Anyone else shy about e-smoking in public?

[SpamboMan]

Gee, I wonder why? This account was a fine example of what not to do when confronted by management. There were so many things in this post that make my blood boil I won't even address them.

I for one do not want to see e-cigs banned by businesses. A little discretion in the first place, and a little tact and maturity when questioned goes a long way.

Right on!!! I just got my E-cig a few days ago. While I don't have a lot of experience with it yet (but I'm in love with it and am glad I smoked my last analog after a pack a day for many years). You're absolutely right.

In a lot of ways, the flaunting of the "rules" by analog smoking only gives ammo to the militant non smokers.

This attitude could cause an unneeded backlash.

Just take it slow vapers! And BE NICE! And attitudes will eventually change when (if?!) E-smoking proves to be a safe and non threatining alternative and compromise to the anti-smoking people (who only hated to smell like us).

The soft approach will work best!

 

[rickstar009]

Gee, I wonder why? This account was a fine example of what not to do when confronted by management. There were so many things in this post that make my blood boil I won't even address them.

I for one do not want to see e-cigs banned by businesses. A little discretion in the first place, and a little tact and maturity when questioned goes a long way.

Right on!!! I just got my E-cig a few days ago. While I don't have a lot of experience with it yet (but I'm in love with it and am glad I smoked my last analog after a pack a day for many years). You're absolutely right.

In a lot of ways, the flaunting of the "rules" by analog smoking only gives ammo to the militant non smokers.

This attitude could cause an unneeded backlash.

Just take it slow vapers! And BE NICE! And attitudes will eventually change when (if?!) E-smoking proves to be a safe and non threatining alternative and compromise to the anti-smoking people (who only hated to smell like us).

The soft approach will work best!

Hmm suspiciously two new members to this forum with some rather hush and judgemental words when you have absolutely! no! clue on what you might even be talking out, and while you were not even there at the time to even have an opinion on what happend at the supermarket .....So i don't think i'l be taking your posts *both of you noobies* all that seriously...

..But welcome! to this forum anyway who ever you might be............

 

[DaveyRoots]

me not being shy has made puresmoker more than 1k lolz

I whipped out my DSE 901 on stage at the end of a Gig and namedropped like a mother haha

 

[rickstar009]

me not being shy has made puresmoker more than 1k lolz

I whipped out my DSE 901 on stage at the end of a Gig and namedropped like a mother haha

Lol Davey.....

 

[Programmer]

Hmm suspiciously two new members to this forum with some rather hush and judgemental words when you have absolutely! no! clue on what you might even be talking out, and while you were not even there at the time to even have an opinion on what happend at the supermarket .....So i don't think i'l be taking your posts *both of you noobies* all that seriously...

I must admit I was surprised myself to see a reply in agreement, not that I am complaining. No clue who SpamboMan is but I can assure you I wouldn't take the time to shill a post of my own.

As for me being called a noobie... my post count does not indicate my IQ, and my forum join date does not indicate the date I started using e-cigs, nor when I started reading the forum. I'm not the type of person to sit here and make 10 posts a day, and in fact I never had a reason to register at all... sometimes things just need to be said though.

In fact if TropicalBob had already jumped in with one of his usual responses I'd still be without an account at all. Someone needed to say something I thought; didn't have to be me.

As for saying I "have absolutely! no! clue" on what I might be talking about, I don't see your logic. All we can go on is how you yourself explained the story. Let's go through this item by item:

We'll just ignore the fact that it was a supermarket to begin with. Maybe Australia is different, and that's a personal choice anyway.

I told him that its an electronic cigarette

Ok this was a great chance for you to introduce him to e-cigs in a favorable manner. Too bad it didn't work out that way

and that i can smoke it in clubs, pub’s, buses, actually anywhere

You can? No, you can't. Just because something is not presently illegal does not mean you suddenly have a right to do it anywhere you please. What would have been correct would be to say is you can smoke it in pubs or anywhere given the owner does not object to it. This point alone seems to be lost on a (fortunately small) number of members here.

it did not matter to him and he told me not to smoke it anymore

Rats, well you can't win them all. At this point the e-cig should have been put away, and maybe a few kind words of parting. Maybe even given him a business card so he could look into it at his leisure.

I kept trying to explain to him that you can smoke it anywhere

Again, see my point above about your assumed "right". An agent of the company has already told you basicaly twice to put the thing away, why do you press the issue further? Once things have reached this point (in anything in life) it seldom improves the situation any by making whiny arguments this late in the game.

I always get a chuckle when I'm watching Cops TV shows and the officer says "You're under arrest, put your hands behind your back." Invariably the crook starts saying "No man, I didn't break no laws!" and resisting. Obviously it does nobody any good to try a case by the side of the road. Similar sitation here. He had already made up his mind (and by the sounds of it might have been getting angry), he's representing the property, so at this point you were doing nothing but worsening the sitation.

Did you really think you were going to change his mind by offering such arguments at this stage?

as its very safe to others and healthy

Maybe it's safe to others. I sure hope it is. But we don't know for sure. But to go so far as to say healthy? Wow, that's out there. I can't say one way or another on either of those assertions, but I can guarantee you that management or a security guard will not take the word of some random guy in the grocery store as proof.

my girlfriend saw that tempers where about to fray and pulled me away

Yep, ok. Your girlfriend had to pull you away before something worse happened, and you still can't see where I'm coming from. Gotcha.

Hey, you're right, I wasn't there. All I can do is read the account exactly as you presented it.

 

[Nuck]

Programmer, you chose your nick well. The black and white boolean logic, the step by step analysis (complete with multiple quotes), the pedantic tone with a wonderful hint of condescension...yep...a fellow coder.

Welcome to the forums

 

[dave1212]

I tend to hide as much as possible, simply because I'm sick to death of explaining to people what it is that I'm smoking. Thinking about printing out a pamphlet to keep in my wallet to hand to somebody when they ask

 

[Programmer]

Programmer, you chose your nick well. The black and white boolean logic, the step by step analysis (complete with multiple quotes), the pedantic tone with a wonderful hint of condescension...yep...a fellow coder.

Welcome to the forums

Hahaha thanks, I think! I never thought of it before, but you definitely pegged the traits right there. I can definitely see those qualities in "those other coders".

Well anyway sorry to anyone if I came off a bit harsh. I'm just extremely fearful that one day I'll be seeing signs saying "no e-smoking". As it is currently I'm free to take somewhat discrete puffs even in places I never would have smoked. I'd like to keep it that way.

 

[Smo]

I already stated my opinion on the subject, sayng that i try to be discrete and mannered using my ecig in public, and more so in those places where you are not allowed to smoke analogs. This all comes down to personal education and manners, but... IT'S NOT ILLEGAL, THUS I DO HAVE THE F00KIN RIGHT TO USE MY VAPORIZER WHEREVER I WANT! At least here in my country, where public places are regulated by law and not by a random security guard. The fact that in the long run such a behavior could bring a backslash it's another story, but anyday it will happen for me to be in a ...... mood and enter my grocery store steaming like a madman, and noone can say a word. RIGHT2VAPE!

PS: Sorry if that last sentence is messed up, i grew bored of tryng to fix my grammar.

 

[MonkeyMonk]

Welcome, noobies, great input!

 

[yoLS]

I've found myself a bit shy to vape in public even though whenever i do i usually don't get a negative reaction... just like most of you, after explaining what it is people tend to ease up on the "you can't smoke here" attitude... but at the same time i'm getting sick of explaining what it is, so i find myself either hiding it, or going outside like the rest of the smokers n vaping with them to try to camoflouage myself lol...

n e ways i've read sumwhere that in one brand of e-cigs that they give out a lil explanation card that you can keep in your wallet. can someone post up the exact wording or a scanned copy of this card so that i can print it out and laminate it and keep a copy in my wallet to save me from explaining it over n over again? thanks in advance

 

[SilverBraids]

I use it openly in my office, I've used it in my kids' Doctor's office, and I've used it in a Federal Building downtown. I get weird looks, but no one says anything... Maybe it's the head in the sand theory...

 

[BREWINZ]

I use it openly in my office, I've used it in my kids' Doctor's office, and I've used it in a Federal Building downtown. I get weird looks, but no one says anything... Maybe it's the head in the sand theory...

I think if I tried to use it in MA that way, the cops would pull a gun on me. "STAND DOWN!" If not, I just KNOW that some soccer mom would be just itching to freak out and make a scene. I think I will keep it in my pocket while in public for now.

 

[sherid]

I was at a teachers' meeting today and mentioned the e cig. At my table of four, they thought it was hilarious. Not one of them had ever heard of e cigs, and although all were non-smokers, they thought it was pretty cool. One person wanted a web site to get one for his sister. Later, another teacher who I had shown mine to at a previous meeting while we were outside smoking, came up to me to say she had lost the website and really wanted to buy one. After hanging out in here where it seems everyone knows about e cigs, I am amazed that actually very few people know anything at all about them.

 

[lewsadk]

I am still shy about using my PV in public. But I have converted three people to PV from analogs. They are telling more people as they are more assertive then I am! LOL! I do use my PV in the car with the USB passthrough battery and my car USB port in the cig lighter! I have had some strange looks from people with this thing in my mouth with a wire hanging out! At work, I just use it in my cubicle and blow the vapor in my collar. My boss has been there and seen the PV and never asked what it was. I have the platinum hybrid from Steve and it looks like a pen.

I hope to get braver as I use my PV and convert many more friends and relatives. I am going on vacation to see my mother in two weeks. All of my relatives smoke and I hope to have many more converts before I return home!

 

[Nicole]

I have converted one of my favorite karaoke hosts. He asked me about it last week. I gave him some urls to peek at. He informed me last night that he has an order on the way from Totally Wicked and he has been lurking on the forums (Hi Dave!!)

I don't mind it, I guess but I'm not trying to be the vapor ambassador either.

She converted me too! She's the first person I had ever seen with one, and so I started doing research, which is how I found ECF!

(Hey Rita!!!)

I'm placing my e-cig order next week (waiting for that tax refund, baby!) so I'm still on analogs for now, but I'm ready to quit them soon. I'd like to say I won't be shy, but I guess I won't really know until I get mine!

 

[JustJulie]

I am actually getting to the point where I'm fairly comfortable vaping in public. My brother teases me about being a "born again e-smoker" because I'm so excited about it, but I honestly feel that it has changed my life . . . and maybe even saved it. Consequently, I feel pretty good about being an e-smoking ambassador.

And, in my unofficial role as an e-smoking ambassador, I am keenly aware that for most of the people I meet, I'm probably their first exposure to e-cigs (or PVs, if you prefer). Accordingly, I do my best to present a positive, pleasant, and informative image.

If I am in a non-smoking area, I either ask permission (seeing it as an opportunity to spread the good word) or I vape very inconspicuously. Provoking confrontation is sometimes necessary, but more often than not, it's counter-productive. People who have something shoved in their faces rarely respond well. And, as an ambassador, it's my goal to promote acceptance, not resistance.

I especially love vaping in smoking areas around smokers. In fact, I try to vape openly and notoriously in smoking areas in hopes of attracting the attention of smokers. I know that while I loved smoking, it was truly a love-hate relationship. I wanted to quit, but I didn't--I loved smoking, but I hated it. Really, what I wanted was to be able to smoke without the horrible health consequences and nastiness. I think that many smokers are in the same boat, and when they see me happily vaping away and learn more about it, well, maybe I've given them some hope that there's something out there that can allow them to reduce or eliminate their tobacco habit.

If someone asks me if it's to help me quit smoking, I don't take offense because for me, that's exactly what this is . . . a way to quit smoking analog cigarettes, a way of becoming tobacco-free. Plus, when people see e-cigs as a way to avoid tobacco, well, they become a lot more supportive of the idea.

I printed the web addresses of my three favorite e-cig forums on business card-sized pieces of cardstock, and I keep those handy (along with some business cards from reputable vendors), and I give them out to people who express an interest.

Honestly, I think our best chance of public acceptance is introducing people to e-smoking in a positive fashion, not in a combative, in-your-face type of style.

In any event, for those who are shy about vaping in public, I do understand. But instead of thinking of it as drawing unwanted attention, perhaps if you start thinking of yourself as an e-smoking ambassador, it might make vaping in public not only more comfortable, but positively enjoyable.

And, yes, I am a Pollyanna.

 

[Dalfitz]

Ok I have read this and thought I would just put my two cents worth in. I just started with my PV and walked into the local 7-11 to get stuff not analogs, "Oh Yes", had it in my hand and it opened a brand new conversation and another person wanted to buy one and know where to get it. If enough of us get behind this I think we could win the fight against the Gov and the FDA. STAND PROUD AND VAPE AWAY!!!!!!!

 

[mctriple]

I'm a pretty shy person as well. I used to stand outside inbetween classes and smoke where everybody else congregated infront of the door to smoke. I only very rarely do that nowadays. I'm not one for much attention, and I know that if I go stand next to them with a big blue light, I'm going to have to explain it every single time, lol.

 

[Joolz]

I keep my vaping as inconspicuous as possible when I'm in a public, non-smoking place. I am fairly sure that if vaping becomes better known here in the UK then it will also end up being banned. I like being able to vape in, say, Ikea without anyone noticing because it means I feel more comfortable in the shop and don't have to leave after a couple of hours because I'm craving a cig.

If I spent more time around smokers in smoking environments, then I'm sure I would be completely open about using my ecig because I'd love more people to know about them.

Julie