Those fees maybe expensive to some but in reality that's the cost of doing business if you want that cert I suppose and considering the huge profit margin on hardware and liquids its a small price to pay. However the monthly fee could be dropped to a more reasonable rate. I mean a small shop shouldn't have to make their rent payment to the certifying company.
Am I the only person who has a problem with ppl making juice in their homes?
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Wrong, it should be all of our concern considering its easily available to anyone and could easily be sold by a clerk who thinks its just the latest new liquid but has no idea what it really contains. That's an awful big danger and if you can't see that danger does exist I would invite you to read up on it as its very real.
You failed to address how any of what I said was wrong. How is it my business what type of eliquid they choose to consume? That is up to them to make that decision. Keep digging though...
New Jersey has a criminal case for that exact type of liquid sold to teenagers. I believe Georgia also has a criminal case for a similar incident. Thinking it doest effect all of us is just wrong. I don't want kids getting ahold of that, I don't want my neighbor doing it either, or the guy driving next to me. See how fast that can effect you?? Suddenly makes you think different about the safety of these liquids. There's a pic of the bottle the liquid was sold in and it looks just like any other liquid. Look it up.
The hammer will come down when someone buys a bottle of e-liquid bathtub brew that turns out to be 100mg and ends up in the hospital. Those concerned about regulations should care. Given the amount of vape shops opening by owners who simply haven't clue or don't care, it is bound to happen- just like exploding mods...
No it doesn't make me think any differently. The judicial system is handling this perfectly...which is what I have proposed long ago in regards to your safety concerns. Keep worrying though.
I do like a nice apple pie picked up at a bake sale or the county fair ... however, I do live a crazy reckless lifestyle ... testing other fine vapers DIY mixes and whatnot
Ha! I just ate some homemade salsa from a guy at a fair yesterday -- andhe does sell it online with who-knows-what in it! Well, I think there's tomatoes in it. I wonder what his lab looks like.
And that person will more than likely get sued. How would regulations have prevented the case you just presented?
Question: Will regulations protect you from harm or danger? Yes or no.
Oh the horror. Teenagers could be getting bad salsa from some random guy at the fair who is putting god knows what in the mix. Risky business brother.
Of course it doesn't which is sad really cause the next guy will sell the same bad bottle to someone else as long as there is no requirements of approved ingredients and because of that the forced regulations your so against just might happen.
I can only assume you are talking about Relax/etc. Disguised as an e-liquid?
Not exactly Board discussion material and highly unlikely(not yet linked) any legitimate B&M would have this out on their shelves. At least not if they intend to stay in business for long.
As to Bad Publicity - I could not agree more
As to Regulations............... Regulations will not stop already illegal activities.
A lawsuit would be meaningless; most people are basically judgement proof...
Public opinion would turn against vaping...
A licence to buy nicotine over certain concentrations, which requires a safety course would be a start...
Yep. Right up until FDA decides to use AEMSA standards for e-liquids, and bans WTA. Why not, the leading standards organization says it's unsafe, right?
Civil damages won't cut it. Criminal punishment will prevent vendors from supplying these types of liquids and will detour most from considering it as an option. Of course you may have a criminal market for it but at least those substances would not be on a store shelf like they are now. This isnt' hard to understand.
Meaningless? I see big judgments won on a weekly basis. Once again how would regulation have prevented the case that you presented?
Nope, its legal and is being sold openly many places that's the problem. No regulations means anyone can put any substance in the bottle and call it e liquid as long as it does not contain an illegal substance.
Judgments are meaningless. Collecting them is everything... Try to collect $6 million from a local B&M..
Not quite sure what part about this you didn't understand----A licence to buy nicotine over certain concentrations, which requires a safety course would be a start...
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