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Most all fish are caught from waters we wouldn't drink without boiling. That's one of the reasons I'm leery about eating raw fish. Sushi isn't on my list of desirable dishes.

AFAIK, sushi is all saltwater fish.
 

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From polluted ocean waters! Not on my list unless cooked.

But cooking doesn't remove the heavy metals from them.

Remember, you're not just eating the fish. You're eating all the stuff that went through the gills and whatever the fish drank. And fish don't have access to a good scotch, so no joy on the drinking side either.

Me, I'm not a big fish person. Salmon on occasion. And shellfish, which really are bottom feeders but they do taste yummy.
 

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Gee Scott, what did you think a Year Long Campaign of FUD, Half Truths, Skewed Statistical Data, and at times Outright Lies, would do?

BTW - Who was the One who coined the phrase "Epidemic" when it came to Teens and e-Cigarettes?
 

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But cooking doesn't remove the heavy metals from them.

Remember, you're not just eating the fish. You're eating all the stuff that went through the gills and whatever the fish drank. And fish don't have access to a good scotch, so no joy on the drinking side either.

Me, I'm not a big fish person. Salmon on occasion. And shellfish, which really are bottom feeders but they do taste yummy.

The fish and sea mammals are full of plastic bits now. An autopsy on a beached whale found 88 pounds of plastic “stuff” in its stomach. We’re killing everything everywhere we go.

Stomach Of Dead Whale Contained 'Nothing But Nonstop Plastic'
 

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Where do you think we ship a lot of our plastic junk? Until recently we sold plastic for recycling to China. Now they have no use for our plastic trash. So most of that plastic probably started here in the US.

Where Will Your Plastic Trash Go Now That China Doesn't Want It?

To be fair that is only part of the cycle. It starts as oil that is shipped to the US from the Middle East. Then companies like DuPont turn it into plastic pellets and ship it to China to be made into stuff/containers/etc. China makes stuff with the plastic and sells it to US citizens. We recycle it and ship it back to china to be remade into something else and shipped back and repeat.
 

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Mostly true, but with the following clarifications:
To be fair that is only part of the cycle. It starts as oil that is shipped to the US from the Middle East. (Except we now produce over 60% more oil than we import- 11.7M bpd produced vs. 7.2M bpd imported) Then companies like DuPont turn it into plastic pellets and ship it to China to be made into stuff/containers/etc. China makes stuff with the plastic and sells it to US citizens. We recycle (a small percentage of) it and ship it back to china to be remade into something else (But it's cheaper/more profitable for them to just dump most of it instead of recycle, so that's what they do) and shipped back and repeat.
 

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Mostly true, but with the following clarifications:

Yes I was speaking in generalities. Oil is a very strange business. We consume more than we produce so we have to import some, yet we still also export some as well. It is impossible to tell exactly how much of what we produce is consumed here vs how much is exported. It is also possible we are exporting oil that we imported first.

The other weird bit is that ALL oil futures on the Commodities market are shares of West Texas Crude (when the news says oil prices went up, this is what they mean). Yet events in the Middle East and other parts of the world can affect the prices of these West Texas Crude futures despite the fact that these events do not impact the production or distribution of the underlying oil they represent. Add to that, West Texas is not the only source of US produced oil, and this oil isn't represented as futures at all.

It's like a giant shell game and we, the consumer, always lose.
 
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Where do you think we ship a lot of our plastic junk? Until recently we sold plastic for recycling to China. Now they have no use for our plastic trash. So most of that plastic probably started here in the US.

Where Will Your Plastic Trash Go Now That China Doesn't Want It?

It's unfortunate that some in the U.S. decided it was necessary to stop nearly all logging and along with it, forest maintenance, and instead go to plastic for nearly everything under the sun.
 

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It's unfortunate that some in the U.S. decided it was necessary to stop nearly all logging and along with it, forest maintenance, and instead go to plastic for nearly everything under the sun.

Forests are a renewable resource, but someone has to re-plant for that to happen. In the South it's Pine trees. I have a life long friend who recently retired from U.S. Forestry who talked about his early years riding on the back of a truck planting small pines. He liked it so much he went back to college and got his degree in Forestry.

Plastics could be a similar industry, but there's not so much pressure to separate the trash and recycle them.
 

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Forests are a renewable resource, but someone has to re-plant for that to happen. In the South it's Pine trees. I have a life long friend who recently retired from U.S. Forestry who talked about his early years riding on the back of a truck planting small pines. He liked it so much he went back to college and got his degree in Forestry.

Plastics could be a similar industry, but there's not so much pressure to separate the trash and recycle them.
Speaking of recycling, our city did away with ours at the end of March. I feel weird when I place my milk jugs and cardboard in the trash can. We are no longer given a 2nd can for recycling.
 

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