Trust me as a gamer and someone who frequents those types of forums I get it I really do. I have seen people threaten others lives over what console they prefer (whether there is any merit to it) which is why this slippery slope I see this forum on bothers me to no end. But this is what we're faced with and will see where it goes.
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Trust me as a gamer and someone who frequents those types of forums I get it I really do. I have seen people threaten others lives over what console they prefer (whether there is any merit to it) which is why this slippery slope I see this forum on bothers me to no end. But this is what we're faced with and will see where it goes.
I think we all should have a beer, shot, sugar free soda, whatever and vape. The side picking stuff is annoying and I will admit in some of my more unflattering moments have lashed out one way or the other. I never have nor will I ever understand how people who have a universal common interest come to "interwebs" blows over such immature stances but I guess that the idealist in me and doesn't always fly with the way things really are.
It all comes down to people being different and if we can't accept that more to the point if we use it to ridicule them in some form or other what does that say about us as people? Vape on friends, Reign loves ya.
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Raises my vape and beer to ya! The dg is always good in my book.
Everybody be very very quite, Robin is watching us so back out slowly and quietly.
And on another note, I just upset another motel room smoke detector which got me a call from guest services and a visit from maintenance to make sure I wasn't smoking in the room. I told both of them I was just steaming but...............well I got told to stop so I'm moving to a new hotel on the other side of the airport tomorrow if I don't get to go home. Oh wait, my home address is my Hilton Honors card number.
And on another note, I just upset another motel room smoke detector which got me a call from guest services and a visit from maintenance to make sure I wasn't smoking in the room. I told both of them I was just steaming but...............well I got told to stop so I'm moving to a new hotel on the other side of the airport tomorrow if I don't get to go home. Oh wait, my home address is my Hilton Honors card number.
I'm only doing this once, as a last ditch effort.
If you don't like what someone is doing move on. Don't chastise them. They came hear for answers and were effectively showing them the door.
This is not what ECF stood for, we need to become the diverse community we once were. Accepting of everyone.
If a new member comes in, with questions and doesn't want to accept the answers be it too low a resistance or refusing to understand battery safety. Its on them, its not our place to belittle them.
Let's try to get back to helping and teaching not ramming our opinions down others throats.
I'm on forums around the world, and week after week I meet more and more people who left ECF over this nonesense.
It's to the point now other forums are using threads EXACTLY LIKE THIS ONE as an open recruiting tool as to why you should avoid joining here and why they are better.
And that's sad, is that what everybody wants?. To become our own little walled off subreddit?
So I'm putting out an open call to new members and vets alike - let's take back our forum. And prove to the world what made ECF great in the first place - our very rich and diverse community of vapors helping vapors.
Many of the items, devices and theories we know were in some way created here. I can remember many new devices and concepts coming to fruitation on these very forums. Now those same sub areas are dead almost.
So I'm asking everyone, please stop the nonesense, we are better then that. And we need to prove it.
If you don't like a post, bite your tongue and move on, please.
If you don't like what someone is doing move on. Don't chastise them. They came hear for answers and were effectively showing them the door.
This is not what ECF stood for, we need to become the diverse community we once were. Accepting of everyone.
If a new member comes in, with questions and doesn't want to accept the answers be it too low a resistance or refusing to understand battery safety. Its on them, its not our place to belittle them.
Let's try to get back to helping and teaching not ramming our opinions down others throats.
I'm on forums around the world, and week after week I meet more and more people who left ECF over this nonesense.
It's to the point now other forums are using threads EXACTLY LIKE THIS ONE as an open recruiting tool as to why you should avoid joining here and why they are better.
And that's sad, is that what everybody wants?. To become our own little walled off subreddit?
So I'm putting out an open call to new members and vets alike - let's take back our forum. And prove to the world what made ECF great in the first place - our very rich and diverse community of vapors helping vapors.
Many of the items, devices and theories we know were in some way created here. I can remember many new devices and concepts coming to fruitation on these very forums. Now those same sub areas are dead almost.
So I'm asking everyone, please stop the nonesense, we are better then that. And we need to prove it.
If you don't like a post, bite your tongue and move on, please.
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The whole youngster/cloud chasing scene is a thing, I get that.
I also understand a lot of older folks here, who started vaping in order to save their lives from a decades long, crazy addiction, have mixed feeling about teenagers asking about how look bad *** with a PV.
Now I'm reminded of that feeling; only these days, it's electronic.
This makes the ECF sanctuary now up for grabs.
I also understand a lot of older folks here, who started vaping in order to save their lives from a decades long, crazy addiction, have mixed feeling about teenagers asking about how look bad *** with a PV.
Now I'm reminded of that feeling; only these days, it's electronic.
This makes the ECF sanctuary now up for grabs.
I can't wait for the official cloud chaser movie, a high-stakes crime caper surrounding a bunch of cloud chasing hipsters. Only it'll be like Gleaming the Cube, or Thrashin', or Lords of Dogtown, maybe even a pinch of Point Break.
So what about older folks who ditched the lifelong addiction (in my case 22 years worth) only when I got that first lung full of a larger than normal puff of vapor? The misconception is that its kids just doing it for fun. I tried the other setups and didn't put down the smokes till I got my first pull off a mech with a subohm dual coil.
The civility is what makes ECF unique and special...
We are growing at an amazing rate...and...
With that growth comes different "styles" as vaping is becoming more the norm over smoking.
The big clouds are really no different than modifying your car to go faster...to perform better...
It would be appreciated if the slamming posts were reported instead of griped about for 10 pages...
That way staff can step in sooner and encourage a change of tone.
We are to treat fellow members with respect here.
We are growing at an amazing rate...and...
With that growth comes different "styles" as vaping is becoming more the norm over smoking.
The big clouds are really no different than modifying your car to go faster...to perform better...
It would be appreciated if the slamming posts were reported instead of griped about for 10 pages...
That way staff can step in sooner and encourage a change of tone.
We are to treat fellow members with respect here.
Easy solution that every member needs to remember stick to what interests you if your not into clouds stay away from those threads likewise whatever flavour of vaping you prefer.
Cheers to the Voices of Reason.
There are options for "ignoring" members and/or threads if we don't like something we're reading. I wandered into these hallways about 15 months ago. I've read all kinds of posts from encouraging and educating to bashing and trashing. I have learned a LOT from many of the members here. I've tried to offer advice where I feel somewhat competent to do so (and there have been times I've been wrong - some have corrected me in a gentle manner, and a few in not quite so gentle a manner, but not to a point where I've felt belittled.)
We may not agree with someone else's opinions or actions, and if another individual wants to qualify for the Darwin Award, that is ON THEM. The ECF I've come to know and love is a ginormous support network. I'd hate to see it become anything else
There are options for "ignoring" members and/or threads if we don't like something we're reading. I wandered into these hallways about 15 months ago. I've read all kinds of posts from encouraging and educating to bashing and trashing. I have learned a LOT from many of the members here. I've tried to offer advice where I feel somewhat competent to do so (and there have been times I've been wrong - some have corrected me in a gentle manner, and a few in not quite so gentle a manner, but not to a point where I've felt belittled.)
We may not agree with someone else's opinions or actions, and if another individual wants to qualify for the Darwin Award, that is ON THEM. The ECF I've come to know and love is a ginormous support network. I'd hate to see it become anything else
I can't wait for the official cloud chaser movie, a high-stakes crime caper surrounding a bunch of cloud chasing hipsters. Only it'll be like Gleaming the Cube, or Thrashin', or Lords of Dogtown, maybe even a pinch of Point Break.
Its these types of incessant jokes that make cloud chasers feel ostracized on ECF. Would you think it was funny if I compared tootle puffers to the fart sniffing Prius drivers on that one south park episode? The constant need to prove that low wattage devices are good enough for you doesn't mean anything to someone who used to smoke 2 packs of camel wides a day. I would never go to a cloud competition and rarely vape around non-smokers, to me clouds are just a way to guage the quality of my coils and wicking methods. But the stereotypes and passive aggressive attitude around here is getting old
I've been around ECF for years, and IMO the only things that have really changed, are the products on the market compared to a few years ago. The forums haven't really changed, atleast to me. With more popularity, comes more user traffic, which also brings more opinions. I don't think its a bad thing.
If people feel like theyre not being 'accepted' because of the way they vape, then maybe they shouldn't be on here. People talk, people argue, people have different views. As long as there's no personal attacks or racism, I say thumbs up.
Things would be boring if it was a big love fest in here.
Drama sells, people. It is what it is.
If people feel like theyre not being 'accepted' because of the way they vape, then maybe they shouldn't be on here. People talk, people argue, people have different views. As long as there's no personal attacks or racism, I say thumbs up.
Things would be boring if it was a big love fest in here.
Drama sells, people. It is what it is.
You've never seen Gleaming the Cube, then, have you? That movie kicks all sorts of major .... Lords of Dogtown and Point Break were pretty OK, too.
Notice the winks I added at the bottom of my post. And if you read my post history, you'll see I have nothing against big clouds of vapor. It's the people, not the device. And work in a vape store. You just might change your opinion after talking to kiddies who only want to blow clouds.
The civility is what makes ECF unique and special...
We are growing at an amazing rate...and...
With that growth comes different "styles" as vaping is becoming more the norm over smoking.
The big clouds are really no different than modifying your car to go faster...to perform better...
It would be appreciated if the slamming posts were reported instead of griped about for 10 pages...
That way staff can step in sooner and encourage a change of tone.
We are to treat fellow members with respect here.
I just want to say thanks to classwife, Robino1, Dusty and Sonic for always being the voices of reason here on ECF. I am sure I won't make it here much longer but you all have been a pleasure to be around and converse with even when you were scolding me when I needed to "reel" it in a bit. I am going to miss yall.
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