The costs of running this huge site are paid for by ads. Please consider registering and becoming a Supporting Member for an ad-free experience. Thanks, ECF team.

Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

Discussion in 'General Vaping Discussion' started by Oliver, May 5, 2016.

Image has been removed.
URL has been removed.
Email address has been removed.
Media has been removed.
  1. Marina2

    Marina2 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 27, 2015
    USA
    Yes, the FDA quote I linked gives roughly three years for a product before enforcement.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  2. flavor911

    flavor911 Registered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 20, 2011
    PA USA
    Well unless I've scanned this BOOK of a reg incorrectly the summary is this:

    90 days for sellers to implement age verification. Online sellers can use what the online cigar sellers have used for years as long as it requires photo ID. I would suspect many will go with Photo ID required shipping which may increase shipping rates for some vapers.

    2 years to submit your products to the FDA for approval at 1mil per product. That's never going to happen except for the Tobacco and Pharma companies.

    2 years from today the only vaping products you will see are from Big T and Big P. Everyone else will be gone.

    Think I have that right but if I missed something please let me know. Sad day but at least we have two years. Maybe someone can kill it during that period.
     
    • Like Like x 15
  3. Katmar

    Katmar Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Sep 19, 2009
    Pittsburgh, Pa
    • Like Like x 8
  4. postembr2

    postembr2 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 20, 2013
    Sao Paulo Brazil
    What happen in us is the same as here in Brazil our local FDA counterpart banned all ecigs on 2009 nut since that we just have a overpriced black market.
    The issue on us is dangerous because of the domino effect that will happen over Europe and worldwide. Everyone except China will put vaping in a black market.
    This will not deny us the use I have to deal montly with people that do me a great favor importing the goods but this at least in Brazil made the establish of a regular market impossible. At least in us with a big market already present the fight will be much more effective. Here they seized the market before even it could exist.
     
    • Like Like x 10
  5. classwife

    classwife Admin
    Asst Classifieds Mgr
    Ask The Vets Mgr
    Admin Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    I can't even formulate the words for my ire.

    Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 55, Guests: 67)


    editing :
    Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 58, Guests: 69)

    Thread is growing...

     
    • Like Like x 22
  6. Katmar

    Katmar Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Sep 19, 2009
    Pittsburgh, Pa
    I've seen some folks saying that if manufacturers like FastTech, etc, apply, other smaller businesses will be covered if they use the same products.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  7. flavor911

    flavor911 Registered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 20, 2011
    PA USA
    Three years for enforcement but if you don't have your products submitted in two years along with your 1mil payment and they show up at your door....yer screwed.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  8. postembr2

    postembr2 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 20, 2013
    Sao Paulo Brazil
    Yea but they will not place 1 million per product that would be over a billion for 1000 products.
    The absurd price is just a way to kill the market plain simple

    Ver
     
    • Like Like x 10
  9. GutWrench

    GutWrench Full Member Verified Member

    Apr 27, 2015
    This just means they will tax the @&$! out of it now. Prices will sky rocket as juice companies will panic and start gouging the consumer. Small companies will start going belly up immediately.

    This is sad times for us all. :(
     
    • Like Like x 5
  10. Oliver

    Oliver ECF Founder, formerly SmokeyJoe Admin Verified Member

    I've signed off for an hour or so - "The Lobbyist" will be blogging in the meantime....
     
    • Like Like x 14
  11. Marina2

    Marina2 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 27, 2015
    USA
    That would be great but is FastTech a manufacturer?
     
    • Like Like x 2
  12. Katmar

    Katmar Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Sep 19, 2009
    Pittsburgh, Pa
    Take a break. You've earned it. Thank you, Joe, for keeping us informed and for fighting so hard for all of us. I hope we will ALL continue to fight.
     
    • Like Like x 7
  13. Katmar

    Katmar Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Sep 19, 2009
    Pittsburgh, Pa
    Well, I'm not sure. I just couldn't think of anyone else..lol. Maybe JoyTech?
     
  14. Marina2

    Marina2 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 27, 2015
    USA
    Thank you for all the work on this. You've had me on the edge of my seat all morning. :)
     
    • Like Like x 2
  15. Wingsfan0310

    Wingsfan0310 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 2, 2013
    Flat Rock, MI, USA
    The FDA protecting us from Tobacco is a joke. Last I checked you can buy a pack of smokes. The FDA is protecting BT, BP, and BG so tax revenue doesn't go down. This stuff is really out of hand. They couldn't care less about the average person. Who do they think they are fooling.
     
    • Like Like x 23
  16. Marina2

    Marina2 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 27, 2015
    USA
    I'd think Joyetech would be a contender in all this. That's if they aren't bought out by tobacco industries. :D
     
    • Like Like x 2
  17. MacTechVpr

    MacTechVpr Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Aug 24, 2013
    Hollywood (Beach), FL
    The Public. Good luck. :)
     
    • Like Like x 3
  18. Marina2

    Marina2 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 27, 2015
    USA
    The bad part is they are fooling a lot of seemingly intelligent people. Hard to believe.
     
    • Like Like x 9
  19. Robino1

    Robino1 Resting in Peace ECF Veteran

    This is so bad.
     
    • Like Like x 12
  20. evan le'garde

    evan le'garde Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Apr 3, 2013
    The thing i'm concerned about is D.I.Y. If these or any future regulations affect D.I.Y then i'll start worrying. No one can deny the massive profit margins gained from pre made e liquids. I think the government have noticed this too. Those companies who have been making and selling e liquids from the start, i'm pretty sure they'll easily be able to afford any fees payable to the government. All the little guys will most certainly go out of business though.

    Can e liquid manufacturers justify their prices ?.
    Are these guys to blame for e liquid regulations ?.

    I've read time and time again that this whole regulation thing is about money and not the public health.

    So you have to ask yourself why is this happening because it doesn't seem to make any sense, not from the public health point of view.

    I think the government wants a piece of the action !.
     
    • Like Like x 3

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice