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Huge can of worms.

Look at what happened the last time. The States' delegates were authorized to amend the Articles of Confederation, but instead of doing that, they threw them out and started over with an entirely new document.
 

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Huge can of worms.

Look at what happened the last time. The States' delegates were authorized to amend the Articles of Confederation, but instead of doing that, they threw them out and started over with an entirely new document.

I'm willing to take my chances at this point. It's the only thing they gave us to take the power back. For me, that's good enough (compared to the abuse we allowed them to create).
 

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What are they gonna do, go on strike? :laugh:

If they are intelligent, they will threaten to continue their governance, only maybe MORE so, like increase their work hours to oh, 6 per day and only take holidays the same way as the rest of us. That would be super effective, more so than striking, because it would strike terror into the hearts and minds of the few free thinking citizens left in the known universe.

The unknown universe is probably staying far, far away from us at the moment. :)

Anna
 

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If they are intelligent, they will threaten to continue their governance, only maybe MORE so, like increase their work hours to oh, 6 per day and only take holidays the same way as the rest of us. That would be super effective, more so than striking, because it would strike terror into the hearts and minds of the few free thinking citizens left in the known universe.

The unknown universe is probably staying far, far away from us at the moment. :)

Anna
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Actually more than Term limits, what we really need is to make voting on a bill that would either directly or indirectly benefit a company that a politician owns stock in, punishable as insider trading. Right now politicians go to Washington, buy stocks and then vote for legislation to benefit their holdings. Democrats do this primarily with Big Tobaco, Big Pharma, and Green Energy stocks. Republicans do this primarily with Big Oil, Wall Street, and military contract companies. In other words they are financially invested in the bills they are voting for. This is how they leave office so rich. Term limits alone won't solve this, it would just give them less time to make it big.

The sad truth is that we will never get either Term limits or this limitation I am mentioning now. Why? Because the people that would have to implement these changes are the same people that are getting rich by NOT implementing them. They are never going to vote to limit their own ability to make money.
That's a sad state of affairs, isn't it?
We know they're corrupt, they hold the power to fix this corruption, but they won't because they're corrupt.

We may need a more basic and drastic change.

And BTW, to your earlier post about term limits and giving them more time to get things done. Maybe, just maybe, the less they get done the better.

And, as best as I can determine, the members of Congress have exempted themselves from any insider trading laws.
So, once again, I say, they should be subject to all the laws which we are, they should be the beneficiaries (or screwed by) all the programs they implement.
 

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Most of you might've seen this, since it was in the ECF newsletter, but thought it'd be worth posting here:Vaping Slashes Youth Smoking Rates

Yeah, but...

There's the "lady" over on YouTube selling the idea that there's no difference between vaping and smoking.

One of our esteemed members did manage to cut her off at the @gnees though. ;) :thumb:

Good job, gnees. :thumbs:
 

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Yeah, but...

There's the "lady" over on YouTube selling the idea that there's no difference between vaping and smoking.

One of our esteemed members did manage to cut her off at the @gnees though. ;) :thumb:

Good job, gnees. :thumbs:
Sounds interesting, DP, but I don't know where to look. Got a link?
 

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I abhor the idea of giving her public space, but I'll PM it to you. Gnees' "exchange" with her was yesterday (for date reference).
Good call, DP- I only watched a couple of minutes. It was all I could handle (she's pretty scary!). I'd hate for our ECF viewers to waste time on her!:lol:

edit: Oh, and good work @gnees ! Haven't seen you around much. Guess you've been dueling with those frightening youtube women!
 
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Good call, DP- I only watched a couple of minutes. It was all I could handle (she's pretty scary!). I'd hate for our ECF viewers to waste time on her!:lol:

I must admit that I couldn't take much of her either, but @gnees took good notes. She's GNUTZ! :shock:
 

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With all of the talk here about the governments need for money on here, the government's lust for money is augmented by a large segment of people who lust for power and control over the lives and actions of others. They provide the "health" rationale necessary for the government to increasingly take our money then restrict our behaviors and liberty. It sounds as though the youtube lady may be one of the control freaks.
 

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simple, self absorbed

You my friend hit the nail on the head.
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She smoked, then vaped. Since she didn't feel any better vaping, she concluded that vaping and smoking were the same thing.

Which is similar to some of the "science" applied recently, also indicating similar results. :facepalm:

 

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