Are you done stocking up?

[Wow1420]

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The Sally's bag is 10 feet for 2 bucks, plus I need to make a trip for some of their branded hair products for the fiber I have on my head.

Check the 10 ft. Package carefully, last I heard, the 10 ft. packs are cotton only, not rayon. They have Cellu Cotton in both cotton and rayon versions, but rayon is only available in the 500 ft. and 3 pound boxes.

I vape unflavored, so my wicks last a long, long time. I figure my box is at least a 500 year supply.

 

[Saippenu]

Are you talking about California? Or the State you live in?

BTW - What state do you live in?

I live in Taxachusetts and I am talking about my state. It's just unlikely that any state would try to tax based on how many cigs a cartridge equals. And even if they taxed per ml, it would be same tax. 1ml would be priced at 1/10 that of 10 ml...tax would come out the same.

No I am not a tax expert, I just have a good pool of common sense to draw from

 

[skelley]

This thread is moving to fast, heck one of my post wouldn't go through.
The information is out there, I will come back when things slow down to a conversation level....lol

 

[bnrkwest]

My husband started vaping about a month ago. He's currently enjoying a Halo Triton. He's been in limboland about vaping but asked me to stock a few up for him.

Can I please get suggestions for a Rebuildable device that is similar to the triton?

I used the Halo triton for quite awhile but don't know a rebuibable like it. Maybe he could go to a Provari mini and a Kayfun mini V3 for a tank? That would be my guess.

 

[zoiDman]

How many of them are big enough to be able to invest the millions of dollars needed to prepare PMTAs? And even if they have the money to do that, are they willing to do that when there's no assurance they their applications will be approved?

Very True.

There is Also the Fallacy that what occurred in the Past will continue to occur in the Future. Because that ALL Changed on May 5th, 2016.

 

[cats5365]

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Check the 10 ft. Package carefully, last I heard, the 10 ft. packs are cotton only, not rayon. They have Cellu Cotton in both cotton and rayon versions, but rayon is only available in the 500 ft. and 3 pound boxes.

I vape unflavored, so my wicks last a long, long time. I figure my box is at least a 500 year supply.

Thanks for the tip, the website says rayon, but the photo shows cotton. I will have to check when I go down there.

 

[Rossum]

Nah, it's a percentage of the price of the item so a pack of cigs costs $5 and with my state's 90% tax they cost around $10 to buy. It will be the same with e-juice and cartridges. I currently pay $10 for a bottle of ejuice that lasts me a week. After the tax it will cost me around $20 per week.

Most cigarette taxes are not a percentage of the price; they are a flat tax per pack. At the federal level, I believe it's currently $1.01 per pack, some states add as much as $4.00 per pack to that. If the politicians get it in their heads to tax e-liquid in an "equivalent" manner, they will do it by the milliliter, or perhaps by the milligram of nic.

 

[zoiDman]

I live in Taxachusetts and I am talking about my state. It's just unlikely that any state would try to tax based on how many cigs a cartridge equals. And even if they taxed per ml, it would be same tax. 1ml would be priced at 1/10 that of 10 ml...tax would come out the same.

No I am not a tax expert, I just have a good pool of common sense to draw from

Gotcha.

And I'm not saying that it would make any Sense to impose a Tax based on Cigarettes per Pre-Fill Cartridge. But having lived in California as long as I have, I don't think Sense plays a Huge Role in what goes on in Sacramento.

 

[Down-Time]

I used the Halo triton for quite awhile but don't know a rebuibable like it. Maybe he could go to a Provari mini and a Kayfun mini V3 for a tank? That would be my guess.

Thank you!

I was just looking at the Kayfun mini v3 as a viable option for him. He really likes the triton but having to depend on buying coils for it really isn't an option for us.

 

[Just Me]

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Check the 10 ft. Package carefully, last I heard, the 10 ft. packs are cotton only, not rayon. They have Cellu Cotton in both cotton and rayon versions, but rayon is only available in the 500 ft. and 3 pound boxes.

I vape unflavored, so my wicks last a long, long time. I figure my box is at least a 500 year supply.

True, the 10 foot bag is cotton. The big box is rayon. I discovered that by buying the bag first. Both say cellucotton, confusing.

 

[Just Me]

I used the Halo triton for quite awhile but don't know a rebuibable like it. Maybe he could go to a Provari mini and a Kayfun mini V3 for a tank? That would be my guess.

That's exactly my setup. Love it!

 

[Saippenu]

Most cigarette taxes are not a percentage of the price; they are a flat tax per pack. At the federal level, I believe it's currently $1.01 per pack, some states add as much as $4.00 per pack to that. If the politicians get it in their heads to tax e-liquid in an "equivalent" manner, they will do it by the milliliter, or perhaps by the milligram of nic.

https://www.tobaccofreekids.org/research/factsheets/pdf/0202.pdf
Sorry I wasn't talking about state sales tax, I was referring to tobacco tax in particular

 

[Dubminer]

I was just looking at the Kayfun mini v3 as a viable option for him. He really likes the triton but having to depend on buying coils for it really isn't an option for us.

I recently just started wrapping coils and would never go back to premade ones.If i can do it anybody can.Just read up on it first and watch a few videos.

 

[zoiDman]

Most cigarette taxes are not a percentage of the price; they are a flat tax per pack. At the federal level, I believe it's currently $1.01 per pack, some states add as much as $4.00 per pack to that. If the politicians get it in their heads to tax e-liquid in an "equivalent" manner, they will do it by the milliliter, or perhaps by the milligram of nic.

e-Cigarettes severely Complicated things when it came to calculating a uniform Tax Basis.

Because a person who vapes 9ml/day of 3mg/ml uses about the Same amount of Nicotine as one who vape 2ml/day of 14mg/mg. But a Vastly different Volume of e-Liquids.

Also consider that 100mg/ml Nicotine Base is Not Vapable. It is a Component Part of making a e-Liquid. So would a Tax on ml's make sense?

I have Ultimate Faith in California's ability to completely Hose Up a Tax on e-Liquids. And to use the Consequences of such a Tax as a means to a de faco Ban on Liquid e-Liquids.

 

[b.m.]

Is this from something you have Read outside the ECF? Or is this something that One Particular member here has been Posting without any supporting Information?

If you have any information on California, I would Love to see it.

I haven't followed what other states are saying,but here in my state last year they were trying to pass a big tax on juice,and that is what they said,that 1ml was equal to a pack.

 

[Rossum]

e-Cigarettes severely Complicated things when it came to calculating a uniform Tax Basis.

Because a person who vapes 9ml/day of 3mg/ml uses about the Same amount of Nicotine as one who vape 2ml/day of 14mg/mg. But a Vastly different Volume of e-Liquids.

Also consider that 100mg/ml Nicotine Base is Not Vapable. It is a Component Part of making a e-Liquid. So would a Tax on ml's make sense?

I have Ultimate Faith in California's ability to completely Hose Up a Tax on e-Liquids. And to use the Consequences of such a Tax as a means to a de faco Ban on Liquid e-Liquids.

Indeed, in jurisdictions where taxes are by the milliliter, I'd expect a resurgence in sales of high-nic juices, which those who wish to use high-powered cloud-chasing gear will learn to cut with plain VG.

 

[zoiDman]

I haven't followed what other states are saying,but here in my state last year they were trying to pass a big tax on juice,and that is what they said,that 1ml was equal to a pack.

I take it that it Didn't Pass?

I think you find that when the Calculated per day Tax amount for e-Liquids starts to Exceed the same per day amount that the Average Smokers pays, that Bi-Partisan supports to fall off.

And the Specter of a State driving a Significant portion of it's population into Black/Grey Markets because of Excessive Taxation starts to be considered.

 

[zoiDman]

Indeed, in jurisdictions where taxes are by the milliliter, I'd expect a resurgence in sales of high-nic juices, which those who wish to use high-powered cloud-chasing gear will learn to cut with plain VG.

It would seem that $/mg is the Only thing that makes sense.

But when was the Sensibility the 1st thing considered when Drafting a New Tax?

 

[Saippenu]

It would seem that $/mg is the Only thing that makes sense.

But when was the Sensibility the 1st thing considered when Drafting a New Tax?

I know right? Right after I made my post it occurred to me that I was attempting to use common sense to predict government regulation. What on earth was I thinking?

 

[Eskie]

This thread is moving to fast, heck one of my post wouldn't go through.
The information is out there, I will come back when things slow down to a conversation level....lol

If you think it's moving fast now, just wait until August 7th rolls around.