Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

[DaveP]

I graduated from the Joye 510 to the eGo and then jumped into the Provari V2 on my first anniversary vaping. I still have the Provari and it still looks and works like new after about 9 years vaping. The other day I ran across a box in the closet that contains the Provari and a dozen other mods and attys that I bought in my search for the ultimate vape. Those are my FDA insurance protection devices.

 

[newyork13]

"Measure twice, cut once."

Hi E, NY, Rossum, Bad, Bronze, hitt, Rose, CMD, and whomever else I neglected to ack.

I'm here less and less, but still here. Sort of. (I blame it on DPL.)

hope you're well Kat.

 

[Katdarling]

I am sweetie!!!! And definitely hoping the same for you, caro.

Hugs~

 

[rosesense]

Have any of you seen the 'look at youth vaping study'? I don't know if I can link it here since it says not to cite or distribute it as it is 'under review'.

Juul and nic salts is definitely the devil according to this study.

 

[MacTechVpr]

…If you try to compromise with ANTZ on taxes, online bans, indoor bans, c-store bans, etc. because a youth vaping "epidemic" is "erasing progress," you're compromising on a LIE. You've just ADMITTED GUILT to something that doesn't even exist and THEY WIN.

Hear, hear!

Good luck.

 

[WorksForMe]

Has everybody heard about this?

An Obscure Safety Rule Could Shut Down the Vaping Industry

"The Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) has quietly amended guidelines for e-liquid containers, and the changes could mean that millions of bottles of e-juice on vape shop shelves and in warehouses will be declared non-compliant and subject to recall or even destruction."

"The FDA Deeming Rule prohibits manufacturers from changing the packaging of a product (except labels) introduced before Aug. 8, 2016. Any alteration to the product — including new bottles — would make a deemed product non-compliant and subject to the requirement for an approved premarket tobacco application before it can be legally sold."

I seriously doubt the FDA would shut down all e-liquid sales because the manufacturers are forced to change the bottles, but anything is possible.

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[ScottP]

Has everybody heard about this?

An Obscure Safety Rule Could Shut Down the Vaping Industry

"The Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) has quietly amended guidelines for e-liquid containers, and the changes could mean that millions of bottles of e-juice on vape shop shelves and in warehouses will be declared non-compliant and subject to recall or even destruction."

"The FDA Deeming Rule prohibits manufacturers from changing the packaging of a product (except labels) introduced before Aug. 8, 2016. Any alteration to the product — including new bottles — would make a deemed product non-compliant and subject to the requirement for an approved premarket tobacco application before it can be legally sold."

I seriously doubt the FDA would shut down all e-liquid sales because the manufacturers are forced to change the bottles, but anything is possible.

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All I can say is the 2020 election is more important than ever. If we get a President that appoints a new FDA chairperson that wants to utterly destroy vaping, this will allow them to do it.

 

[WorksForMe]

All I can say is the 2020 election is more important than ever. If we get a President that appoints a new FDA chairperson that wants to utterly destroy vaping, this will allow them to do it.

While I agree that the next election is very important, the FDA didn't need this to destroy vaping. All they have to do is enforce the Deeming Regs as written.


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[cats5365]

If the news story is accurate, this might be a good time to get some nic base ordered for your freezer.

 

[Hoggy]

If the news story is accurate, this might be a good time to get some nic base ordered for your freezer.

This is what I'm wondering about as well.
I have 6 empty gallon jugs, just for the occasion that I may need to make some snap-buys of nic. (Already have ~3 liters in freezer at all times.)
I just hope there will be enough chatter about the vaping community (and that I NOTICE it) that I can get some before supply gets too thin.

I've heard for about 6 years, the phrase "might be a good time to get some more nic". So I'm at a loss as to how to tell when that time may really be here. There's been so much 'sky is falling', that I don't know if I know how to tell when the sky might actually be falling.

 

[cats5365]

This is what I'm wondering about as well.
I have 6 empty gallon jugs, just for the occasion that I may need to make some snap-buys of nic. (Already have ~3 liters in freezer at all times.)
I just hope there will be enough chatter about the vaping community (and that I NOTICE it) that I can get some before supply gets too thin.

I've heard for about 6 years, the phrase "might be a good time to get some more nic". So I'm at a loss as to how to tell when that time may really be here. There's been so much 'sky is falling', that I don't know if I know how to tell when the sky might actually be falling.

I bought my freezer stock in glass bottles so I wouldn't have to transfer it until I was ready to use it. If we get caught in the catch-22 mentioned in the story and the comments, it could make things difficult.

 

[Bronze]

While I agree that the next election is very important, the FDA didn't need this to destroy vaping. All they have to do is enforce the Deeming Regs as written.


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A very important point to remember. I for one do.

 

[Lowjumper]

This is what I'm wondering about as well.
I have 6 empty gallon jugs, just for the occasion that I may need to make some snap-buys of nic. (Already have ~3 liters in freezer at all times.)
I just hope there will be enough chatter about the vaping community (and that I NOTICE it) that I can get some before supply gets too thin.

I've heard for about 6 years, the phrase "might be a good time to get some more nic". So I'm at a loss as to how to tell when that time may really be here. There's been so much 'sky is falling', that I don't know if I know how to tell when the sky might actually be falling.

I have 3+ Gal in the freezer, oldest is from Feb 2010, all fine! Better to be safe,etc etc.

 

[Horselady154]

I bought my freezer stock in glass bottles so I wouldn't have to transfer it until I was ready to use it. If we get caught in the catch-22 mentioned in the story and the comments, it could make things difficult.

Where did you buy it where it came in glass bottles?

 

[Hoggy]

I have 3+ Gal in the freezer, oldest is from Feb 2010, all fine! Better to be safe,etc etc.

Due to a crazy-tiny apartment, I have absolutely no room for more of anything in a freezer.. But I can muster a bit of space in a closet. Hence why I don't want to get more sooner than would be necessary -- it would only be for full-fledged prohibition-style bootlegging. They're still amber glass with phenolic polycone caps, but they'll be unrefrigerated nonetheless.

 

[FlamingoTutu]

Has everybody heard about this?

An Obscure Safety Rule Could Shut Down the Vaping Industry

"The Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) has quietly amended guidelines for e-liquid containers, and the changes could mean that millions of bottles of e-juice on vape shop shelves and in warehouses will be declared non-compliant and subject to recall or even destruction."

"The FDA Deeming Rule prohibits manufacturers from changing the packaging of a product (except labels) introduced before Aug. 8, 2016. Any alteration to the product — including new bottles — would make a deemed product non-compliant and subject to the requirement for an approved premarket tobacco application before it can be legally sold."

I seriously doubt the FDA would shut down all e-liquid sales because the manufacturers are forced to change the bottles, but anything is possible.

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This never stops.

Where did you buy it where it came in glass bottles?

Nude Nicotine does and right now they're having a sale. Code is in this post. Are you done stocking up?

 

[rosesense]

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[somdcomputerguy]

Where did you buy it where it came in glass bottles?

MyFreedomSmokes does as well. One can get in glass or plastic.

 

[WorksForMe]

This never stops.

This is what happens when you have a huge number of bureaucrats whose job it is to make and enforce regulations. They have to justify their existence. The regulatory state has become a large sprawling, virtually unaccountable, “Fourth Branch of Government”.


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[Bronze]

This is what happens when you have a huge number of bureaucrats whose job it is to make and enforce regulations. They have to justify their existence. The regulatory state has become a large sprawling, virtually unaccountable, “Fourth Branch of Government”.


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Unelected bureaucrats I might add.