Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

[skoony]

Ok. I can understand the tax issue. But they have outright banned free ejuice. I mean what if the store wants to pay the taxes on it then they still can't do it. They could pay the taxes on each bottle they have to sample. It is still hypocrisy. Right?

I would assume they could. After all its a tobacco product. There's no such thing as a free car.
Applicable taxes and registrations have to be paid. The laws vary from state to state.
I believe here anything under a certain dollar amount is exempt except things like alcohol,
tobacco,anything that has additional taxes other than sales tax.
I should note this applies to stuff given for free not,won in a contest.
Mike

 

[englishmick]

The all purpose ones aren't, but I'm guessing the ones made for vaping devices might be considered tobacco products by FDA deeming. Then, again, there's intended use.

Damn. I never even thought about ohm meters. I guess having 510 connections gives them away.

I guess we still have multimeters but they are less convenient to use.

 

[bigdancehawk]

Yeah, those are the "fancy" stores. I shop at the places where you bag your own groceries. Occasionally hit trader joes, if I want something in particular.

In deeming news, I wonder if an ohm meter will be considered a tobacco product component? The device itself has no effect on the tobacco product, but it really has no other use than to be used with a tobacco product.

My regular grocery store offers free wine and beer samples all the time. My neighborhood liquor store has free wine tastings every Friday. So does a nearby CVS. Where is the great public outcry against this shameful promotion of alcoholism?
ETA: think of the children! They are in these stores all the time. These impressionable kids are observing the open and public consumption of alcohol products, many in flavors that are highly appealing to them.

 

[drum747]

Not sure if posted, short and sweet
EDITORIAL: Stifling a public-health victory

 

[frizzy_tyger]

My regular grocery store offers free wine and beer samples all the time. My neighborhood liquor store has free wine tastings every Friday. So does a nearby CVS. Where is the great public outcry against this shameful promotion of alcoholism?
ETA: think of the children! They are in these stores all the time. These impressionable kids are observing the open and public consumption of alcohol products, many in flavors that are highly appealing to them.

I think the alcohol sampling comes down to state laws. I know here in NC one has to have a license to serve alcohol on the premises, including free samples. There's also a separate one for wine/beer than there is liquor.

That being said I work in a store that has free samples of wine and there has been several times someone who wasnt looking to buy wine will sample it and then buy it, so I think most stores are doing it to up there sales.

I bet very people who goes into a vape shop go in without the intention to buy juice, try it and then decide to. I think most people try it in that case simply because they want to buy it in the first place.

 

[OcalaFlGuy]

There's no such thing as a free car.
Applicable taxes and registrations have to be paid. The laws vary from state to state.

Mike

Only your last sentence is a factual statement.

There Are states (Virginia for one) that recognize that a motor vehicle will Only be used on Private Property, ie; a farm and thusly Does Not have to pay for a license plate. Any you Know that owner Sometimes takes it on road even when he technically shouldn't.

Bruce in Ocala, Fl

 

[wiredlove]

We used to refer to that as 'snack in the box'.

Sorry, back on topic. Have been reading all this linked material. Interesting.

We call it dog chocolate.

 

[leftyandsparky]

 

[MyMagicMist]

Only your last sentence is a factual statement.

There Are states (Virginia for one) that recognize that a motor vehicle will Only be used on Private Property, ie; a farm and thusly Does Not have to pay for a license plate. Virgina law actually allows the farmer to drive the unregistered car all over the place on public roads. (If he smiles real big and says, "But occifer, I'm on farm related business.")

Bruce in Ocala, Fl

If I recall properly, the "Farm Use" stipulation grants only 50 miles radius between two tracts of land owned by the farm in question. You don't need a registered motor vehicle to do that. Police can and do cite these drivers if they're outside the radius, which does happen at times. The only plate they need is one painted reading FARM USE. Yes, they need the Farm Use plate, too.

 

[VNeil]

What is the stated objective of banning free juice? I must have missed it. Anyway, vape shops could simply have a jar labelled "deposit a penny before sampling juice."

Stated objective: save the Kidz. No further explanation necessary

The real reason: FDA knows that B&M's perform an important service by helping new vapers find a flavor that works to help them quit. In keeping with the theme... The 2016 Keep America Smoking Act ... we can't have that, can we?

 

[Pamawoman]

This made me so mad I am literally shaking and my ears are burning from my blood pressure going up. These are the types of shows that just outright ignore science completely and then just lie whenever convenient. I couldn't comment on the video for some reason the comments wouldn't work but I def disliked it. We need to go and dislike this video. Such BS

 

[VNeil]

This made me so mad I am literally shaking and my ears are burning from my blood pressure going up. These are the types of shows that just outright ignore science completely and then just lie whenever convenient. I couldn't comment on the video for some reason the comments wouldn't work but I def disliked it. We need to go and dislike this video. Such BS

I said it before.... the media is our worst enemy

 

[OcalaFlGuy]

If I recall properly, the "Farm Use" stipulation grants only 50 miles radius between two tracts of land owned by the farm in question. You don't need a registered motor vehicle to do that. Police can and do cite these drivers if they're outside the radius, which does happen at times. The only plate they need is one painted reading FARM USE. Yes, they need the Farm Use plate, too.

You Don't recall properly.

Yes there is a 50 mile rule, but he can basically drive anytime, anywhere he wants with no Paid registration as long as he is "on farm business".

Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles
Bruce in Ocala, Fl

 

[skoony]

Only your last sentence is a factual statement.

There Are states (Virginia for one) that recognize that a motor vehicle will Only be used on Private Property, ie; a farm and thusly Does Not have to pay for a license plate. Virgina law actually allows the farmer to drive the unregistered car all over the place on public roads. (If he smiles real big and says, "But occifer, I'm on farm related business.")

Bruce in Ocala, Fl

Right. Like I said laws vary from state to state. I know farmers here do not have to
have license plates on farm designated vehicles. They may have further exemptions.
I am sure though if someone gives them a brand new tractor there may be taxes involved.
Most certainly if they win one.
Mike

 

[Lessifer]

Right. Like I said laws vary from state to state. I know farmers here do not have to
have license plates on farm designated vehicles. They may have further exemptions.
I am sure though if someone gives them a brand new tractor there may be taxes involved.
Most certainly if they win one.
Mike

Apparently we're being really nitpicky in this thread, so you probably should have said applicable taxes and/or registration must be paid. It's still not free, the tax man needs his money, and in most, if not all, cases the title also needs to be paid.

 

[crxess]

Getting the word out!!!
Posted to CFTFK:

Electronic Cigarette Age Restrictions May Drive Teens to Traditional Cigarettes

The Vaping Truth About the CDC's Teen Tobacco Survey

Along with My as well as Our Own Oliver Kershaw posting:

Oliver Kershaw Two important questions that CTFK refuse address or to acknowledge: 1. What proportion of youths use nicotine in their e-cigarettes (NIDA research suggests vast majority do not). 2. Does the existence/prevalence of e-cigarettes have a causal link to the decline of smoking in youth? The correlation between the increase in e-cigarettes (both in youth and adults) and the decrease in smoking in smoking in youths is perfect. In other words, are e-cigarettes "disruptively denormalising" smoking, or interrupting cigarette initiation? Supplementary question - these are empirical questions that should be addressed honestly and with high scientific standards: why does CTFK refuse to engage in this manner?

Getting the Word out Getting the word out

 

[drum747]

I assume part 1 is on the website as well but I'm running today....Good stuff
Slovenia: Ecig benefits presented to authorities, professionals and public (Part. II)

 

[Max-83]

I've heard the Vuse is high in nic too.

If I remember correctly the Vuse I bought last November was 4.8%

 

[KODIAK (TM)]

If I remember correctly the Vuse I bought last November was 4.8%

Actually, that sounds about right to me.

A big complaint folks make when transitioning from the real thing is their cravings aren't curbed by 12 and 18mg doses. They expect their lungs and mouth tissue to absorb the vapor molecules as fast as tar laced smokes. That ain't gonna' happen.

I tell everyone to start at 24 or even 36mg nic (if they can find it) and to expect to vape 3-4 more times than they would a conventional cigarette. This at least puts it into perspective for them before they deem e-cigs a failure and subsequently relapse. That's their baseline and they can decrease as time goes on.

I myself started with Blu and literally sucked my face into a permanent "pucker" trying to get those things to satisfy me.

 

[ericbnc]

I get the quit smoking site too, guess my taxes bought me that recently since vaping is smoking and I need their help.