Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
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I have not been convinced that e-liquid ingredients last more than a couple/few years no matter how they are stored.
By your picture, I thought you were older?Born in Detroit in 1959. Moved to Illinois in 1960. Both my P's were born and raised in Illinois (Dad Chicago, Mom Elmhurst). They moved to MI for a couple years and that's when I was born (Detroit) and then they moved back to IL. As bad as IL is, they aren't as bad as Detroit. But they're getting there.
If you think FDA has gone to all this trouble in order to just ignore its new regs you truly live in a fantasy world.
Born in Detroit in 1959. Moved to Illinois in 1960. Both my P's were born and raised in Illinois (Dad Chicago, Mom Elmhurst). They moved to MI for a couple years and that's when I was born (Detroit) and then they moved back to IL. As bad as IL is, they aren't as bad as Detroit. But they're getting there.
My DH's father was born and raised in Detroit, and then moved to a suburb. DH's parents are still in MI, not near Detroit though.
Detroit is sad, but I think there are many working on trying to bring it back.
Understood. I have to go by Kurt's yearly testing - going on 7 years now without any decreasing nic level or other stuff - oxidation, etc. as long as it's stored correctly.
Then so be it. I'm not going to rip my hair out worrying about it.
There is one ray of light that few talk about. This is in the UK where it appears the powers that be are embracing the health benefits of vaping (to an extent). In the years to come if we see their cigarette related health issues decline at levels we all believe they will as a result of vaping then it is going to be too hard for other governments to ignore.
I suspect that more than a FEW, maybe only needed nic and a lil wire.I think you already have a lifetime supply of attys, perhaps I am mistaken.
Course everyone's definition of "prepared" may be a little different.
Being unconvinced is not the same as disbelieving. I would need a lot more evidence than one chemist. And that in no way is a knock on Kurt. Quite the contrary...I'm glad he has done what he has done so far.
Only if we are given a choice. There are NO kids in my house!!! I actually had to take a knife and cut the child proof caps off of the last 2 liters of nicotine I bought. I was terrified that I was going to either cut myself of end up spilling a liter of 100mg/ml all over the place. It is great that everyone wants to protect the kiddos but how about a little consideration for the senior citizens too.
But I totally agree with this assessment.
LOL. I have enough hardware or can easily acquire enough to last a lifetime. Hardware never concerned me. E-liquid has though...for two reasons.I think you already have a lifetime supply of attys, perhaps I am mistaken.
1) I am as finicky as it gets. I've sampled hundreds of flavors but have only two I find as acceptable every day vapes. I have zero confidence I could DIY a flavor I like. I'd go back to smoking before that happened. I know me.
2) I'm not counting on being able to stock enough e-liquid (or its components) to last me the rest of my lifetime...God willing.
I'd run out sooner or later. Likely much sooner.
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Sounds suspiciously like the "we just don't know enough" argument. And of course there are many here reporting 5 years or more successful storage but I don't want to confuse the discussion with more facts or evidence. You are free to believe what you want although I doubt you will convince many here of your belief
I think a little of that has to do with the fact that the govt. there covers health care, so they have a vested interest in helping people get/stay healthy...hence, actually having unbiased studies so they can base decisions on scientific findings.
Here, sick people just feed the herd.
Absent a court injunction against the deeming, after August the -state excise tax- floodgates will be raised to open river. We'll see how long it takes before the feeding frenzy reaches a fevered pitch.
Ohh yes if that happens we will for sure have cigalikes and prefilled cartridges.
Not pulling my hair out either. I have just stocked up for the rest of my life in case I choose to keep on vaping till I die.
Don't care. I'm not here to convince anyone else of my beliefs. I have better things to do with my time. I learned a long time ago that in the whole scheme of things I'm about as important as a mole on an elephantass and have no false illusions that I can impact someone enough to do things my way as it pertains to what they inhale in their lungs. But I'm OK with that.
I'm pretty sure that I won't be using all of the gear and nic I have stocked up.
I'm not a chemist, nor am I Kurt, but I've never had any nic go 'bad' even stuff that is older than dirt that's sat at room temp. I had some TW parma violet that I bought in 09 (edit: may have been 2010), that was still good last year. I used to it to compare my mixes to replicate it until I figured out the actual vendor of the flavor - for what it's worth. I'm a sample of one.
LOL. I have enough hardware or can easily acquire enough to last a lifetime. Hardware never concerned me. E-liquid has though...for two reasons.
1) I am as finicky as it gets. I've sampled hundreds of flavors but have only two I find as acceptable every day vapes. I have zero confidence I could DIY a flavor I like. I'd go back to smoking before that happened. I know me.
2) I'm not counting on being able to stock enough e-liquid (or its components) to last me the rest of my lifetime...God willing.
I have exactly 3 flavors I like on a pretty consistent basis, parma, TFA Key Lime and Juicy Peach, with the lime being the only one I can vape for months on end and not get sick of it or become taste immune to it. I have a handful of friends who converted to TFA Key Lime based on that recommendation and haven't looked back. Again, small sample, grain of salt,
, 10% of TFA Key Lime and what not.Similar threads
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