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Article that gives a little insight into Trump's position on vaping.

In Oval Office Meeting, Trump Expresses Regret on Vaping Policy

Interesting. But there really is no line at all between news and editorials anymore is there?
This is unbiased news, eh?
"The conversation was typical of Mr. Trump’s approach to negative reactions to his policies or statements — never accept blame, and fault advisers."

I don't trust or believe a thing that comes out of the NYTs.
 

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Here is an Article on the same events,

Trump berates Azar over bad health care polling

Notice the Softer Tone on everything.

Perhaps the Source of the Article plays a Role in the Tone of the Events?

I assume someone in the room must have leaked some version of what happened. Then whoever got the leak arranged that information to align with their own opinion of Trump. Those two articles seem to have been written by people who don't like Trump much.

I think it's fair to conclude that Trump is conflicted about the ban and is being pulled in different directions by the people around him. Also fair to conclude that without him in the mix it would have turned out much worse.
 

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I assume someone in the room must have leaked some version of what happened. Then whoever got the leak arranged that information to align with their own opinion of Trump. Those two articles seem to have been written by people who don't like Trump much.

I think it's fair to conclude that Trump is conflicted about the ban and is being pulled in different directions by the people around him. Also fair to conclude that without him in the mix it would have turned out much worse.
I said long ago that Azar was worthless and a detriment to the administration. Trump has always had a hair trigger with cabinet members who don't live up to his expectations so I'm surprised he's put up with Azar this long. Wouldn't be surprised if he axes him soon.
 

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I assume someone in the room must have leaked some version of what happened. Then whoever got the leak arranged that information to align with their own opinion of Trump. Those two articles seem to have been written by people who don't like Trump much.

I think it's fair to conclude that Trump is conflicted about the ban and is being pulled in different directions by the people around him. Also fair to conclude that without him in the mix it would have turned out much worse.

To Me, it is that Blurring line between what someone say's the Heard, or say they Know, or says they Know someone who say's they know, and then what a Person writing an Article say's someone said they Heard. Or writing about what they think is going on Based on what someone else says they think they know is Going On.

Drawing a Conclusion using Any of this is Very Difficult. But that is what these Articles are doing. Presenting a Conclusion.

I have No Doubt that Trump isn't happy about this Entire e-Cigarette thing. Because it is something He Didn't Start. And No Matter which way you go, there is going to be a Bunch of People who are Mad and say you are Wrong.

As to Actual Specifics? I'll leave that to the Soothsayers in the Media who's role is to Bend Public Opinion.
 

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To Me, it is that Blurring line between what someone say's the Heard, or say they Know, or says they Know someone who say's they know, and then what a Person writing an Article say's someone said they Heard. Or writing about what they think is going on Based on what someone else says they think they know is Going On.

Drawing a Conclusion using Any of this is Very Difficult. But that is what these Articles are doing. Presenting a Conclusion.

I have No Doubt that Trump isn't happy about this Entire e-Cigarette thing. Because it is something He Didn't Start. And No Matter which way you go, there is going to be a Bunch of People who are Mad and say you are Wrong.

As to Actual Specifics? I'll leave that to the Soothsayers in the Media who's role is to Bend Public Opinion.
Perfectly stated front to end.
 

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I assume someone in the room must have leaked some version of what happened. Then whoever got the leak arranged that information to align with their own opinion of Trump. Those two articles seem to have been written by people who don't like Trump much.

I think it's fair to conclude that Trump is conflicted about the ban and is being pulled in different directions by the people around him. Also fair to conclude that without him in the mix it would have turned out much worse.
With you being from Indiana what is the real story on butedgeedge?
 

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To Me, it is that Blurring line between what someone say's the Heard, or say they Know, or says they Know someone who say's they know, and then what a Person writing an Article say's someone said they Heard. Or writing about what they think is going on Based on what someone else says they think they know is Going On.

Drawing a Conclusion using Any of this is Very Difficult. But that is what these Articles are doing. Presenting a Conclusion.

I have No Doubt that Trump isn't happy about this Entire e-Cigarette thing. Because it is something He Didn't Start. And No Matter which way you go, there is going to be a Bunch of People who are Mad and say you are Wrong.

As to Actual Specifics? I'll leave that to the Soothsayers in the Media who's role is to Bend Public Opinion.

Perfectly stated front to end.
Nothing irritates me more than presidents kicking the can down the road. And every one of them has done it. That's not what I want in a president. Have the balls to address the issues based on something (right, wrong, public sentiment, voter preference, something) but don't just kick it to the next guy. That's the worst choice! I will credit Trump for being the most fearless to attack issues than any president I can recall. I can tolerate being ...... at a prez for making a decision I don't agree with better than I can tolerate punting it down the road only for the problem to grow.

"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"
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Nothing irritates me more than presidents kicking the can down the road. And every one of them has done it. That's not what I want in a president. Have the balls to address the issues based on something (right, wrong, public sentiment, voter preference, something) but don't just kick it to the next guy. That's the worst choice! I will credit Trump for being the most fearless to attack issues than any president I can recall. I can tolerate being ...... at a prez for making a decision I don't agree with better than I can tolerate punting it down the road only for the problem to grow.

"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"
-Neil Peart (from Freewill) RIP

"Th' abuse of greatness is when it disjoins remorse from power."

Julius Cesar, Act 2 Scene 1, Shakespeare
 

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hey haven’t been able to slow international “prescriptions” from getting through in all the years they’ve been trying.

But they are only sort of trying. If you import medications for personal use and it's less than a 3 month supply, they will just turn it back and send you a letter saying "We turned back your shipment and we would love it if you did not do that, but like, really, we can't stop you or penalize you."

Huge crates of illegal drugs? I guess this would be a different story.

As long as it's not scheduled, it's not a big deal. I imported Stablon for several years because it was what worked best at the time. It's a small enough drug market that (unless you were crazy enough to buy generic which I was NOT) well I also imported it for some family members having a hard time. . It's not FDA approved but it works better than any SSRI (for me) than I have come across.

I won't be importing any vape gear until after I know the situation though, that is for sure.

I was extremely sweaty and worried with my ONE purchase of something rather illegal. It so worked, it was so worth it, but I don't think I care to feel that way again quite yet. I knew of the sucker got opened, I would not be getting any polite letter about it being "something we would prefer you did not do."

Anna
 

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I decided to NEVER marry again...and instead...every 5 years...just find a woman I really hate...and give her everything I have...

I can be that woman for you. You know, if you are looking. :lol:

Yeah Anna...but...but...but...from reading your Comments...I think you'd be a woman that I'd really like/enjoy...so you wouldn't meet the "hate" requirement..:shock:.

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I got married...then divorced 5 years later...then married again...then got divorced 5 years later...

That's when I changed my "Life Plan"...

I decided to NEVER marry again...and instead...every 5 years...just find a woman I really hate...and give her everything I have...:shock:

(Same results...no lawyer costs.)

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I found your mistake.You're doing it wrong. You're only suppose to give them half of everything you have. LOL!
 

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