Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
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Inhaling PG yes data on that. But not on flavorings or VG. As far a health impact studies for inhaling them.We've known for the longest time the effects of substances like PG/VG and their benefits. I'm certain that the trace chem's in typical vaping expose me to not much different risk (perhaps less) than breathing ambient air. I DIY to ensure that's so and vape straight VG as often as not.
Medicine: Air Germicide - TIME
Good luck all.
I am not aware of VG being inhaled before vaping. Could be wrong though.
Some flavorings in some tobacco products. However that is smoked not vaped and I doubt if studies were done on the flavored cigs except for menthol.
Their way around the flavoring thing on cigs were that they called them little cigars...
Apparently cigarettes and cigars are regulated differently.
Smoked vanilla flavored little cigars for a while. They were cheap.
Not long term, but at least a short one. This study, published in 2011, I don't think is the one I read, but it's similar.
Non-clinical safety and pharmacokinetic evaluations of propylene glycol aerosol in Sprague-Dawley rats and Beagle dogs. - PubMed - NCBI
Aerosolized propylene glycol (PG) was generated as log-normally distributed particulate clouds in different concentrations using a novel capillary aerosol generator (CAG) and evaluated in a battery of non-clinical studies intended to assess its potential inhalation and systemic toxicity in 2 species before ICH-compliant "first-time-in-man" studies. Exposures were nose-only in rats, and via face mask with oropharyngeal tube in dogs.
Under the conditions of these studies, the NOEL for the rat was determined to be 20mg/kg/day for the 28-day study. In the Beagle dog, the NOEL was approximately 6.05mg/kg/day for the 28-day study. Overall, these studies allowed us to conclude that PG aerosol generated with the capillary aerosol generator could be administered safely in man, with an adequate margin of safety needed to conduct "first-time-in-man" human exposure studies.
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Not when used in manufactured juice since the health impacts of inhaling food flavorings are largely unknown.
Yep I corrected my oversight on the PG in a subsequent post.
It is after all used in FDA approved inhalers.
My comment stands on the rest of the ingredients in ejuice though.
Except maybe nic since it is also available in inhaler form I think.
Wont stop them from selling it though, they have no clue what the end use is, and their core business model is "food". The point being is that it will still be sold, even if the end user uses it illegally.
Hey, I actually (in all honesty) also use the stuff for making candy. My handmade truffles are to die for.
LOL, I hardly ever get out of those three forum plus my home on the smokeless area. Glad to see a few of the vast majority finally wondered over to see what's really happening beside new kits and tanks.
It will not be allowed to be sold by any vape oriented company. You will have to find new sources for your flavoring.
but yes PG/VG and "food" flavorings will still be available.
Nicotine I expect will be a much more difficult thing to get.
why I have stocked up on nic.
Even today I buy my flavorings elsewhere. I have no fear that I will be able to obtain them. I make artisanal candies.
VG has similar mechanical germicidal properties as VG I understand. Until trace studies of typical technically correct and actual appropriate use show material and generalized risk (I haven't seen it) I consider myself reasonable safe in my situation. And I'm an at risk user Rob. Those who deviate from an appropriate intended use is another matter. It's why the burden has been on retailers in reality to educate themselves and insistent on such development among their clients. Had we a broad representation of educated vapers proficient in the tech we might not be so exposed at this time. Check your 510 pin was never enough IMO. Now necessity will dictate it. E-cigarettes were never plug-and-play but experimental.
However, government has proven itself so adept at advancing the worst aspects of safety in those things they regulate I'd give the odds to the average vaper of improving upon this, even in the absence of vendor support.
Good luck all.
Little curious if this could be used for a pre 2007 acceptable device ?
Patent US3200819 - Smokeless non-tobacco cigarette
Patent US3200819 - Smokeless non-tobacco cigarette
Most though self included buy flavorings from vape oriented companies.
yep we have been enjoying the wide open "Wild West" days of vaping. That appears to be coming to an end.VG has similar mechanical germicidal properties as VG I understand. Until trace studies of typical technically correct and actual appropriate use show material and generalized risk (I haven't seen it) I consider myself reasonable safe in my situation. And I'm an at risk user Rob. Those who deviate from an appropriate intended use is another matter. It's why the burden has been on retailers in reality to educate themselves and insistent on such development among their clients. Had we a broad representation of educated vapers proficient in the tech we might not be so exposed at this time. Check your 510 pin was never enough IMO. Now necessity will dictate it. E-cigarettes were never plug-and-play but experimental.
However, government has proven itself so adept at advancing the worst aspects of safety in those things they regulate I'd give the odds to the average vaper of improving upon this, even in the absence of vendor support.
Good luck all.
I personally am not concerned about the safety aspect of vaping flavorings and such since I did not start vaping for reasons of health. But for cost savings and a wife that wanted me to try vaping instead of smoking.
I found it worked for me and I enjoy both the act of vaping and the hobby aspect.
Vaping had for sure improved my health in the short term. For the long term? I dunno but think it is much safer long term than smoking.
It saddens me that those who want to vape for the reduced harm reason may not be able to in a few years.
For myself I am stocked up on everything I need for the rest of my life except for maybe some flavorings and PG/VG and maybe some cotton.
Amazon could probably rule the flavor market. They sell Capella's under "Baking Extracts and Flavoring". I strongly believe that flavoring is the least of our worries except for certain ones...like my personal favorites...Hangsen Tobaccos...ugh
Saw this scrolling on the bottom of the screen watching the news this morning....."study shows that e-cigarettes poison 200+ children under 6 each month..." New, I'm sure that Careless Parents have their kids get into many things they shouldn't on a daily basis. This is probably just the beginning of hit pieces brought to you by BT and BP.
Wow, that was filed in 1963
Yeah, but it was never on the market.
What "study?"
I can't post a link due to John Oliver's occasional colorful language, but it's a good retort about "studies." (On youtube) Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Scientific Studies
There's nicotine in the Nicotrol Inhaler.
I can't wait for the FDA to require a specific way for us to use newly deemed tobacco products. (Light entertainment alert!)
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