Cloud competitions

[Susan~S]

Also thank you for the videos and I always preach battery safety. I always make sure my builds are reasonable for the battery I'm using.

Although the videos give some good tips, his builds (0.06Ω & 0.09Ω) do not respect the CDR of a single 30A battery. 30A is the highest amp 18650 battery you will find. Any 18650 battery with a wrapper claiming 35A, 38A, 40A, etc is the "pulse discharge rating" not the "continuous discharge rating".

Check out this blog post by @Baditude (one of our resident battery/safety experts) regarding the "mislabeling" of batteries.

Purple Efest Batteries not as Advertised
* A cautionary blog that reveals that the purple Efest batteries may not have the specifications advertised. Also includes a commentary on "continuous discharge ratings" vs "pulse discharge ratings" of battery specs.

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One other point to be considered when it comes to safety. Everyone is free to set their own parameters, and I can only say what mine are.

I try to never exceed 50% of the CDR (continuous discharge rating) of a fully charged battery (4.2v). So with a 30A battery, that would be 15A. This Ohm's Law Calculator tells me that a 0.28Ω build is as low as I would want to use.

The reason that I place a 50% limit is because as a battery ages the mAh of the battery degrades. As the mAh degrades so does the batteries c rating (amp limit). So down the road, my 30A battery may only be a 15A battery.

 

[Bad Ninja]

I see a bunch of posters that have no defense when someone mentions subohmers and cloud chasers being ostracized on this site.

I agree. Happens often around here.

Advanced age is no excuse for childish actions.

Tapatyped

I'll have you know, Thanks to my Ninja Skills not a single Shogun has attacked my village.

 

[alicewonderland]

cloud chasing just seems like a derogatory term now. Instead of being called a vaper people who like to blow big clouds are called cloud chasers, and the whole meaning of 'cloud chaser' in of itself, reminds of of the term 'storm chaser', wherein someone who is a cloudchaser is someone who just wants the biggest clouds and will do and try anything to produce that effect. Like those tornado chasers that drive towards tornados because they can never get enough of it, I just worry one day they will get sucked up in the tornado and wont be able to stormchase anymore. Labels are stupid. If you are looking for serious help Id suggest leaving that term out of any of your future threads/post. The term cloudchasing just eminates ridiculousness nowadays

 

[hashtag]

I posted in another thread my thoughts on the cloud chaser hate, I honestly don't think it is the concept of blowing huge clouds, it's the people associated with the movement. When I think cloud chaser I picture the 20 something hipster with a curly mustache looking down on everyone who acts as if every non cloud chaser "doesn't get vaping".

Good luck on the comp, I don't have much to add that hasn't been said. Be safe and be smart, keeping your hand is more important than winning or impressing people. I think the idea of a cloud comp is a little silly but getting together with a bunch of knowledgeable vapors is always fun. I haven't heard of any comps in my area but I would attend just to socialize if I saw one.

 

[catalinaflyer]

So like normal I'm going to jump in late. OP, your best bet is your local B&M shops. There are no "national" rules per se for cloud competitions. In my local market they are run by the B&M shops and each one has it's own set of rules. Some actually limit the ohm's you can build to and they check them. Others is more like a run what you brung race where anything goes.

As for crawling down peoples throats about cloud chasing, well that's one of the reasons I haven't been coming around here much any more. Seems like a lot of the members here have adopted an elitist attitude towards anything they view as outside what they consider normal. I'm 47, a grandfather and when I feel like it I blow clouds. I have a regulated mod capable of 260 watts and if the mood strikes me I will build a coil capable of 260 and blow a cloud or have fun with vapor tricks on the dining room table or pester the smoke alarms in my hotel room (okay, that last one was an accident).

 

[Robert Cromwell]

I see a bunch of posters that have no defense when someone mentions subohmers and cloud chasers being ostracized on this site.

Advanced age is no excuse for childish actions.

Tapatyped

Yes perhaps some of us view cloud chasing competition as a childish action? But if you want to do it do not expect everyone to cheer you on.

 

[SissySpike]

[Moderated]
No the thread is valid and perfectly fine this attitude against anyone cloud chasing is stupid and this troll flaming of a post should be edited.

Cloud chasing kinda dose a good job of describing what some people enjoy doing the only thing derogatory about it is some like to look down at others from their imagined lofty perch over the world.

 

[jambi]

Thank you for actually respecting me asking for advice. I honestly thought I'd get better feedback. But I guess I can't ask for advice without being disrespected. Also thank you for the videos and I always preach battery safety. I always make sure my builds are reasonable for the battery I'm using.

Don't take it personally. Clouds are the scapegoat of the hour here, well...shared with The Pros and Cons of Stealth Vaping in Walmart. Just the mere mention gets everyone riled up and slinging blame about the Impending Regulatory Doom of Vaping.

Don't get the wrong impression; most of us are really nice, just a touch, er... nervous due to nicotine with-drawwl.

 

[Thrasher]

I found this picture of bad ninja lounging by the pool.

Man.

Is he good or what?

 

[Robino1]

I see a bunch of posters that have no defense when someone mentions subohmers and cloud chasers being ostracized on this site.

Advanced age is no excuse for childish actions.

Tapatyped

Bingo!!

I suggest everyone tone it down a bit. If you cannot answer a members questions respectfully, do not post anything and move to another thread where your help is truly needed.

/end of public service announcement

 

[Robert Dean]

hello everyone, I have been vaping for quite some time now. I think it's time I wanna start doing cloud comps. I was wondering if anyone had any advice or anything. I can blow some pretty big clouds I just wanna know if anyone has any advice to enhance my clouds.

If it is allowable in the rules of the comp, use a VV/VW device, as they have more safety features than a mech mod. But, I would not recommend ever building below a .1, I have a .15 in and have had no problems running this thing at 100 watts and chucking some competition winning clouds. But for real. Battery. Safety. I use exclusively VTC4's for a reason. Good brand. Good battery. Do some research before you throw a .08 build in a mech and blow your hand off. I'm serious. But, for real, do go find a B&M that holds comps or Knows bout them. It's a blast! Best of luck!!

 

[LMS62]

Yes perhaps some of us view cloud chasing competition as a childish action? But if you want to do it do not expect everyone to cheer you on.

View cloud chasing competitions anyway you like, as that is certainly your right. However, the OP wasn't asking anyone to cheer him on, he was asking a question.

If someone finds it to be childish, the solution is simple.....don't respond to the thread. I have to admit though, grown adults trying to justify why it's alright to be rude to someone is a bit entertaining.

 

[Rizzyking]

It's not my thing but it's something others like doing and whether some like it or not they are members of our community and should be treated with common respect. Op I apologise I can't offer you any practical help in your goal other then to say go to the well organised events where safety is paramount as while your setup may be safe sadly not everyones are so the b&m's that examine builds and setups to ensure as much safety as is practical are the one's to go to more so if your just starting out in that area. Good luck to you hope you find the enjoyment your looking for and stay safe .

 

[sonicbomb]

I shared my opinion on competitive vaping recently and got berated for it. So I will keep my views to myself, and share some nice images of clouds instead for everyone's delectation.

 

[ReigntheGamer]

From one Star Wars fan to another the cloud is strong with you padawan.

 

[alicewonderland]

lol my post got deleted because I guess i was too brash. It wasnt meant as an insult, more of a poking fun at another 'clouds' thread, since most of the recent ones were just threads like 'what do you think of cloud chasers' , 'why do people subohm', or like-named threads that are just basically made to spark up controversial arguements, which just leads to the same heated arguements and mods deleting posts/closing the thread altogether. Sorry if it was taken the wrong way.

 

[ReigntheGamer]

I think we all should have a beer, shot, sugar free soda, whatever and vape. The side picking stuff is annoying and I will admit in some of my more unflattering moments have lashed out one way or the other. I never have nor will I ever understand how people who have a universal common interest come to "interwebs" blows over such immature stances but I guess that the idealist in me and doesn't always fly with the way things really are.

It all comes down to people being different and if we can't accept that more to the point if we use it to ridicule them in some form or other what does that say about us as people? Vape on friends, Reign loves ya.

 

[Jazzman]

No, and that's not what I am trying to accomplish by saying that just agreeing that the climate of this forum has changed for the worse. But I am sure it might be misconstrued that way, if it is so be it.

The internet is changing society in interesting ways due to its anonymous nature. The way many people talk on the internet is truly divergent from the way they talk face to face in normal polite society. It's like the internal dialog we all have with nastiness and brashness that we would never vocalize out of basic common decency and politeness is rampant on the internet where we can hide behind avatars and handles. The fascinating thing is that through years of internet use this same lack of respect for others is starting to be mimicked in real life and lack of tolerance for anything is becoming more pronounced.

Say goodbye to a genteel society. And because of the scope of the internet, this change is world wide. It's not just a small geographic area.

It's also interesting that a forum that tries to maintain basic civil discourse (like ECF) is denigrated and eschewed by a great many that believe this is a problem that shouldn't be allowed to continue. Of course, there are enough of us left that believe anything can be said and arguments can be engaged in with wit and intelligence without resorting to verbal challenge and anger that places like ECF are still preferred venues for discussion. But I do wonder how long this will last given the internet mentality trend I see pervading society. I'll just enjoy it while I can and resist the temptation to engage in internet douchebaggery until it becomes the normal way of conversation. And it will, eventually I suppose.

 

[sonicbomb]

 

[beckdg]

Yes perhaps some of us view cloud chasing competition as a childish action? But if you want to do it do not expect everyone to cheer you on.

You're barking up the wrong tree.

I'm a quitter. I don't compete.

But the lack of maturity here has everything to do with anti - cloud (quoted post for example) and nothing to do with clouds at all.

Tapatyped