I like and use the original Creme de Menthe, too, Mattie. There are restrictions now on how certain flavorings can be shipped, because of the amount of ethyl alcohol in them. Smaller bottles are OK, but when you order the larger sizes, it seems the amount of EA in that quantity surpasses what's allowed to go by air (which is how First Class Mail and Priority Mail packages are sent when they have to go longer distances). The Creme de Menthe II doesn't have EA in it. TFA says: "Crème de Menthe II is a less flammable version of our popular “Creme de Menthe” Flavor. Same great taste, without the shipping restrictions."
I noticed it quite awhile ago on the Wizard Labs website. They have the airplane graphic with the / through it on the 4oz. and larger sizes of those flavorings.
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Well, it seems that estimate was a bit off.
That should not be read to imply that I in any way approve of this tax; I do most certainly do not.
It better not be. I got 2.5 gallons of the stuff without considering "weight" issues. I could barely lift it. If we get 20 years of VG, forget fleeing for the zombie apocalypse because we are all going to have to remain in our homes, coupled to our "VG stash."
I've decided I'm not leaving anyway. I am going to pick a sensible plot of land near some reasonable natural resources and zombie proof the entire house. We can steal an RV if we need to make trips, but regardless of what fire or brimstone awaits me, I'm NEVER MOVING AGAIN.
After this time, I mean. Fortunately, I seem to have the Gift of Real Estate Prediction, as long as I consult the runes, I make a good choice. It's only when people don't listen to me on it, things go bad.
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The good news is that Zombies don't vape (yet). Our stashes will be secure!
That is about right, in 2 yrs I used one PG gal and most of a VG gal. I have 2 left.Hmm, I need about a half a gallon per year. So ten gallons. I think I only have eight.
Well, PG & VG are used for so many other things - like in the soap and cosmetics making.. Which includes home/DIY making of those products as well. So they would be safe for sure.
Although I'm sure 20 years of VG would fare well, I don't think 20 years of PG would fare that well... Based on my own observations of ancient PG & VG (~8 years old). The ancient PG started taking on a very 'fumy' characteristic, whereas the ancient VG was perfectly fine. But yeah -- in terms of the space needed to store all that, it would be problematic, to say the least.
I just hope they are right and it really does taste just as good as the original. It will be quite a while before I find out though because I don't want to break the seal until I actually need too.
IMO, PG is less essential than VG. In a pinch, I'd be fine vaping VG thinned with a bit of DW. But PG is also readily available by the gallon at any Tractor Supply as a bovine dietary supplement.
I don't think it's terribly problematical. Glycubes can be stacked several tall, and cases of a dozen 1-liter Boston rounds can be stacked as high as you'd care to in the corner of a closet.But yeah -- in terms of the space needed to store all that, it would be problematic, to say the least.
I vape around 80/20 70/30 PG/VG, due to better flavor - not to mention less coild gunk and less of the nasties (formaldehyde, acrolein, etc).
I also tend to go through roughly ~2gallons/year pg-vg - and have a VERY tiny 400 sq. foot apartment. It's already going to be problematic due to my ~650 flavors - all in 1/4/16oz sizes, with 4oz being the norm.
VG/PG I'm not worried at nor flavoring cause they are used in so many other things like Cotton. Same goes for batteries and to some extent wire. I was concerned about quality of wire especially thin gauge wire so I've stocked up on it.
Anyway with the threat of an internet ban I did order another Kennedy Vindicater and RDA. I'm very well stocked but I'm still rotating out my lower end and Clones out with quality gear.
Anyway FDA have delayed in order to get the manpower and they're about to launch the offensive that their Puppet Masters Big Pharma have instructed them to do.
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Anyway with the threat of an internet ban I did order another Kennedy Vindicater and RDA. I'm very well stocked but I'm still rotating out my lower end and Clones out with quality gear.
Anyway FDA have delayed in order to get the manpower and they're about to launch the offensive that their Puppet Masters Big Pharma have instructed them to do.
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I did say, "In a pinch". I normally mix 65VG / 35PG, but I've had some commercial liquids that were entirely PG-free and they were perfectly vapable. They weren't thick enough to be just VG, so I assume they must have been thinned with some amount of DW.I vape around 80/20 70/30 PG/VG, due to better flavor - not to mention less coild gunk and less of the nasties (formaldehyde, acrolein, etc).
I also tend to go through roughly ~2gallons/year pg-vg - and have a VERY tiny 400 sq. foot apartment. It's already going to be problematic due to my ~650 flavors - all in 1/4/16oz sizes, with 4oz being the norm.
I think might also be worth noting that testing done by @mikepetro indicates that 90VG / 10 DW likely produces fewer of those nasties than a VG/PG blend. Personally, I don't worry about it much.
Yeah, me neither.
My issues were more coil gunk and lower taste.. When trying to stick with higher VG, the gunk was bad enough that I just finally went back to higher PG and stayed there. Plus I really don't want to risk pissing off my apartment's overly sensitive, illegally loud fire alarm. 
With regards to juice, the only ingredient you need to stock is nic. Get the strongest concentration you are comfortable handling to save freezer space.
All other ingredients in ejuice are readily available through non-vape related sources, and will continue to be. I have been doing DIY for 5 years and I typically source from non-vape sources as they are inevitably less expensive.
VG and PG can be readily be found in a multitude of places. I have always been happy with "Essential Depot", but check out most any decent soap or cosmetic making supply store and you find both PG and VG. For example Soap Making Supplies | Cosmetic Ingredients
Concentrated Flavors will always be available in a multitude of culinary applications. Baking, Candy Making, etc.. Just do your homework on these, some are safer than others, and oil based flavorings can be a real pain to emulsify, you want water based flavorings.
The ONLY item the Feds can successfully regulate is nicotine and/or products marketed/packaged for the vaping market.
Focus your budget on concentrated nic, and hardware. If you are handy, mods can be easily made. Attys on the other hand are not easily made, so they should be on your short list right after nic.
Wire, cotton, rayon, etc will always be available for the build your own coil crowd, but your favorite cartridges may not.
I would wager it was just about two years ago.
Picked up another Kayfun plus, just because LOL
LOLIf I hadn't switched to BF RDAs (small ones, I'm strictly MTL), I'm sure I would still be vaping Kayfuns.Picked up another Kayfun plus, just because
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