Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

[zoiDman]

It’s interesting to see some blowback coming from the legislators. N.C. has a dog in the fight, but I don’t recall tobacco ever being grown in Wisconsin. The FDA needs to be reminded what it’s actual mission is.

Senator Ron Johnson is the Chairman of the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.

It is informally referred to as "The Senate Oversight Committee"

"It was called the United States Senate Committee on Governmental Affairs before homeland security was added to its responsibilities in 2004. It serves as the Senate's chief investigative and oversight committee. Its chair is the only Senate committee chair who can issue subpoenas without a committee vote."

 

[Hoggy]

Senator Ron Johnson is the Chairman of the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.

It is informally referred to as "The Senate Oversight Committee"

"It was called the United States Senate Committee on Governmental Affairs before homeland security was added to its responsibilities in 2004. It serves as the Senate's chief investigative and oversight committee. Its chair is the only Senate committee chair who can issue subpoenas without a committee vote."

Even though I'm left winged, this right here is why I voted (& will vote) for him in WI here. For this reason alone.

 

[Bronze]

Even though I'm left winged, this right here is why I voted (& will vote) for him in WI here. For this reason alone.

Any pol would be wise to support vapers. Lots of die hard voters there who would ditch their party to keep vaping viable.

 

[untar]

Even though I'm left winged

Good on you, I abandoned being on any "wing" a long time ago. What matters are the individual people that are voted for and there's idiots everywhere. I'm not going to vote for an idiot just because their necktie/scarf has a certain color.

Yeah a candidate will probably not do everything they told they would (or sneak in new things they didn't tell before) but with a smart person there's at least the chance of a decent outcome, with the idiot you can be 100% sure it'll be a disaster if they try to do what they said or not.

 

[newyork13]

Not sure.
I might choose to vote for an honest idiot, versus a smart corrupt thief.
That's often our choice.

 

[NolaMel]

Not sure.
I might choose to vote for an honest idiot, versus a smart corrupt thief.
That's often our choice.

Glad to know it’s not just Louisiana politics. Unfortunately, politics is a business, not a public service. They will always go where the money is, and give lip service to those with agendas they have no intention of supporting just to shut them up. vaping’s fate will come down to who ponies up the most money

 

[newyork13]

Yes, that's it. All those folks are not there for us, but for themselves.
The only solution that I can see is term limits. One term and you go home to do something useful. We will find out who cares about the service. And, you politicos are subject to the same things we common folks are: social security (not your nifty pension system), Obamacare (or whatever it turns out to be, not your cushy medical insurance) and on and on. They also can vote themselves raises. Hands up for anybody else who can do that.
What a joke.
I decided to vote against any incumbent. Don't care if they're good or not.

 

[ScottP]

Not sure.
I might choose to vote for an honest idiot, versus a smart corrupt thief.
That's often our choice.

Well our last election was between a dishonest idiot and a smart corrupt thief.

 

[ScottP]

Yes, that's it. All those folks are not there for us, but for themselves.
The only solution that I can see is term limits. One term and you go home to do something useful. We will find out who cares about the service. And, you politicos are subject to the same things we common folks are: social security (not your nifty pension system), Obamacare (or whatever it turns out to be, not your cushy medical insurance) and on and on. They also can vote themselves raises. Hands up for anybody else who can do that.
What a joke.
I decided to vote against any incumbent. Don't care if they're good or not.

Do the math. People go to Washington and leave with orders of magnitude more money than what they earned via salary, even if they never spent a cent of it.

I agree with term limits, but I think it should be 12 years (2 terms for a Senator and 6 terms for a Congressman). That makes it even for both houses and gives them enough time to do something. One term for the House of Representatives (2 years) isn't enough time to even get started doing something.

 

[ScottP]

Actually more than Term limits, what we really need is to make voting on a bill that would either directly or indirectly benefit a company that a politician owns stock in, punishable as insider trading. Right now politicians go to Washington, buy stocks and then vote for legislation to benefit their holdings. Democrats do this primarily with Big Tobaco, Big Pharma, and Green Energy stocks. Republicans do this primarily with Big Oil, Wall Street, and military contract companies. In other words they are financially invested in the bills they are voting for. This is how they leave office so rich. Term limits alone won't solve this, it would just give them less time to make it big.

The sad truth is that we will never get either Term limits or this limitation I am mentioning now. Why? Because the people that would have to implement these changes are the same people that are getting rich by NOT implementing them. They are never going to vote to limit their own ability to make money.

 

[stols001]

I gotta agree here. No one votes themselves out of a steady job with tons of graft. It's just not going to happen. It would be nice, but human nature makes it impossible.

I am also dismayed that senators and whatnot have a "severance" package that EXACTLY equals their paycheck and benefits while working, more or less.

I'm just waiting for them to unionize so it can be more. I jest. Sort of.

Anna

 

[Rossum]

I'm just waiting for them to unionize so it can be more.

What are they gonna do, go on strike?

 

[Hoggy]

What are they gonna do, go on strike?

Well, they already do - when the president is of the opposite party to their own.

 

[Bronze]

What are they gonna do, go on strike?

Hopefully

 

[Brewdawg1181]

We’ll be polite and not mention yesterday’s game. Although I will be fair....despite my houndstooth colored blood, Georgia should have won. My boys looked like crap. Himself laughed at me for that sentiment, but I have gained gallons of empathy after 35+ years with a rabid LSU fan.

Dratted random notifications! I know you thought I was in depression filled isolation (only partly true! ). One day (soon?) I'll quit re-living the nightmares of my beloved canines outperforming the evil one, only to find us on the short end of the scoreboard due to backup QB's!

Okay, now let's all resume complaining about the other inevitability - corrupt politicians.

 

[NolaMel]

Has anyone seen the discussion in other threads about the prize kit from Joytech that’s being held by UPS’s fda brokerage office for payment? It doesn’t add up in my wae brain. Perhaps brighter minds here can shed some light on it

 

[Bronze]

Has anyone seen the discussion in other threads about the prize kit from Joytech that’s being held by UPS’s fda brokerage office for payment? It doesn’t add up in my wae brain. Perhaps brighter minds here can shed some light on it

That counts me out.

 

[NolaMel]

That counts me out.

THAT I sincerely doubt .

 

[DPLongo22]

The sad truth is that we will never get either Term limits or this limitation I am mentioning now. Why? Because the people that would have to implement these changes are the same people that are getting rich by NOT implementing them. They are never going to vote to limit their own ability to make money.

COSAction

 

[Brewdawg1181]

COSAction