Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
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Every single time in my lifetime that we have left something to government bureaucrats to oversee the cost is always in the millions - If not billions of dollars.
We can sit all day long and put it down on paper that this will be the proposed cost, yet the real cost is always so much higher because government can't manage anything with a modicum of common sense.. they find ways to spend.
As far as our government right now, both sides of the aisle are as devoid of common sense as anyone can get - and I agree,I see no change in THAT anytime soon. It also doesn't bode well in my opinion for them to have common sense when it comes to a program such as an educational course.
I would, however, support it.. I see it as a compromise. It's something I feel would be good..
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Lol.. yeah.. that WAS a mistake! Haha.. thanks for fixing!
I look at it much like the election in November: I didn't like either candidate, but one was far preferable to the other. I don't like some of the things in Rep. Hunter's proposed bill, but it's far preferable to leaving vaping under the TCA and current Deeming. So if that's the choice, I'll be happy to see it pass.
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I think we're 100% on the same page.
I just see it handled more in house at a vape shop like a local slaughterhouse does USDA inspections than the government taking the responsibility like issuing a drivers license.
But hell, even then, the gooberment doesn't provide the education.
Tapatyped
Have to make sure the shops hire the best to provide that education.. many of these newer shops don't have lots of knowledge.
But I agree.
Has this been posted yet?
https://www.tattoovape.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/CSREVA115-APR-21-2017-vr..pdf
https://www.tattoovape.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/CSREVA115-APR-21-2017-vr..pdf
That's what we have been talking about: (link to initial conversational post)
Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
Ok, guess I haven't been paying close enough attention.
happens to the best of us doesn't it?You can always add your thoughts on the points the bill makes...
I particularly like this part.
‘‘SEC. 1006. PREEMPTION OF CERTAIN STATE AND LOCAL 13 REQUIREMENTS.
I hope that this pulls the rug out from under these yahoos in California.
‘‘SEC. 1006. PREEMPTION OF CERTAIN STATE AND LOCAL 13 REQUIREMENTS.
I hope that this pulls the rug out from under these yahoos in California.
Yeah, that part I wouldn't count on too much. The federal government can certainly regulate interstate commerce stuff, but states rights are pretty strong and it takes a lot for the feds to dictate what a state can do. Least of all state taxes and registrations. for example, just look at CA emission laws on vehicles independent of federal guidelines.
Hunter's bill has several redeeming features, and while not good news for mech fans, walks a fine line in attempting to assure public safety from the actions of those poorly educated in mech and battery safety. I do not believe any sort of registration and education program would ever be mandated by law just to satisfy a specific vaping crowd when safer options exist.
As nice as the bill is, it has two big issues. The first, convincing a majority to vote in favor of something that the save the children crowd will bombard their representatives about, and second, Hunter's legal problems. It's hard to actively push legislation through and defend yourself from a potential indictment. I think it is more likely the new head of the FDA will be pursuing some executive actions regarding the regulations, and will likely occur before any legislative relief can be passed. Great to have both, if possible.
@beckdg , my question about pythons was more because in that post you were alluded to farmers going all anti big snakes, and I'm still trying to make my fuzzy mind figure out that part. Were they afraid a big snake would strangle a tractor or something?
OK, but just how many pet pythons were going after livestock. I get bringing non-native things in can create problems, but even if someone dumped a python outside a farm, what's the likelihood it would meet another python and have baby pythons to invade and unbalance the ecosystem (you do need two snakes to make lots of little snakes, right?)?
I do get the issues that happen with invasive bugs and damage to crops and native flora, and even invasive, non-native tropical fish people will release into the wild (look at puffer fish moving up along the East coast where they're not exactly supposed to be) but invasive snakes is something I am unfamiliar with.
Besides, "save the cow" doesn't have quite the same emotional impact on the public as "save the children".
@Eskie You said tractors or something. I was just saying Farmers grow livestock. I have no dog in this hunt. In fact I didn't even watch the video, lol.
As I was raised on a farm that was both agricultural and livestock I just thought I would throw that out there.
As I was raised on a farm that was both agricultural and livestock I just thought I would throw that out there.
Oh, no worries. My ex brother in law had a boa constrictor. Nice snake. As snakes go. Got lost once and ended up in the attic. I'll admit feeding time was never my favorite time to visit.
The chances, while small, does happen, and when it does, there comes a new species in a particular area.
Raising wolves in many areas is illegal (farming wins in most areas) but I rescued a wolf injured from the wild, and simply kept him. He was good, but was always wild. Once he had a touch of blood lust, and killed 75 of my chickens in one day.. he never did it again, as he was in trouble for it and was intelligent, but wild is something you cannot remove from an animal.
He did however, mate with a local coyote that was wild.. something I never realised would happen as it's abnormal behavior.. it's things like that, next thing you know there is a litter of wolf/coyote mixes, all wild.
Things happen, species find a way to go on... farmers don't like it.. losing your small livestock to snakes is already a problem.. snakes and foxes are typical around farms.. it's a daily battle to keep as much of your stock as possible when there are wild animals about.
A six foot dangerous snake bringing a breeding population to an area? Yeah.. farmers will usually win out on a case like that..
Have to make sure the shops hire the best to provide that education.. many of these newer shops don't have lots of knowledge.
But I agree.
In my imagination it would take a slow roll leading to a few lawsuits.
Then the shops would slowly start conforming to a decent standard with some better programs setting their own standard.
But I see the end goal as not necessarily a shop employee running the training.
More likely the shop hosting it with an outside consultant doing classes on a set schedule.
Like one class Saturday morning at 8 or 10 AM and one Tuesday night at 6 PM, etc..
Next "semester" starts such and such date if we have enough sign ups, etc.
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Nice rescue of the wolf, and I had zero idea they could breed with a coyote. I also didn't know snakes were problems for farmers with small livestock. That's what happens when you grow up in a city. We just have urban legends about alligators flushed and ending up growing into giant gators in the sewer system.
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