops get licensed then they will be able to sell as well. The FDA has tried once and failed, 2009. Tobacco is trying now. It is a silly case they are presenting and it should be thrown out of court and they should be laughed at. The guy at BT that dreamed this up should be fired and sent packing. The FDA needs an overhaul. Heck our government needs an overhaul.

It will always be a never ending battle. How long has the government healthcare battle been until they finally won. I think it was 1969/70 that Ted Kennedy first called for universal healthcare. It won't stop.

 

[bluecat]

With the screw up with Suicide bonny and all the others not yet identified, seft-regulation did not work. Now SB is erasing all comments and question on the subject on their Facebook page. Is this the kind of regulation you propose ? Lie and hide the thruth to you customers ? Sell and make a profit at any cost ?

What do you propose ?

In a sense, mate, it is working. They are being called out on it. It may have taken awhile, but at least it is playing out. They aren't handling it very well. I have never heard of Suicide Bunny until now.

 

[Mr.Mann]

In a sense, mate, it is working. They are being called out on it. It may have taken awhile, but at least it is playing out. They aren't handling it very well. I have never heard of Suicide Bunny until now.

Yes, and the Dr.F study had at least two members from ECF (a scientist who happens to be a vaper and the other was Dr.F himself) on the team. That is from within, especially, too, when you consider the study was largely funded by vapers like you (us). This is the perfect example of us doing good by us.

 

[Tangaroav]

The tobacco companies are already in this. I think you missed the context. I never said this issue of shoddy liquid was tobacco companies' fault, nothing about what's less dangerous or anything like that. The diacetyl issue is a problem (I imagine that's what you are referring to), but even Dr.Farsalinos and his team would tell you that they are talking about avoidable risks, not necessarily "dangerous eliquids."

Agree, avaidable risks is the key word. Sorry if I misinterpreted your post.