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Whatever you do, and say if they just flat out ban vaping altogether in the future, don't go back to smoking. If you do, they win, if not, the vapers still win. Just quit both and suffer just to make a point and get all vapers to do the same :)
If they ban vaping altogether, well.... See my sig.
 

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I'm not a good Christian then. I mean, I've known it for awhile…. But it's sometimes good to have it confirmed by outside sources.

I will be vaping on, regardless. I see no NEED to suffer so I have planned accordingly.

The advice about not returning to cigarettes is good, I just know I would be unable to handle the suffering, LOL, so I most assuredly would smoke. That would be unpleasant

I personally thought Mel Gibson's movie was almost pornographic in like, it's depiction of Jesus dragging the cross and stuff (would also have rather been WATCHING porn which I'm not even really that into.)

My husband, the good Christian thought it was not graphic enough.

I don't get all the suffering stuff, but I'm an epicurean. LOL..
Anna
Course I JUST called in sick today,. I did it in a timely fashion. It's been like 6 or 7 weeks of straight working and I don't feel well so why suffer?
 

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I will be vaping on, regardless. I see no NEED to suffer so I have planned accordingly.

I "choose" not to give up vaping. And the choice is (and always will be) mine. Rossum's signature definitely applies.

My own personal metric is "does it cause HARM to someone else", if the answer is NO then I feel no remorse in pursuing my bliss.
 

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Yeah I don't get the whole "choosing to suffer."

Well, I did complete not one, but two 7 day water fasts in my 20s. To be fair, I should probably admit that. I also paid for the privilege.

To be fair, some of it was kind of fun, and we had to report our dreams every morning (it was this get together bunch of weirdos type deal) and I will never, ever forget the dream I had when delicious red//gold Doritos were currency,... That was a great dream.. The group suffered quite a bit from Dorito cravings that day.

I will admit I probably wouldn't do something like that NOW, but yeah, pretty much I do what I like. Well, sorta. There is this whole work/house thing that is sucking. Sigh..

But it won't be lack of vaping that takes me OUT!!

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I got this from NN this morning. Stuff about FDA compliance and PMTA's in progress. Surprised me a bit.


Nude Nicotine's Premier Line of Nicotine Salt eLiquid, Pi, is having an "eLiquidation" sale (puns intended)! Pi eLiquids are Nude Nicotine's fully-compliant line of eliquids with the FDA's 21 CFR Part 1100 - AKA PMTA, which means we have to adhere to some specific deadline requirements. Pi eLiquids' FDA Compliance regimen requires that we cycle product labels that are updated on a biannual basis and this is a special moment - Pi eLiquid Labels are final and submitted to the FDA! Nude is excited to update all retailers of Pi eLiquid's compliance with the August 8th, 2016 ruling, as well as the recent January 6th, 2020 ruling. This means that our product labels produced before our final submission need to go... AKA Liquidation! We are printing our final product designs which go into effect in February :) Take a look at the photos posted on this email and our website. We are very excited for our retailers and the public to be able to be assured that Pi eLiquids are fully-compliant with FDA rulings and able to be purchased while our PMTAs (for multiple products) are being evaluated for FDA-approval!
 

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I got this from NN this morning. Stuff about FDA compliance and PMTA's in progress. Surprised me a bit.


Nude Nicotine's Premier Line of Nicotine Salt eLiquid, Pi, is having an "eLiquidation" sale (puns intended)! Pi eLiquids are Nude Nicotine's fully-compliant line of eliquids with the FDA's 21 CFR Part 1100 - AKA PMTA, which means we have to adhere to some specific deadline requirements. Pi eLiquids' FDA Compliance regimen requires that we cycle product labels that are updated on a biannual basis and this is a special moment - Pi eLiquid Labels are final and submitted to the FDA! Nude is excited to update all retailers of Pi eLiquid's compliance with the August 8th, 2016 ruling, as well as the recent January 6th, 2020 ruling. This means that our product labels produced before our final submission need to go... AKA Liquidation! We are printing our final product designs which go into effect in February :) Take a look at the photos posted on this email and our website. We are very excited for our retailers and the public to be able to be assured that Pi eLiquids are fully-compliant with FDA rulings and able to be purchased while our PMTAs (for multiple products) are being evaluated for FDA-approval!
Now if a device can get through there might be something to put it in.
 

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I wonder if NN have put in a PMTA for their bulk nicotine? They could be moving over to becoming a juice seller and getting away from the nic and flavoring business. I wish I knew what they know.
Well, the fact that they've opened up a CBD section makes me wonder how confident they are that they'll have any so-called "tobacco product" approved.
 

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I posted this in another thread the other day...
Thought it was...interesting...

This is what a giant pile of impeachment candy looks like


And THIS was in the news today !
Mitt Romney violated Senate rules by drinking chocolate milk out of a bottle during the impeachment trial

"Romney has been known to enjoy chocolate milk. His wife, Ann Romney, revealed that the drink is his "guilty pleasure" in a 2012 interview, and the then-presidential candidate was photographed sipping chocolate milk on his campaign bus."
 

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    There is nothing like the taste of ONE cigarette after not smoking a while. The problem is, that ONE starts killing your taste buds almost immediately, like, no one's business.

    I've often wondered (but never tried) about smoking even just one puff off a cigarette since I switch to vaping. But being how I can't take the smell of it anymore, I doubt I would like it. In fact, TBH, I never really liked it. It was all about the habit for me. I think that's why switching to vaping, for me, wasn't the chore that it seems to be with other smokers.
     

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    I've often wondered (but never tried) about smoking even just one puff off a cigarette since I switch to vaping. But being how I can't take the smell of it anymore, I doubt I would like it. In fact, TBH, I never really liked it. It was all about the habit for me. I think that's why switching to vaping, for me, wasn't the chore that it seems to be with other smokers.
    I switched to e-cigs 12 years ago, but to this day the smell of a fresh burning cigarette smells good to me. What I hate is the smell of it on people, the smell in cars, etc.. the dirty ashtray smell (all of those smells you never noticed when you used to smoke) is just repulsive to me.
     

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    At least the feds are finally making noises like they will be reasonable on PMTA for small businesses. Recent article, "Azar Promises Streamlined PMTA Approval for Small Vape Businesses", sounds good. Now we just have to see if they follow through! Got the link from Paradigm Vape News, Paradigm Vape News - Complete and current vape news, articles, videos, Call to Action for state advocacy, reviewers and more..
    Yeah, that was posted here a week ago, but it only made me feel warm and fuzzy inside for about a minute. There is no information about what "Streamlined" means to them and the whole thing was too vague.
     

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