Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

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I never dreamed I would see the industry revolve back to where i started with those stupid, expensive pre-filled cartos.
Knew it would happen as soon as I found out that the FDA was coming down with the regulations. That's when I got into building, mechs, DiY juice and started stockpiling.

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Well this is interesting, It appears the FDA funded research study re low nicotine cigs that are in the approval process. So how can they basically ban vaping which can reduce or eliminate nicotine altogether, if chosen. This is an excerpt from that trial:

Conclusions
In this 6-week study, reduced-nicotine cigarettes versus standard-nicotine cigarettes reduced nicotine exposure and dependence and the number of cigarettes smoked. (Funded by the National Institute on Drug Abuse and the Food and Drug Administration Center for tobacco Products; ClinicalTrials.gov number, NCT01681875.)

New ‘low-nicotine’ cigarette could help smokers kick habit

I just skimmed the abstract but it sounds like they're touting a reduction in cigarettes smoked from 20/day to 15/day as some huge success, because there's less exposure to nicotine...

Of course, when a new vaper goes from a PAD down to 5/day, they're just a dual user.

The game is rigged, the house always wins.
 

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Of course, when a new vaper goes from a PAD down to 5/day, they're just a dual user.

The game is rigged, the house always wins.

Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

"I think they do realize this - but it is a perfect "argument" for them, because it will always be true until that 'adult smoking population rate' goes from 15.1% to zero. There will always be smokers/dual users in 'transition' to which they can point, without giving the reason why."
 

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Damn... After reading that pdf about HEPA-HVAC Systems, Pedestrian Airlocks, and Non-Biological Pharma-Grade Product Process, I'm starting to get a little Self Conscious about the Cat Hair I found in my Tank Yesterday. But haven't gotten around to Removing.

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So vaping some Cat-a-tonic ejuice?
 

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Sad, don't even remember what I posted:oops:

Getting old is getting interesting.:blink:

Has ANYone picked up on contacting Vendors in their State to post to the Senate Floor - Twitter ???o_O

I have gotten 40 Responses in 24 hrs. - Thank you's. At least they are reading the messages. (Maryland/Random Senators/online Vendors w/twitter accounts):thumb:

carry on :oops:
 

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History of regulations that lead us to this point with the current vaping regulations. Totally off-topic.
Pretty sure everything from a-z was in there, but maybe I missed the mark.

On Topic:
The Facts on the FDA's New Tobacco Rule

Read up on a History that Should Have kept Tobacco under Agriculture's Authority.
It is a PLANT, Grows in the ground, in America and provides - Farm income/Consumer Product.

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Smoking IS becoming socially unacceptable, but banning people from smoking outright is just nutty. Making the legal age 21 seems more realistic IMO but I'm not sure that would actually stop many teenagers from trying smoking.
I've been a fan of many of your posts, so I hate to do this, but I have to.

You previously made a post about paying taxes being okay...
Now it seems you're okay with a 21 age limit...

I hope not, but if so...

I'm sorry, but this is exactly the problem.
I'm sure most reading this understand the problem, I wish you would.

Again, sorry, but it MUST be said.
 

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